Ford Mustang 2013 GT Track Pack
Discussion
5ohmustang said:
Matt that is.. a lack of operator maintenance. The mustang has been stored in my garage and I have not touched it other than an oil change. I've been doing a lot of studying and i've training, so I have not had the time, other than fitting easy modifications.
I noticed the corrosion on the negative terminal, i'll clean it up today. It was that bad a year ago. Do you think it is undercharging?
I'll look at it later after I recover from food coma. Happy 4th July mate.
I think it's more usually gas leaking from the battery through the seal around the post reacting with the metal parts, rather than an indicator of an undercharge situation. I noticed the corrosion on the negative terminal, i'll clean it up today. It was that bad a year ago. Do you think it is undercharging?
I'll look at it later after I recover from food coma. Happy 4th July mate.
The battery failed in my Mustang around 2 years into it's life - but that was a simple cell failure.
Coating the posts and connections with boat trailer bearing grease will put a stop to it.
Have a great holiday weekend yourself - Down with the British! No taxation without representation!
The rockers/side skirts have taken a beating from crap on the road. There is a load of spotted tar behind each of the wheels, on the arches and doors. So far I am half way done with cleaning it off. A clay bar would only do so much. I have order some front mud guards, discrete looking but it will help some what. The rears came with mud guards from factory.
Then the roush side splitters were drooping. Some of the push pins have come out and the 3m double sided tape has failed. I'm not sure if they are worth the hassle of keeping. They collect dirt and are hard to clean. However I like the look and they do stop some road debris from reaching the side skirts.
Also looks like the inner arch liner needs to be replaced too.
No taxation without representation!
At work I was asked how I felt about the 4th of July. I shouted hail to England! God save the queen. I was tackled to the ground, while I shouted, "get off me I am a liberal", "we're taking your guns", "don't tase me bro" to which i was hogtied with zipcuffs and had scoops of ice poured down my shirt. I love winding people up with fake left wing b
ks. They all know how I really feel. Liberty of death! Long live the republic!
Then the roush side splitters were drooping. Some of the push pins have come out and the 3m double sided tape has failed. I'm not sure if they are worth the hassle of keeping. They collect dirt and are hard to clean. However I like the look and they do stop some road debris from reaching the side skirts.
Also looks like the inner arch liner needs to be replaced too.
No taxation without representation!
At work I was asked how I felt about the 4th of July. I shouted hail to England! God save the queen. I was tackled to the ground, while I shouted, "get off me I am a liberal", "we're taking your guns", "don't tase me bro" to which i was hogtied with zipcuffs and had scoops of ice poured down my shirt. I love winding people up with fake left wing b
ks. They all know how I really feel. Liberty of death! Long live the republic!
I am sittung in the back seat whilst being driven. There is an annoying rattle U am trying to isolate. I believe the drivers window is slightly off track.
It's not that bad in the back as long as the driver is not over 6'0 . There's just enough headroom, however my head will bang on the ceiling over bumps. Still, there is more room than the s550.
Edited by 5ohmustang on Sunday 3rd July 22:13
The only thing about the sound tube that bothered me, was the fact it would get in the way of the oil dipstick. I never really noticed a difference in ducted sound, even when I took out one of the baffles.
So this Steeda spring... The instructions from steeda were wrong. That is all I am saying. See this link for more info.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/chassis-susp...
I just did a shakedown on the local country roads and there is a night and day difference. There is much less travel,time between upshifts and downshifts is greatly improved.
Previously it felt like there were 2 stages to the clutch, once you hit the friction point and lift up, you could never hurry it. Now I can do much faster gear changes. It is amazing what a different spring can do. Well worth $12 and free shipping.
This thing is brutally fast and so bloody loud. I feel content right now.
My inner fender/wheel arch liner was not broken after all, just incorrectly mounted, fixed.
I ordered the GT500 rear caliper brackets today. This will increase the GT/Boss rear discs from 11.8" to 13.8".
Each disc from Ford costs $70, so $140 plus the brackets at $115= $265 total. Frugality at it's finest!
So this Steeda spring... The instructions from steeda were wrong. That is all I am saying. See this link for more info.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/chassis-susp...
I just did a shakedown on the local country roads and there is a night and day difference. There is much less travel,time between upshifts and downshifts is greatly improved.
