Yet another rescued E36 328i M Sport project...
Discussion
Supply and demand and being dragged up by M3 prices. Not hard to see why when supply of good ones (no rust, sub 100k miles) is virtually non existent.
At the time, plenty of the press preferred the 328 over the M3 (partially why I went for it).
Personally I don't see the appeal of the E46 M3 - too big, too heavy and too remote for my liking. The engine is not bad but it's a heavy old lump up front.
A properly sorted E36 328 makes for a far more fun and engaging road car IMO.
At the time, plenty of the press preferred the 328 over the M3 (partially why I went for it).
Personally I don't see the appeal of the E46 M3 - too big, too heavy and too remote for my liking. The engine is not bad but it's a heavy old lump up front.
A properly sorted E36 328 makes for a far more fun and engaging road car IMO.
f1nn said:
Jesus, Hollybrook have one of these up for 13k.........I just don't get it!
And it's an auto. No doubt optimistic pricing and I don't think it is worth the money but they are on the up (like many cars of that vintage). Whether you or I think they are worth it has no bearing on market prices.
f1nn said:
It's okay, EBay has provided a reality check, with a handful of half decent "looking" cars in the 2-4K range I'd expect them to be.
What's been spent on this car is probably trivial compared to what some numpties will piss away on:1) pointless carbon fibre performance parts
2) unnecessary brake upgrades
3) depreciation
On their newer BMW so given the op can look at this as an investment in a car that can provide years more driving pleasure why don't you just give it a rest.
Yes there are a bunch of other cas on eBay for £2k -£4K but they will be in nothing like the condition this car will be when the op has finished.
Edited by wibblebrain on Tuesday 9th August 22:24
I'm not saying that they will be in the same condition, nor have I criticised the OP in any way.....
My point being that I am surprised at the values that have been quoted in this thread, for cars that I assumed were in the 2-4K range. I was surprised to hear that 7.5k-8k was usual, with one example being advertised at over 13k......
It would appear that good examples are appreciating, which is great, but 7.5-8K? Wow.
My point being that I am surprised at the values that have been quoted in this thread, for cars that I assumed were in the 2-4K range. I was surprised to hear that 7.5k-8k was usual, with one example being advertised at over 13k......
It would appear that good examples are appreciating, which is great, but 7.5-8K? Wow.
f1nn said:
I'm not saying that they will be in the same condition, nor have I criticised the OP in any way.....
My point being that I am surprised at the values that have been quoted in this thread, for cars that I assumed were in the 2-4K range. I was surprised to hear that 7.5k-8k was usual, with one example being advertised at over 13k......
It would appear that good examples are appreciating, which is great, but 7.5-8K? Wow.
IIRC nobody has said £8k was usual. I think the OP got agreement that he could have an agreed value of £8k for his car when all work is completed.My point being that I am surprised at the values that have been quoted in this thread, for cars that I assumed were in the 2-4K range. I was surprised to hear that 7.5k-8k was usual, with one example being advertised at over 13k......
It would appear that good examples are appreciating, which is great, but 7.5-8K? Wow.
wibblebrain said:
IIRC nobody has said £8k was usual. I think the OP got agreement that he could have an agreed value of £8k for his car when all work is completed.
Right on point! Now can we all agree to put that subject to bed!!!Does anyone like / have any interest / input of the engine build pics I put up over the last week? Or has everyone missed the point that this is a build / restoration thread and not a car valuation discussion?
wibblebrain said:
IIRC nobody has said £8k was usual. I think the OP got agreement that he could have an agreed value of £8k for his car when all work is completed.
The OP reckons, he has been offered 7.5K when finished, there is a low mileage convertible on eBay for 8K, christ, there is a non sport convertible up for 7.5k on here, along with the 13k example being offered by Hollybrook. I was of the opinion that 2k would get you a useable example, 4K a minter, but as people keep telling me these would appear to be appreciating quickly if they are half decent, so turns out I was wrong.
RickBristol said:
wibblebrain said:
IIRC nobody has said £8k was usual. I think the OP got agreement that he could have an agreed value of £8k for his car when all work is completed.
Right on point! Now can we all agree to put that subject to bed!!!Does anyone like / have any interest / input of the engine build pics I put up over the last week? Or has everyone missed the point that this is a build / restoration thread and not a car valuation discussion?
I for one, have no interest in what the car may or not be worth, in pure cash terms, it will always be worth what someone is willing to pay.
Anyway keep up the good work and reminding me how much I liked mine.
f1nn said:
SidewaysSi said:
I am genuinely not sure why it is so surprising that values have risen?
The £2k cars of today were £800 sheds a couple of years ago.
I don't think anyone is surprised at the values rising, more the extent of which they have risen in a relatively short time scale.The £2k cars of today were £800 sheds a couple of years ago.
