Dele's Audi S6 5.2 V10 - The Road to Ruin?
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Well, seeing as Pistonheads have posted this, I suppose it would be rude of me not to update this thread...
We are now a whopping 1850 miles into ownership, considering I bought this in July its not exactly used much! Most of that being motorway use which has returned me on average 20mpg dead on.
So Dele, what's broken this time?
Well you aren't going to believe this, but nothing, not only that - its actually started to fix itself
That's right, the mysterious gearbox issues have disappeared and been fine for an entire month *touches wood*
No major costs yet but two new front tyres are probably on the cards for November
We are now a whopping 1850 miles into ownership, considering I bought this in July its not exactly used much! Most of that being motorway use which has returned me on average 20mpg dead on.
So Dele, what's broken this time?
Well you aren't going to believe this, but nothing, not only that - its actually started to fix itself
That's right, the mysterious gearbox issues have disappeared and been fine for an entire month *touches wood*
No major costs yet but two new front tyres are probably on the cards for November
Awesome plate.
I've been looking into get another C6 4.2 V8 again but now considering one of these.
I've always fancied a V10 as i've had loads of V8's but unsure if this one may be one to avoid. The C6 A6 is one of my favourite family cars as it does everything so well but feel the V10 may be a bit of a let down??
Suppose I will have to find one to have a test drive to decide.
Love the facelift rear lights too.
I've been looking into get another C6 4.2 V8 again but now considering one of these.
I've always fancied a V10 as i've had loads of V8's but unsure if this one may be one to avoid. The C6 A6 is one of my favourite family cars as it does everything so well but feel the V10 may be a bit of a let down??
Suppose I will have to find one to have a test drive to decide.
Love the facelift rear lights too.
TheLordJohn said:
Looks good.
Had one Audi - an Allroad 2.7T. It was an absolutely dreadful, woeful, hateful piece of s
t and I'll never own another Audi while there's a hole in my arse.
Best of luck with yours, though
Sorry to hijack the thread, lovely S6 mate, but I have a 2.7T Allroad so I gotta ask, why did you hate it so much!?Had one Audi - an Allroad 2.7T. It was an absolutely dreadful, woeful, hateful piece of s
t and I'll never own another Audi while there's a hole in my arse.Best of luck with yours, though
Resolutionary said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, lovely S6 mate, but I have a 2.7T Allroad so I gotta ask, why did you hate it so much!?
Was far too slow for MPG (could never get over 28), handled pretty poorly, quite a lot went wrong (despite having excellent SH), ate CV joints like they were going out of fashion. Can't think of everything, but it wasn't enjoyable at all and I'll never own another.TheLordJohn said:
Was far too slow for MPG (could never get over 28), handled pretty poorly, quite a lot went wrong (despite having excellent SH), ate CV joints like they were going out of fashion. Can't think of everything, but it wasn't enjoyable at all and I'll never own another.
Man buys car with known poor mpg performance then blames car for delivering poor mpg.By all accounts 28mpg is pretty remarkable in a 2.7t Allroad so you should have been pleased
barryrs said:
Man buys car with known poor mpg performance then blames car for delivering poor mpg.
By all accounts 28mpg is pretty remarkable in a 2.7t Allroad so you should have been pleased
I couldn't give a toss about MPG, I ran a V12 80's Jaguar as my only car for well over a year. It's all relative. By all accounts 28mpg is pretty remarkable in a 2.7t Allroad so you should have been pleased
But sitting at 65 on cruise control should be able to break 30.
My M3 used to get 32 sat at a genuine 80 on cruise.
It was pig slow, and not in any way, shape or form what I expected an Audi to be when I bought it.
This thread reinforces my experience with Audi, I had a couple of 1.8E 80s which were lovely cars then moved on to an A4, which was crap, VAG customer service was notably poor. Later on I had an A6 which was like the A4 - overgeared and gutless but was well built and reliable.
Friends and family have owned loads of Audis and they have all had a sting in the tail reliability wise.
Failures of cheap parts made expensive by being impossible to access, numbers of ridiculously expensive service parts that can't be had aftermarket, brake discs and lambda sensors for example. Or faults that don't belong on a premium car - drowned ECUs, worn timing chains necessitating crankshaft replacement where any sensible engineer would have specced a renewable sprocket, clogged intake manifolds etc etc.
I can carry out any repair myself but I am not brave enough to buy an out of warranty Audi.
Friends and family have owned loads of Audis and they have all had a sting in the tail reliability wise.
Failures of cheap parts made expensive by being impossible to access, numbers of ridiculously expensive service parts that can't be had aftermarket, brake discs and lambda sensors for example. Or faults that don't belong on a premium car - drowned ECUs, worn timing chains necessitating crankshaft replacement where any sensible engineer would have specced a renewable sprocket, clogged intake manifolds etc etc.
I can carry out any repair myself but I am not brave enough to buy an out of warranty Audi.
kev b said:
This thread reinforces my experience with Audi, I had a couple of 1.8E 80s which were lovely cars then moved on to an A4, which was crap, VAG customer service was notably poor. Later on I had an A6 which was like the A4 - overgeared and gutless but was well built and reliable.
Friends and family have owned loads of Audis and they have all had a sting in the tail reliability wise.
Failures of cheap parts made expensive by being impossible to access, numbers of ridiculously expensive service parts that can't be had aftermarket, brake discs and lambda sensors for example. Or faults that don't belong on a premium car - drowned ECUs, worn timing chains necessitating crankshaft replacement where any sensible engineer would have specced a renewable sprocket, clogged intake manifolds etc etc.
I can carry out any repair myself but I am not brave enough to buy an out of warranty Audi.