Previously it felt like there were 2 stages to the clutch, once you hit the friction point and lift up, you could never hurry it. Now I can do much faster gear changes. It is amazing what a different spring can do. Well worth $12 and free shipping.
This thing is brutally fast and so bloody loud. I feel content right now.
My inner fender/wheel arch liner was not broken after all, just incorrectly mounted, fixed.
I ordered the GT500 rear caliper brackets today. This will increase the GT/Boss rear discs from 11.8" to 13.8".
Each disc from Ford costs $70, so $140 plus the brackets at $115= $265 total. Frugality at it's finest!
I finally got round to the rear brake rotors/discs. As the pics show the gt500 discs are difference in size.
The original gt/boss rear disc.
The caliper adapter.
Installation was straight forward until I had to reinstall the caliper. The piston is a spiral type so I could not just recompress it with a C clamp.
I took a ride into town to my local autozone. They had the full spiral adapter clamp kit. Autozone offer a lending service. I temporarily paid $65 for the kit and tomorrow when I take it back they will give me a full refund. I cannot complain with that.
Life is old here, older than the trees, younger than the mountains, blowing like a breeze.
The original gt/boss rear disc.
The caliper adapter.
Installation was straight forward until I had to reinstall the caliper. The piston is a spiral type so I could not just recompress it with a C clamp.
I took a ride into town to my local autozone. They had the full spiral adapter clamp kit. Autozone offer a lending service. I temporarily paid $65 for the kit and tomorrow when I take it back they will give me a full refund. I cannot complain with that.
Life is old here, older than the trees, younger than the mountains, blowing like a breeze.
The picture is deceiving due to the large size of the 20" wheel. The discs/rotors are bigger than they appear. As I mentioned before it is the GT uses same rear caliper used as the GT500 and boss 302's.
The braking has never been an issue with this car, however sooner or later I will begin power modifications.
Many boss owners say this setup along with uprated brake fluid, braided brake lines and front brake ducts are more than enough for hard track use.
If at a later time I need more braking, i'll switch the front 4 pot brembos with 14" discs to GT500 6 pots with 15" discs. The downside is the increased weight, more expensive pads, discs and less of a selection.
The front GT500 brake setup is affordable and usually Shelby American sell their take off's through their ebay store.
My next task on the mustang is to refit the d/s side skirt properly with new hardware and then refit the roush side splitter. Then fit the new front mudguards that have just arrived.
Still have so much want for this car and thanks for the continued updates. I don't know if this has been covered earlier, but I can't help but think that the car could do with a 20-30mm (1-1 1/4in) drop in ride height.
I appreciate that this may not be a straight forward due to the leaf springs on the back. Did that era still have leaf springs?
My car tastes change as I get oolder, but I don't think I will ever not want a Mustang. The lottery win would be 67 fastback with the Gone in 60 seconds bodykit. My wife paid for a elanor replica (Still genuine GT500) as my wedding car. It was a fantastic experience. It proved that as enthusiasts cars are more than the sum total of their parts. The Mustang is a simple beast compared to today's 300bhp hot hatch, yet I recon that 67 fastback had more photos taken of it than anything else in the car park.
I appreciate that this may not be a straight forward due to the leaf springs on the back. Did that era still have leaf springs?
My car tastes change as I get oolder, but I don't think I will ever not want a Mustang. The lottery win would be 67 fastback with the Gone in 60 seconds bodykit. My wife paid for a elanor replica (Still genuine GT500) as my wedding car. It was a fantastic experience. It proved that as enthusiasts cars are more than the sum total of their parts. The Mustang is a simple beast compared to today's 300bhp hot hatch, yet I recon that 67 fastback had more photos taken of it than anything else in the car park.
bakerstreet said:
Still have so much want for this car and thanks for the continued updates. I don't know if this has been covered earlier, but I can't help but think that the car could do with a 20-30mm (1-1 1/4in) drop in ride height.
I appreciate that this may not be a straight forward due to the leaf springs on the back. Did that era still have leaf springs?
Mustang has coil packs front and rear. No leaf springs. I think car looks fine as it is. Of course suspension mods can be handy when tracking the car.I appreciate that this may not be a straight forward due to the leaf springs on the back. Did that era still have leaf springs?
