Mazda rx8 with ls1 5.7 v8 conversion

Mazda rx8 with ls1 5.7 v8 conversion

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LOW4LYFE

159 posts

121 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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All that hard work ruined by Rotas laugh Buy some proper wheels before those have a catastrophic structural failure and kill you and your car.

S90ttb

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30 posts

116 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Thank you all for your comments and ok i spelt bought wrong !!!!! lession lerned but i thought this site was about cars not spelling ( joke )
tremaine thats a very nice rx8 and owenk i will let you know the cost at the end
most parts were bought through dyno torque and drift works

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Excellent... ignore the doubters, a grunty V8 makes any car better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ZGEurCARQ

KMud

2,924 posts

156 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Harji said:
At the expense of handling, but then each to their own. IMO as an RX-8 owner, nothing about the car lends itself to being a muscle V8 type, everything is lightweight to touch and hold and feel, including the steering wheel, body panels, interior. I think it's a shame not putting a rotary engine back in it as it is a virtually a bespoke car designed from the ground up.

Nothing against your work or choice, I just think that if people look at how the RX-8 was designed they may think twice and appreciate the thought and build behind it.
Do you know the weight difference between the rotary and an LS1? Look it up, you may be surprised. The added weight appears not that different to bolting on a supercharger...

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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I bet the V8 is more fuel economical than the wankel engine it replaces biggrin

GregK2

1,654 posts

146 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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LOW4LYFE said:
All that hard work ruined by Rotas laugh Buy some proper wheels before those have a catastrophic structural failure and kill you and your car.
rolleyes

zippyprorider

732 posts

206 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Harji said:
At the expense of handling, but then each to their own. IMO as an RX-8 owner, nothing about the car lends itself to being a muscle V8 type, everything is lightweight to touch and hold and feel, including the steering wheel, body panels, interior. I think it's a shame not putting a rotary engine back in it as it is a virtually a bespoke car designed from the ground up.

Nothing against your work or choice, I just think that if people look at how the RX-8 was designed they may think twice and appreciate the thought and build behind it.
Hmmm rx8 lightweight? 1500 kg! Lol

Ls1 sounds epic

zeppelin101

724 posts

192 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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If anything, an LS is more in keeping with the rotary ethos in terms of being light and small then almost any other piston engine you can think of.

They aren't that big and now they're all alloy, they're pretty light. Plus they are completely unstressed from the factory and make 120hp more than an RX-8 engine in stock 5.7 flavour, never mind any of the others...

Win-win I reckons.

Fastdruid

8,631 posts

152 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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zippyprorider said:
Harji said:
At the expense of handling, but then each to their own. IMO as an RX-8 owner, nothing about the car lends itself to being a muscle V8 type, everything is lightweight to touch and hold and feel, including the steering wheel, body panels, interior. I think it's a shame not putting a rotary engine back in it as it is a virtually a bespoke car designed from the ground up.

Nothing against your work or choice, I just think that if people look at how the RX-8 was designed they may think twice and appreciate the thought and build behind it.
Hmmm rx8 lightweight? 1500 kg! Lol

Ls1 sounds epic
Are you carrying round an extra 200Kg? The RX-8 isn't 1500kg.

Harji

2,198 posts

161 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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KMud said:
Harji said:
At the expense of handling, but then each to their own. IMO as an RX-8 owner, nothing about the car lends itself to being a muscle V8 type, everything is lightweight to touch and hold and feel, including the steering wheel, body panels, interior. I think it's a shame not putting a rotary engine back in it as it is a virtually a bespoke car designed from the ground up.

Nothing against your work or choice, I just think that if people look at how the RX-8 was designed they may think twice and appreciate the thought and build behind it.
Do you know the weight difference between the rotary and an LS1? Look it up, you may be surprised. The added weight appears not that different to bolting on a supercharger...
And the positioning of the engine, it's not a front mid-engined car with the engine sitting low down any more. Horses for courses, but the RX-8 handling is definitely compromised, and it's handling blows some far more expensive and powerful cars away (and yes, I have driven them)


skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Fastdruid said:
zippyprorider said:
Harji said:
At the expense of handling, but then each to their own. IMO as an RX-8 owner, nothing about the car lends itself to being a muscle V8 type, everything is lightweight to touch and hold and feel, including the steering wheel, body panels, interior. I think it's a shame not putting a rotary engine back in it as it is a virtually a bespoke car designed from the ground up.

Nothing against your work or choice, I just think that if people look at how the RX-8 was designed they may think twice and appreciate the thought and build behind it.
Hmmm rx8 lightweight? 1500 kg! Lol

Ls1 sounds epic
Are you carrying round an extra 200Kg? The RX-8 isn't 1500kg.
Google reveals

Weight Claimed: 1350kg / 2976lb (DIN) 1435kg (UE)
Weight (EU): 1475kg / 3252lb (heaviest verified in running order)

Fastdruid

8,631 posts

152 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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KMud said:
Harji said:
At the expense of handling, but then each to their own. IMO as an RX-8 owner, nothing about the car lends itself to being a muscle V8 type, everything is lightweight to touch and hold and feel, including the steering wheel, body panels, interior. I think it's a shame not putting a rotary engine back in it as it is a virtually a bespoke car designed from the ground up.