Not just me, then!?Friends and family have owned loads of Audis and they have all had a sting in the tail reliability wise.
Failures of cheap parts made expensive by being impossible to access, numbers of ridiculously expensive service parts that can't be had aftermarket, brake discs and lambda sensors for example. Or faults that don't belong on a premium car - drowned ECUs, worn timing chains necessitating crankshaft replacement where any sensible engineer would have specced a renewable sprocket, clogged intake manifolds etc etc.
I can carry out any repair myself but I am not brave enough to buy an out of warranty Audi.
Mine was a bag of s
te and I wouldn't thank you for another.
TheLordJohn said:
Was far too slow for MPG (could never get over 28), handled pretty poorly, quite a lot went wrong (despite having excellent SH), ate CV joints like they were going out of fashion. Can't think of everything, but it wasn't enjoyable at all and I'll never own another.
I average 21.4 but happily achieve 30-32 with cruise control at 80mph. I'll agree with the handling aspect - the air suspension does leave it a little numb and wallowy, but in all honesty I've had no issues at all in the last 8 months of ownership and everything about the car impresses passengers which is epic for a 14 year old motor.I previously owned a 1.8T'd A4 Avant, which was also largely trouble free apart from issues related to aftermarket parts. Really struggling to understand all this talk of reliability issues with Audi; maybe there are a lot of badly maintained lemons on the market?
Aaaaaaand she's gone!
The last three weeks or so I started to ask myself if there was any point in really having the Audi as it really was being neglected, I think for February I managed to drive it twice for a whopping 30-40 miles.
I'm left feeling confused about the Audi, its too expensive to run as a daily car but too dull and practical to be a weekend toy, I wouldn't say I hated my time with it but it wasn't special enough for me to think I'd miss it when leaving it with the new owner.
I can fully understand now why these are so rare, because they are good at everything, but great at nothing?
Oh well.....
The last three weeks or so I started to ask myself if there was any point in really having the Audi as it really was being neglected, I think for February I managed to drive it twice for a whopping 30-40 miles.
I'm left feeling confused about the Audi, its too expensive to run as a daily car but too dull and practical to be a weekend toy, I wouldn't say I hated my time with it but it wasn't special enough for me to think I'd miss it when leaving it with the new owner.
I can fully understand now why these are so rare, because they are good at everything, but great at nothing?
Oh well.....
I can see where you are coming from.
I don't feel like mine is all that "special" and I regularly find myself looking through the classifieds but short of stumping up for a C63 I'm at a loss as to what I would change it for that's that much better?
I've driven a 997 911 and a Maserati 4200 and they were great to drive but not very special inside and I would find them tiresome everyday and I like the space.
3 1/2 years into ownership now and maybe I'm getting old
I don't feel like mine is all that "special" and I regularly find myself looking through the classifieds but short of stumping up for a C63 I'm at a loss as to what I would change it for that's that much better?
I've driven a 997 911 and a Maserati 4200 and they were great to drive but not very special inside and I would find them tiresome everyday and I like the space.
3 1/2 years into ownership now and maybe I'm getting old
Least you've given it a good shot for 3 and a half years.
Just couldn't get on with mine at all.
It was always fked, as it replaced my favourite car I've ever owned (M3 Evo).
But even still, didn't give the best account of itself.
Yours will be in a different league to what my old Allroad was, mind.
Just couldn't get on with mine at all.
It was always f
ked, as it replaced my favourite car I've ever owned (M3 Evo).But even still, didn't give the best account of itself.
Yours will be in a different league to what my old Allroad was, mind.
Thread revival time..
Very interesting thread as I have been searching the classifieds & the S6 really appeals. My original choice of an E60 M5 has been shaken after having read loads on its potential pitfalls, Vanos, gearbox (red cog of death) etc.. It seems no matter the choice of car, there are scare stories & lists of issues to go with the positives.. The question is, should I heed other people's hard earned experiences...or hope I'm one of the few lucky ones who seem to have no problems??
It's a V10..surely worth the risk?
Very interesting thread as I have been searching the classifieds & the S6 really appeals. My original choice of an E60 M5 has been shaken after having read loads on its potential pitfalls, Vanos, gearbox (red cog of death) etc.. It seems no matter the choice of car, there are scare stories & lists of issues to go with the positives.. The question is, should I heed other people's hard earned experiences...or hope I'm one of the few lucky ones who seem to have no problems??
It's a V10..surely worth the risk?
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Waynester said:
Thread revival time..
Very interesting thread as I have been searching the classifieds & the S6 really appeals. My original choice of an E60 M5 has been shaken after having read loads on its potential pitfalls, Vanos, gearbox (red cog of death) etc.. It seems no matter the choice of car, there are scare stories & lists of issues to go with the positives.. The question is, should I heed other people's hard earned experiences...or hope I'm one of the few lucky ones who seem to have no problems??
It's a V10..surely worth the risk?
PM MuZiZzle on here, he's a good mate of mine and has an E61 M5 V10. I wouldn't let the horror stories put you off. His hasn't had a clutch yet and it's at 70k so it'll likely need one in the none to distant future, bar that it's been absolutely brilliant. It gets driven hard, and it's only required normal servicing. We've driven it to the ring and back, it's a hell of a machine. Real Jekyll and Hyde affair, perfect wafter, but it turns into a missile in MDM mode.Very interesting thread as I have been searching the classifieds & the S6 really appeals. My original choice of an E60 M5 has been shaken after having read loads on its potential pitfalls, Vanos, gearbox (red cog of death) etc.. It seems no matter the choice of car, there are scare stories & lists of issues to go with the positives.. The question is, should I heed other people's hard earned experiences...or hope I'm one of the few lucky ones who seem to have no problems??
It's a V10..surely worth the risk?
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