Ferrari F430 Spider

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Oi_Oi_Savaloy

2,313 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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Outstanding work MW. Just brilliant - as with alot of other posters on here - I really appreciate the attention to detail - I don't know how you find the time!

mwstewart

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7,600 posts

188 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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Thanks all!

Zombie said:
I think I regonise the number plate lights... How much did you pay for them? lol

(My Dad had a Maser for a few years so I do know some bits are surprisingly cheap..)
They are fitted to loads of cars in the Fiat group and hence they are really cheap - £7 each! Almost normal biggrin

mwstewart

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7,600 posts

188 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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The final piece of the rear bumper puzzle was the Scuderia specific aluminium pipe that links the exhaust valves on each side of the car. In the photo the pipe is laying on the floor.


Tyre kit
The tyre string kit arrived.


The gel canister is quite a bit heavier than the string kit!


The great thing is I managed to fit the new string kit in the original pouch.


Catalytic converter mounts - completed
The cat mounts are finished and I'm really happy with them. I've used stainless U clamps to secure the cats to rear silencer and these also double up as the exhaust side bracket of the cat mounts. Tow functions in one component: Colin Chapman would be pleased!

The right hand bank is mounted at an angle due to the F1 actuator and heat shield.


A few shots of the mounts in situ.





As the cats are mounted in place I could fit the airbox and header tank.

TartanPaint

2,988 posts

139 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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This thread is ridiculous. I'm developing a bit of a man-crush!

mwstewart

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7,600 posts

188 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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I've now finished the exhaust mounting system. The final piece of fabrication was the supporting frame for the silencer.


Here's the completed system mounted. Really pleased with it.


I shot a quick video to show the system in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tggbgqs1xg

To recap, here's the original mounting system:


As well as drastically improving on the performance of the original system I managed to save 1.336kg.




Weight saving
Original Part Fitted Quantity Original Part (kg) Replacement Part (kg) Sprung Saving (kg) Unsprung Saving (kg) Replacement Part
Brake servo & master cylinder - non-CCM 1 3.964 2.435 1.529 - CCM
Brake disc, front - non-CCM 2 8.3 6.77 - 3.06 CCM - 380mm (alloy bell)
Brake disc, rear - non-CCM 2 8.3 4.61 - 7.38 CCM (alloy bell)
Brake caliper & pads, front - non-CCM 2 4.9 5.94 - -2.08 CCM - 380mm
Brake caliper & pads, rear - non-CCM 2 4.9 4.72 - 0.36 CCM
Door handles, exterior 2 0.065 - 0.02 0.09 Carbon
PAS reservoir cap 1 0 0.065 -0.065 - Alloy cover
Fuel Flap 1 0.143 0.128 0.015 - Carbon
Seats - standard, electric, heated 2 28.2 17.9 20.6 - 16M/Scuderia carbon
Seats - mounting bolts and washers - M10 8 0.028 0.017 0.088 - 16M/Scuderia - M8
Strut & spring, front 2 4.74 3.8 - 1.88 16M/Scuderia Mk2
Strut & spring, rear 2 5.37 4.59 - 1.56 16M/Scuderia Mk2
Anti roll bar, front (19mm) 1 3.04 2.73 0.21 0.1 16M/Scuderia
Side skirts - standard 2 4.62 2.9 3.44 - 16/Scuderia carbon
Kick plates - standard 2 0.841 0.163 1.356 - 16M/Scuderia (carbon)
Wheels, front - standard 2 12.9 10.5 - 4.8 16M - optional 5 spoke
Tyres, 225/35/19 Pirelli P Zero Rosso (new) 2 10.7 10.23 - 0.94 235/35/19 MPSS (new)
Wheels, rear - standard 2 13.7 12.3 - 2.8 16M - optional 5 spoke
Tyres, 285/35/19 Pirelli P Zero Rosso (new) 2 13.61 13.92 - -0.62 285/35/19 MPSS (new)
Wheel bolts - standard 20 0.128 0.065 - 1.26 Titanium
Engine lid grilles - standard 2 0.677 0.219 0.916 - 16M (mesh)
Engine lid grille brackets 2 0.354 0.216 0.276 - Modified to 16M spec
Engine lid grille screws - M6x20 14 0.007 0.002 0.07 - M5x8
16M badges, side 2 0 0.073 -0.146 - -
Anti roll bar, rear - 20mm 1 3.008 1.839 0.858 0.311 16M specific (22mm hollow)
Air inlet ducts/resonators - Mk2 2 1.131 1.225 -0.188 - Mk1 (single piece)
Plenum chamber 1 5.063 3.19 1.873 - Challenge/16M/Scuderia (carbon)
Plenum chamber bolts 1 0.176 0.1 0.076 - Titanium
Cross member exhaust modifications 1 0 0.65 -0.65 - Modified to 16M/Scuderia spec
Challenge grille air deflectors 1 0.329 0 0.329 - Removed - Not 16M/Scuderia spec
Coil/plug water guards 2 0 0.276 -0.552 - Fitted to some 08> Spiders
Luggage compartment trim, base - Scuderia 1 1.235 0.821 0.414 - MY08 carpet
Luggage compartment trim, bulkhead - Scuderia 1 2.251 1.83 0.419 - Retrimmed F430 Challenge
Luggage compartment trim, LH - Scuderia 1 0.855 0.572 0.283 - MY08 carpet
Luggage compartment trim, RH - Scuderia 1 1.041 0.702 0.339 - MY08 carpet
Luggage compartment trim, front - Scuderia 1 0.156 0.127 0.029 - MY08 carpet
CD changer 1 1.5 0 1.5 - Removed
Exhaust heat shields, wheelhouse 2 0.401 0.151 0.499 - Bespoke carbon version
Exhaust heat shields, wheelhouse - fastening set 2 0.036 0.027 0.018 - 4mm shorter screws
Tool case (leather) 1 0.818 0.375 0.443 - 16M (canvas)
Battery - FIAMM VRLA760 1 20.65 18.75 1.9 - Optima 'Red Top' 34R
Exhaust valve hoses 2 0.078 0.003 0.15 - Solenoids unused - blanking caps fitted
Bumper, F430 rear fastening and spacer set 1 0.76 0 0.76 - Removed - Not 16M/Scuderia spec
Bumper, rear - challenge grille, PDC 1 13 9 4 - 16M/Scuderia - PDC added
16M badge, rear 1 0 0.122 -0.122 - Added
Exhaust tailpipes and fastenings 2 6.5 0.423 12.314 - 16M/Scuderia - optional titanium
Exhaust silencer 1 13.4 9.65 3.75 - F430 Challenge - modified
Header tank 1 0.721 0.872 -0.151 - 16M/Scuderia (carbon) trim added
Exhaust mountings and fastening set 1 4.028 2.692 1.336 - Bespoke
Tyre repair kit (gel), manual, and packing foam 1 0.877 0.189 0.688 - Replaced with Tyre String kit


