Toyota Celica 190
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thatguy11 said:
The layout of the interior is nice enough but the materials are typical period Japanese, i.e. mostly rock hard plastics. And the dials are solid orange, pretty dated.
Seriously, have you actually touched the interior? Its not rock hard at all. You'll find harder plastic in an Audi. It's more like soft tissue paper because Toyota tried to save as much weight as possible. 190 is over 1200kg, 140 is about 1150kg.The stereo is dated. With its large buttons it resembles a Fisher Price toy.
PATTERNPART said:
Does anyone know if the standard T-Sport wheels are a a bit weak? The eight spoke 17" ones.
OEMs are weak and known to buckle like 50 pence piece.Edited by PATTERNPART on Tuesday 29th July 16:51
Are you a Celica Club member?
Vocal Minority said:
I purchased a 140 back in February. A nice example with only 55,000 on. Wanted a 190 but couldn't find a reasonable one in the time frame (car had been written off - non fault of course - and needed wheels). Just missed out on a decent looking one.
Bit of a pity, and this thread is just making me sad!
Upgrade to a 190! Bit of a pity, and this thread is just making me sad!
Selling a 140 with only 55,000 miles on the clock will pretty much cover the funds for a good 190PATTERNPART said:
entropy said:
Are you a Celica Club member?
2 of mine have flat areas on them from hitting pot holes too. Doesn't appear to affect handling but do keep meaning to replace them all.
Bad news….I hit a deer 
A rite of passage for any driver I guess but was still pretty scary. I was out on an evening blast (hence the impressive fly count), on a bit of arrow straight road lined with bushes on both sides when the deer shot across my path. I barely saw it happen, it wasn't a “deer in the headlights” freeze moment; it sprinted across the road in front of me, and ALMOST made past. There was nothing I could do, literally one second between the deer emerging from the bushes and me hitting it. It was so close to making it past too, and I just caught it on the arse.
For hitting a deer, I look to have gotten off really lightly and count myself lucky! The only damage is a dented wing, broken headlight, some marks on the bumper and a detached engine undertray. Amazingly, the headlight still works; it’s just the mounting brackets that have broken. Tough cars, these! Still, although it was clearly the deer’s fault I don’t think he had insurance (plus he’s dead now) so it looks like I’ll be fronting the bill…
A couple of photos of the injury:
A rite of passage for any driver I guess but was still pretty scary. I was out on an evening blast (hence the impressive fly count), on a bit of arrow straight road lined with bushes on both sides when the deer shot across my path. I barely saw it happen, it wasn't a “deer in the headlights” freeze moment; it sprinted across the road in front of me, and ALMOST made past. There was nothing I could do, literally one second between the deer emerging from the bushes and me hitting it. It was so close to making it past too, and I just caught it on the arse.For hitting a deer, I look to have gotten off really lightly and count myself lucky! The only damage is a dented wing, broken headlight, some marks on the bumper and a detached engine undertray. Amazingly, the headlight still works; it’s just the mounting brackets that have broken. Tough cars, these! Still, although it was clearly the deer’s fault I don’t think he had insurance (plus he’s dead now) so it looks like I’ll be fronting the bill…
A couple of photos of the injury:
pimpchez said:
Had the corolla t sport in uni a few years ago .One think you must do is get a k&n typhoon induction kit , o my the noise .
You literally make people on the pavement crap themselves 1st-2nd gear obviously .
They probably didn't. You literally make people on the pavement crap themselves 1st-2nd gear obviously .
I quite like these. A friend of mine had one for a while. His had full leather and I remember the seats being quite comfortable and very supportive. The ride wasn't too bad either
190s/ VVTLIs are massively underrated cars imho. I bought a Jap import SSII 'Superstrut' model after the engine went in my 140 Celica due to the well-documented 'early 1ZZ engines were s
t' issue.
The car was on Tein coilovers, had Work split-rims and the factory 'Mechanical Sports' bodywork bits. Was utterly reliable, not a single thing even hiccuped in 2 years of ownership, and drove like a dream. Easily stayed with my friends DC2 Integra on every drive too. :-) I'd have another 190 in a heartbeat, particularly given how cheap they are these days.
t' issue. The car was on Tein coilovers, had Work split-rims and the factory 'Mechanical Sports' bodywork bits. Was utterly reliable, not a single thing even hiccuped in 2 years of ownership, and drove like a dream. Easily stayed with my friends DC2 Integra on every drive too. :-) I'd have another 190 in a heartbeat, particularly given how cheap they are these days.
would NOT recommend hitting a deer, bloody scary stuff. It's a miracle my driver's seat isn't needing replaced too....Managed to get my new wing and headlight fitted (after much swearing), but as you can see the new wing’s seen better days and will need painting. I’ve also been wanting my front bumper refurbished for a while now, as the lacquer has started peeling (not to mention some marks caused by the deer), so I might as well get it done alongside the wing.
Once it's back from its makeover I'll be subjecting it to a very thorough cleaning, inside and out. I'm looking forward to seeing it all showroom fresh!
Once it's back from its makeover I'll be subjecting it to a very thorough cleaning, inside and out. I'm looking forward to seeing it all showroom fresh!