Nothing against your work or choice, I just think that if people look at how the RX-8 was designed they may think twice and appreciate the thought and build behind it.
Do you know the weight difference between the rotary and an LS1? Look it up, you may be surprised. The added weight appears not that different to bolting on a supercharger...
Wow that is one hell of a supercharger! About 103kg difference.

Fully dressed weights (less oil):
Source: LS1 225Kg - http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=129304
Source: RX-8 122Kg - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_wankel_engine

Fastdruid

8,631 posts

152 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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skyrover said:
Fastdruid said:
zippyprorider said:
Harji said:
At the expense of handling, but then each to their own. IMO as an RX-8 owner, nothing about the car lends itself to being a muscle V8 type, everything is lightweight to touch and hold and feel, including the steering wheel, body panels, interior. I think it's a shame not putting a rotary engine back in it as it is a virtually a bespoke car designed from the ground up.

Nothing against your work or choice, I just think that if people look at how the RX-8 was designed they may think twice and appreciate the thought and build behind it.
Hmmm rx8 lightweight? 1500 kg! Lol

Ls1 sounds epic
Are you carrying round an extra 200Kg? The RX-8 isn't 1500kg.
Google reveals

Weight Claimed: 1350kg / 2976lb (DIN) 1435kg (UE)
Weight (EU): 1475kg / 3252lb (heaviest verified in running order)
The very heaviest version (probably an auto with a full tank of fuel and driver) and it's still not 1500Kg!

aka_kerrly

12,417 posts

210 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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S90ttb said:
Hello ! I am new to piston heads but I wanted to share this conversion ,
It goes in to a friends garage ( Dyno torque in Birmingham) on Monday to start the conversion I am really excited I will post pictures and updates as we go through
Ah Dyno Torque, home of the LS conversion, at least we know with this V8 RX8 conversion should actually happen and not be like so many of the other 1.8T/1JZE type conversions that only ever get as far as a bare engine just about hanging in the car with no wiring an then no updated.

Crack on!!

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Fastdruid said:
skyrover said:
Fastdruid said:
zippyprorider said:
Harji said:
At the expense of handling, but then each to their own. IMO as an RX-8 owner, nothing about the car lends itself to being a muscle V8 type, everything is lightweight to touch and hold and feel, including the steering wheel, body panels, interior. I think it's a shame not putting a rotary engine back in it as it is a virtually a bespoke car designed from the ground up.

Nothing against your work or choice, I just think that if people look at how the RX-8 was designed they may think twice and appreciate the thought and build behind it.
Hmmm rx8 lightweight? 1500 kg! Lol

Ls1 sounds epic
Are you carrying round an extra 200Kg? The RX-8 isn't 1500kg.
Google reveals

Weight Claimed: 1350kg / 2976lb (DIN) 1435kg (UE)
Weight (EU): 1475kg / 3252lb (heaviest verified in running order)
The very heaviest version (probably an auto with a full tank of fuel and driver) and it's still not 1500Kg!
Wiki claims:

1,373 kg for the manual and 1,384 kg for the Auto.

Your right it's not 1500kg, but it's not far off, especially with driver

Fastdruid

8,631 posts

152 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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skyrover said:
Fastdruid said:
skyrover said:
Fastdruid said:
zippyprorider said:
Harji said:
At the expense of handling, but then each to their own. IMO as an RX-8 owner, nothing about the car lends itself to being a muscle V8 type, everything is lightweight to touch and hold and feel, including the steering wheel, body panels, interior. I think it's a shame not putting a rotary engine back in it as it is a virtually a bespoke car designed from the ground up.

Nothing against your work or choice, I just think that if people look at how the RX-8 was designed they may think twice and appreciate the thought and build behind it.
Hmmm rx8 lightweight? 1500 kg! Lol

Ls1 sounds epic
Are you carrying round an extra 200Kg? The RX-8 isn't 1500kg.
Google reveals

Weight Claimed: 1350kg / 2976lb (DIN) 1435kg (UE)
Weight (EU): 1475kg / 3252lb (heaviest verified in running order)
The very heaviest version (probably an auto with a full tank of fuel and driver) and it's still not 1500Kg!
Wiki claims:

1,373 kg for the manual and 1,384 kg for the Auto.

Your right it's not 1500kg, but it's not far off, especially with driver
1373Kg is a massive difference to 1500Kg, 130Kg is like carrying two extra people round with you all the time!

I actually agree that the RX-8 is not as light as it could be but for something with 4 doors and 4 seats, decent stereo, nice interior and lots of toys rather than a stripped out car it's really pretty light for a modern car.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

169 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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GregK2 said:
LOW4LYFE said:
All that hard work ruined by Rotas laugh Buy some proper wheels before those have a catastrophic structural failure and kill you and your car.
rolleyes
Quite. Total myth, no worse than any other cast wheels.

aka_kerrly

12,417 posts

210 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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ManOpener said:
GregK2 said:
LOW4LYFE said:
All that hard work ruined by Rotas laugh Buy some proper wheels before those have a catastrophic structural failure and kill you and your car.
rolleyes
Quite. Total myth, no worse than any other cast wheels.
Perhaps so , there was a lot of concern about Chinese knock offs that were really rubbish but that issue aside I look at most of their designs as rip offs.

TIGA84

5,206 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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sounds bonkers, but fair play to you.

Riding quite high non?

treetops

1,177 posts

158 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Terrible spelling.

Awesome project - keep the thread updated!