Sprung weight saved: 59.13 kg
Unsprung weight saved: 23.29 kg
Total weight saved: 82.43 kg

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

176 months

Saturday 9th July 2016
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You have managed to save more than I weigh out of the car.
Impressive stuff. smile

Pommygranite

14,252 posts

216 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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I'm keen to know OP if you yourself has tried to save weight?

I mean 12kgs off is 15% of the total so far laugh

mwstewart

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7,600 posts

188 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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UI like food too much for any of that dieting nonsense biggrin

AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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I love all the details OP, but when can we have some overall pics of the car please? tongue out

mwstewart

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7,600 posts

188 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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AyBee said:
I love all the details OP, but when can we have some overall pics of the car please? tongue out
Soon. I'm still waiting for the carbon headlight pieces from Parts3000; I can't put the car together until I have them because the front bumper must be off to mount the headlights.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Pommygranite said:
I'm keen to know OP if you yourself has tried to save weight?

I mean 12kgs off is 15% of the total so far laugh
In spite of the engineering brilliance of this thread - this my solution - I figure it will cost a bit less too laugh

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Here's the completed system mounted. Really pleased with it.



The rubber mount itself is a thing of beauty.

No really!


mwstewart

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7,600 posts

188 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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The throttle bodies on this car were one of the things that bugged me whenever I looked in the engine bay. They had oxidation spots on the top of them which had become engrained with dirt, so now seemed like a good time to address that.

Paint is always my last resort for finishing aluminium parts so if any other surface restoration is available I will take that option first. I just think bare aluminium is nice although I do appreciate there are some good paints on the market now.


Armed with a beer, some T Cut, a Dremel, and an assortment of fittings including some that weren't intended for polishing I managed to clean up the TBs and polish a dull shine; I didn't want a full shine as I don't think that would suit the car.


themanwithnoname

1,634 posts

213 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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These look great, would you consider a light lacquer coat to keep them looking fresh?


mwstewart

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7,600 posts

188 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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themanwithnoname said:
These look great, would you consider a light lacquer coat to keep them looking fresh?
Thanks. Lacquer tends to lift off aluminium over time so I prefer a coat of dry silicone spray.

thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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You could get them sand blasted with a very fine medium, that would give them a nice finish. Are you sure they are aluminium, rather than alloy?

mwstewart

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7,600 posts

188 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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thebraketester said:
You could get them sand blasted with a very fine medium, that would give them a nice finish. Are you sure they are aluminium, rather than alloy?
Vapour blasting would be my usual approach but I wanted a slight shine and didn't want to strip a pair of functioning DBW bodies.

Aluminium/alloy in this case not being specific - basically not ferrous.

TartanPaint

2,988 posts

139 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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ACF50?

mwstewart

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7,600 posts

188 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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TartanPaint said:
ACF50?
Looks good! I'd not seen that before.

TartanPaint

2,988 posts

139 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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mwstewart said:
TartanPaint said:
ACF50?
Looks good! I'd not seen that before.
I don't know a biker who doesn't douse their block in it once a year. It's good stuff.