:UPDATE TIME:
The car has had its partial front end respray and is looking fantastic. It's always nice after an accident/mishap to have your car back in even better condition than it was before, rather than just back to how it was. Somehow makes it seem like a blessing in disguise. I don't have any close-ups of the new paintwork yet but will in due course.
I was holding off on going on any drives until the car was back to its former shiny self. After picking it up from the paint shop I immediately headed to a PH favourite; the B863 that runs around Loch Leven, better known on here as the "Kinlochring" or "Scotsburgring". I've driven this a few times now and it never, ever disappoints
I've also made a small but important addition to the car:
A few more pics from another post paint refresh drive, this time in the Borders (actually on the same road I hit the deer on, tempting fate perhaps?):
Next up for the Celica: a brake upgrade. I bought MTEC grooved and drilled discs and EBC pads for all four corners a while back (I only needed rear pads at the time but buying the full set was such good value I bought the lot), and have been waiting until my current stoppers have run their course before fitting. The current discs have almost 30,000 miles on them so they're probably not long for this world....
The car has had its partial front end respray and is looking fantastic. It's always nice after an accident/mishap to have your car back in even better condition than it was before, rather than just back to how it was. Somehow makes it seem like a blessing in disguise. I don't have any close-ups of the new paintwork yet but will in due course.
I was holding off on going on any drives until the car was back to its former shiny self. After picking it up from the paint shop I immediately headed to a PH favourite; the B863 that runs around Loch Leven, better known on here as the "Kinlochring" or "Scotsburgring". I've driven this a few times now and it never, ever disappoints
I've also made a small but important addition to the car:
A few more pics from another post paint refresh drive, this time in the Borders (actually on the same road I hit the deer on, tempting fate perhaps?):
Next up for the Celica: a brake upgrade. I bought MTEC grooved and drilled discs and EBC pads for all four corners a while back (I only needed rear pads at the time but buying the full set was such good value I bought the lot), and have been waiting until my current stoppers have run their course before fitting. The current discs have almost 30,000 miles on them so they're probably not long for this world....
Lovely looking car, best colour definitely. Always had a soft spot for these, tempted to pick one up at some point. Getting on a bit now though so worried about ropey ones.
Luckly living in central Edinburgh! Beautiful place and some beautiful roads up there. Took my s2k all over Scotland the other week, great fun!
Luckly living in central Edinburgh! Beautiful place and some beautiful roads up there. Took my s2k all over Scotland the other week, great fun!
Managed to get my new brake discs fitted over the weekend, or at least the fronts. The current rears still have plenty of life left in them but the fronts were definitely for the bin, so it was time to break out the spanners. I went with MTEC's drilled and grooved numbers; the difference in performance over OEM brakes is probably negligible but they look great and were good value since I bought all four discs and pads at once I've changed pads before myself but never discs, don't know why because it's surprisingly straightforward.
I made use of my parents' garage since I don't have one (on-street parking in the centre of Edinburgh).
Getting the caliper apart and removed was easy but getting the old disc off however...
So I asked two friends to help me persuade the disc off
EVENTUALLY it was free. Note the huge amount of brake dust/rust flakes I shook loose...they do say that most of the time spent working on slightly older cars can be spent freeing up rusted parts. They're not lying.
New one on!
The other side was much easier, partly because I was now more familiar with what I was doing but mostly because the disc came off without me having to relentlessly bash it with a hammer.
Finished! They look pretty damn good sitting behind the wheels I think. I can't honestly say I fully enjoy working on cars but I'm enjoying it more as I get better at it.
I've changed pads before myself but never discs, don't know why because it's surprisingly straightforward.I made use of my parents' garage since I don't have one (on-street parking in the centre of Edinburgh).
Getting the caliper apart and removed was easy but getting the old disc off however...
So I asked two friends to help me persuade the disc off
EVENTUALLY it was free. Note the huge amount of brake dust/rust flakes I shook loose...they do say that most of the time spent working on slightly older cars can be spent freeing up rusted parts. They're not lying.
New one on!
The other side was much easier, partly because I was now more familiar with what I was doing but mostly because the disc came off without me having to relentlessly bash it with a hammer.
Finished! They look pretty damn good sitting behind the wheels I think. I can't honestly say I fully enjoy working on cars but I'm enjoying it more as I get better at it.
Edited by thatguy11 on Monday 22 September 10:53
I need to sort the brakes on my 190 at some point. They have plenty of life left but they have gone rusty like yours. More of a cosmetic upgrade as they look crap through the spokes. Although I'm hoping to do a couple of trackdays next year and don't fancy it on the old brakes so I'm justifying it that way 
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.Jimmm said:
I need to sort the brakes on my 190 at some point. They have plenty of life left but they have gone rusty like yours. More of a cosmetic upgrade as they look crap through the spokes. Although I'm hoping to do a couple of trackdays next year and don't fancy it on the old brakes so I'm justifying it that way .
I know what you mean, the rear discs are terrible for it. There's a huge exposed area of the hub that goes rusty over time and it's so visible. I had some silver Hammerite left over from painting my calipers so I wire brushed and painted the rusted hub area. Looks so much better.Gassing Station | Readers' Cars | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff