Yet another rescued E36 328i M Sport project...

Yet another rescued E36 328i M Sport project...

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shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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Make sure you clean the powdercoat off the mating faces of those wheels!

RickBristol

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330 posts

117 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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shalmaneser said:
Make sure you clean the powdercoat off the mating faces of those wheels!
OK... Will relay that to the guy sorting the car out. What's this issue exactly?

Huskyman

654 posts

128 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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RickBristol said:
shalmaneser said:
Make sure you clean the powdercoat off the mating faces of those wheels!
OK... Will relay that to the guy sorting the car out. What's this issue exactly?
Shalmabaser means the bit of the wheel centre that comes into contact with the brake disc/hub. Without the coating you will get a better fit onto the hub and get a reliable tightening between the two faces as there is metal to metal contact. The wheel also can act as a heat sink for the brake disc

Edited by Huskyman on Thursday 15th June 19:33


Edited by Huskyman on Thursday 15th June 19:34

RickBristol

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330 posts

117 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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After almost a month since my last update, there has been more progress on the interior re-fit.

First up is a couple of pics of a 'rare as hen's teeth' option for the E36 coupe. My mate managed to come across this a few weeks back, only paid £150 for it too!



A rear parcel shelf with a built-in blind....



As Sam would say "I can see you nodding quietly in approval..."

The rear passenger door cards are now finished and ready to be fitted.





The rear passenger seats are nearly finished - they are going to be temporary fitted for the purposes of the latest update 'photo shoot'.



And now the rear seats are nearly complete.





And the head rests, with the blind up.



The silver, black and red colour combination works really well, I think!



Think this is gonna end up being one of the best E36 328i sports out there when its finished... smokin

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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RickBristol said:
shalmaneser said:
Make sure you clean the powdercoat off the mating faces of those wheels!
OK... Will relay that to the guy sorting the car out. What's this issue exactly?
When the brake discs get hot they cause the powdercoat to soften, meaning that the previously tight wheel bolts loose tension causing them to come loose

TheDukeGTi

202 posts

137 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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That interior looks awesome. I'd love one for my red e36.

Percent

140 posts

98 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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I've read the entire thread. What a great 328i this already is. There is beauty in taking something worn and tired and making it like new. I have one in boston green with similar performance mods just not as much interior though smile

RickBristol

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330 posts

117 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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OK. Time for the latest news update, in the world of my car journey.

Well, this week has been a bit of a st sandwich, with a light sprinkling of sugar on the top!

Things started off pleasantly enough.

The prop shaft was reconnected.



The replacement stainless exhaust got fitted to the car.



Had a new battery fitted, as the old one wouldn't hold any charge, at a cost of around £129 from Yuasa, with a 4 year guarantee to boot!.





Even better than that! Got a vid of the car being started for the first time, after nearly two years and a total engine rebuild. However, it doesn't seem possible to upload a vid on PH.

Managed to procure another BBS RC041 wheel as a spare for the boot which cost around £100.



About to settle into its new home.



The car now looks good and ready to go and get it MOT'd...

Engine bay.





Sitting pretty, ready for collection...







So, went up to collect the car, a seven hour round-trip, what with heavy rain on the way up the M4 and a huge tail back at stand-still on the M3 on the return leg, we decided to cut across country, with the car on a trailer, AND in heavy rain...

An hour after I left the car at the garage back in Bristol, I had a phone call from the mechanic, to say that I should not spend any more money on the car as he had the car up on the lift and had some very bad news, and asked me to come and see him in the morning...... weeping

After a very poor night's sleep, stressing and mulling-over what decision I was prepared to make, I bit the bullet....

Had the underside completely rotted-out? after languishing in the Southampton salty air for the last two years, could it be?.......

Anyway, it turned out to be just the sills. I had already been advised to remove the body kit side skirts and check the sills, while the car was still being worked on.

yikes



They were certainly right on that one....



After looking into the most appropriate way to sort the problem out. It was decided to grind off the old ones, clean the surrounding bodywork up, buy new sills, probably from BMW, rust treat them properly, weld them on, wax oil the insides, weld 3mm plates to the outside of the jacking points, treat and stone chip the undersides, and repaint. Gonna fit threaded rivets underneath to reattach the side skirts properly, and better than BMW did in the first place - i.e. no plastic clips... Price all-in, for both sides, around £550. Bargain!

On the upside - sprinkling of sugar on the last st day - just took delivery of my lovely refurbished RC041's from the powder coater today. Polished rims lacquered, rear of the barrels powder coated the same colour as the centres, and centre nuts lacquered as well. Also had the second-hand M3 x-braced sand blasted and powder coated in black.....



It's been quite a couple of days, as I'm sure you can appreciate. rolleyes

Edited by RickBristol on Saturday 19th August 19:08

skylarking808

811 posts

87 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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Must check behind my sill covers at some point...

Great interior and it will be worth the wait to have a sorted sport.

I am envious of a non faded parcel shelf that is not purple/pink let alone one with a rear blind!
Any ideas how to keep the wheels protected once refurbished? They look spot on and are inspiring me to do the same.

MiggyA

193 posts

101 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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Ack, those sills! eek Any idea what the cause of that was? With mine I've noticed the thick underseal stuff tends to fail and split around the seams and joins, letting water in at which point it becomes a liability. I imagine in a salty area that could lead to some extensive rot particularly with the sill covers trapping even more moisture.

Is that £550 to completely replace both sills? Bargain if so IMO.

RickBristol

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330 posts

117 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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skylarking808 said:
Must check behind my sill covers at some point...

Great interior and it will be worth the wait to have a sorted sport.

I am envious of a non faded parcel shelf that is not purple/pink let alone one with a rear blind!
Any ideas how to keep the wheels protected once refurbished? They look spot on and are inspiring me to do the same.
That's why I had the rear of the barrels powder coated and the polished fronts lacquered, to stop them from pitting. Much easier to maintain and will last a long time. Still have to keep them clean though.

RickBristol

Original Poster:

330 posts

117 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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MiggyA said:
Ack, those sills! eek Any idea what the cause of that was? With mine I've noticed the thick underseal stuff tends to fail and split around the seams and joins, letting water in at which point it becomes a liability. I imagine in a salty area that could lead to some extensive rot particularly with the sill covers trapping even more moisture.

Is that £550 to completely replace both sills? Bargain if so IMO.
We think the rot started to penetrate around the plastic jacking point inserts and went un noticed because it was hidden behind the side skirts. Yes, that's for both sides. A bargain IMO too.

nosuchuser

837 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Indeed a bargain price to fix that. I really must drop the skirts on mine and have a good poke. Probably when I get round to dropping the whole rear end, exhaust, drive shaft and fuel tanks to have the new rtab consoles welded in..

MitchT

15,933 posts

210 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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How do you get the skirts off? I really must check mine!

RickBristol

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330 posts

117 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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MitchT said:
How do you get the skirts off? I really must check mine!
Get the car in the air, undo the small black screws along the length of the underside of the skirts, undo the retaining nuts at the end of the skirt in the lower rear wheel arch, and then gently, but firmly, pull the skirt towards you, from the side of the car. The sides are held on by white plastic clips on the bodywork, at the bottom of the door line.

RickBristol

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330 posts

117 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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"Price all-in, for both sides, around £550. Bargain!"....

Well, that was a completely naive and utterly stupid assumption!

Check this bad boy receipt out....



AND, there's still the fitting/finishing work to take into account! Probably gonna be about £650 per side! yikes

BMW are the only company that still manufactures/supplies sills for an e36 328 sport/M3. Googled the st out of searching for after markets. Interestingly, you CAN find them for four door saloons, but they still cost around the same...

Put some serious thought into it, before you remove those side skirts.... If your jacking points are looking ropey, then the decision is yours.....

Edited by RickBristol on Monday 21st August 23:36

Escy

3,958 posts

150 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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I admire your dedication with this car. Do you ever look back and wish you'd just spent more money on a better example to start with?

helix402

7,892 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Shame you don't know a good fabricator! I did a jacking point on my E46 with home made repair panels:





Sure it'll be great when it's done, do you a have a welder lined up?

RickBristol

Original Poster:

330 posts

117 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Escy said:
I admire your dedication with this car. Do you ever look back and wish you'd just spent more money on a better example to start with?
Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes!... headache As I've said before, this was never meant to be a car rebuild project. But, in the words of Roots Manuva, One thing leads to the next thing, leads to the next thing, leads to the next thing...

At least I have managed to rescue another e36 328i Sport, and before anyone criticises my stupidity for taking this car on, without knowing what to lookout for/avoid. Take a look around you. How many of these do you see anymore?...

The sills are the last big spend on this project, and it is now around 85% complete. My hand was forced on the sills, as I had already put so much into the car. Where was I going to strip the car? How much time/resources did I have to strip it? Where was I going to store the parts? How much of my life was I going to dedicate to eBay to sell the parts? How many tyre-kickers was I going to have to suffer in order to sell the parts?............. rolleyes

At least the car is back in Bristol and is now in the hands of a good garage that means the car can now be finished relatively soon. I can, at last, actually see myself driving it again in the not too distant.... We have the upgraded brakes to replace. rear trailing arm and diff sub frame bushes to replace, get the rear sub frame sand blasted and powder coated. This guy has prepared M3 track cars in the past and has already decided on completely reinforcing the bodywork where all the rear suspension components are mounted, then treat, stone chip and paint.

Hopefully, my thread should act as a guide for anyone thinking of taking one of these on - even more so - or an M3. I'm sure decent ones are still out there to be had for reasonable money. My advice would be to take a good look at anything you are considering, and if possible, take someone who knows their way around these cars. They can end up being a cavernous money pit.....

Vincefox

20,566 posts

173 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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My e36 Evo as been ruinously expensive.

People really, REALLY underestimate how expensive these are to keep on top of when they get to this age.