Anyway you lot. Just in case you missed this in all this stupid price discussion b
ks...
What do you think of this? - from one of my posts last week...
THAT'S what you should be talking about - pure petrol head porn - as I said before.
Compared with its original condition.
The guys have put a lot of elbow grease into this project and is much appreciated.
Or this...
Get the picture? No pun intended of course....
ks...What do you think of this? - from one of my posts last week...
THAT'S what you should be talking about - pure petrol head porn - as I said before.
Compared with its original condition.
The guys have put a lot of elbow grease into this project and is much appreciated.
Or this...
Get the picture? No pun intended of course....
Edited by RickBristol on Friday 12th August 22:13
Agreed, let's park what the prices may or may not be doing.
Genuine question, realistically is there risk of foreign object....entry?? Into the engine as you're building up outside, I'm thinking airborne st/grit etc.
Only reason I ask is years ago when I'd mess with cars lots of places I'd visit would have dedicated engine building "clean rooms"
Genuine question, realistically is there risk of foreign object....entry?? Into the engine as you're building up outside, I'm thinking airborne s
t/grit etc.Only reason I ask is years ago when I'd mess with cars lots of places I'd visit would have dedicated engine building "clean rooms"
f1nn said:
Agreed, let's park what the prices may or may not be doing.
Genuine question, realistically is there risk of foreign object....entry?? Into the engine as you're building up outside, I'm thinking airborne st/grit etc.
Only reason I ask is years ago when I'd mess with cars lots of places I'd visit would have dedicated engine building "clean rooms"
Although it has been worked on in the open air, it most parts have been cleaned in a parts cleaner and the rest have been cleaned as best possible. The guys have been fastidious with making sure that everything has been thoroughly cleaned and checked before assembly. Genuine question, realistically is there risk of foreign object....entry?? Into the engine as you're building up outside, I'm thinking airborne s
t/grit etc.Only reason I ask is years ago when I'd mess with cars lots of places I'd visit would have dedicated engine building "clean rooms"
Well, I'm hoping to get some more pics of the cams going into the head some time next week. Told my mate that I want a vid of the engine being rotated before it finally gets finished and transplanted into my car. Should also have plenty of pics of the car front end panels and bonnet strip-down and removing the old lump...
Also, without wanting to go back to the dark ages of getting bogged down in monetary value bks. Someone brought up the subject of 'value is dependant, partly, on mileage.
As the gear box has been serviced and had oil replaced, the LSD was serviced and had new, very expensive, Castrol Syntrax oil replaced, the main suspension bushes and suspension replaced, the original dual-mass clutch replaced with a non dual-mass quality sports clutch and fly wheel, brake pads are to be replaced with EBC Red Stuff ceramic pads, new cam and crank position sensors, VANOS reconditioned, short shifter kit fitted to the gear box, new braided clutch cable fitted, new fuel filter, total engine rebuild from scratch...
Mods include: cold air induction kit with heat shield, 24 psi injectors - as opposed to the standard 11 psi, M50 manifold conversion, large bore throttle body, 'crazy cams' re-profiled by Piper Cams, re-mapped when dyno'ed.
All of the above done with OEM BMW or better parts.
I'm really looking forward to the dyno print out too! let's see what all this effort produces... Hopefully an extra 40 to 50 bhp. Any bets being offered guys?
Might be worth a bit of debate...
Also, without wanting to go back to the dark ages of getting bogged down in monetary value b
ks. Someone brought up the subject of 'value is dependant, partly, on mileage.As the gear box has been serviced and had oil replaced, the LSD was serviced and had new, very expensive, Castrol Syntrax oil replaced, the main suspension bushes and suspension replaced, the original dual-mass clutch replaced with a non dual-mass quality sports clutch and fly wheel, brake pads are to be replaced with EBC Red Stuff ceramic pads, new cam and crank position sensors, VANOS reconditioned, short shifter kit fitted to the gear box, new braided clutch cable fitted, new fuel filter, total engine rebuild from scratch...
Mods include: cold air induction kit with heat shield, 24 psi injectors - as opposed to the standard 11 psi, M50 manifold conversion, large bore throttle body, 'crazy cams' re-profiled by Piper Cams, re-mapped when dyno'ed.
All of the above done with OEM BMW or better parts.
I'm really looking forward to the dyno print out too! let's see what all this effort produces... Hopefully an extra 40 to 50 bhp. Any bets being offered guys?
Might be worth a bit of debate...
Edited by RickBristol on Thursday 18th August 08:48
Slightly off topic but a question for the OP, where does one acquire an adapted M50 intake manifold, oversized throttle body and heat shielded induction kit for the M52 motor these days? It seems like about 10 years ago there were some guys on e36coupe.com selling these items but they don't seem to be available any more.
Bought my 328i this year and would like to derestrict the engine...
Bought my 328i this year and would like to derestrict the engine...
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