I just bought 2013 GT myself. Brembo pack automatic. Fully stock now. I will drive it a year and think then whether I want to change something. First mod will be winter tires(Finland) of course before anything else
99chimaera, thank you, it is much apprieciated. I often think I should do a video blog, the magnus walker of the mustang world. Finding the time is half the battle.
Bakerstreet, I fully agree on the lowering. I will get round to it eventually. I want to finish off the exterior mods with the brake ducts and then do the interior.
The problem is one of my homes has a steep driveway, the car just clears scraping on full lock. The last time I damaged the undertray it was $170 to replace.
Trust me, everytime I see my mustang, I see the car, then I see the rear wheel arch gap.
Leaf springs? You cheeky bugger!
Mustangs have not had leaf springs since the mustang II in the 70s. All foxbody mustangs 1979-1993 had proper coil springs.
The achilles heel is the live rear axle. However by 2011 this was sorted and the first coyote 5.0 was faster round Laguna Seca than the M3 V8.
The solid live axle only shows its arse when yo're going round a corner that has pot holes or bumps. You can feel the axle jiggy about. However it can be cured and it will be in time.
However the live axle is much stronger and lighter than the irs on the s550.
The cobra jet s550 has a solid live axle in favor of it's regular half shafts. Ford performance sell uprated halfshafts but they're pricey.
I like the original gt500. The bodykit is ok apart from the front bumper cutout. It reminds me of when people had mk4 escorts with the badboy bumpers and tsw venoms.
I'd love a vintage 427 boss.
Raitzi, I like that color of red. My low profile tires don't help out with the wheel gap. I pretty much got them for free. So I am trying to use them up first before changing them out. How do you like your mustang?
Bakerstreet, I fully agree on the lowering. I will get round to it eventually. I want to finish off the exterior mods with the brake ducts and then do the interior.
The problem is one of my homes has a steep driveway, the car just clears scraping on full lock. The last time I damaged the undertray it was $170 to replace.
Trust me, everytime I see my mustang, I see the car, then I see the rear wheel arch gap.
Leaf springs? You cheeky bugger!
Mustangs have not had leaf springs since the mustang II in the 70s. All foxbody mustangs 1979-1993 had proper coil springs.
The achilles heel is the live rear axle. However by 2011 this was sorted and the first coyote 5.0 was faster round Laguna Seca than the M3 V8.
The solid live axle only shows its arse when yo're going round a corner that has pot holes or bumps. You can feel the axle jiggy about. However it can be cured and it will be in time.
However the live axle is much stronger and lighter than the irs on the s550.
The cobra jet s550 has a solid live axle in favor of it's regular half shafts. Ford performance sell uprated halfshafts but they're pricey.
I like the original gt500. The bodykit is ok apart from the front bumper cutout. It reminds me of when people had mk4 escorts with the badboy bumpers and tsw venoms.
I'd love a vintage 427 boss.
Raitzi, I like that color of red. My low profile tires don't help out with the wheel gap. I pretty much got them for free. So I am trying to use them up first before changing them out. How do you like your mustang?
5ohmustang said:
Raitzi, I like that color of red. My low profile tires don't help out with the wheel gap. I pretty much got them for free. So I am trying to use them up first before changing them out. How do you like your mustang?
A lot different than my last car, Cayman R . Exactly what I wanted. I don't track it so no need to get the newer version(s550) and pay more. Rides just fine also turns good into corners. It is still a physically large car and takes some time to get used to. Rear camera and sensors helps with parking. Might also do front sensors at some point. I just wanted cool reliable car with some presence and mustang does just that. Everybody is asking what cars is it. Only seen one 2013 mustang in capital area here before. They never imported these officially. Now the new car is officially in Europe but costs Porsche money because the CO2 tax. Will keep it stock for now. Might do rear springs to level the rake but I think there are no 0.5 rear drop springs? But really I want to keep this car usable in harsh conditions.This means full winter driving and rural gravel roads; places no Porsche has gone I am assuming it is a GT premium with the rear camera and sensors? Rear sensors would help me out so much.
I would agree that the front sensors are worth it. I have had too many close calls. I find because of the power buldge bonnet it's pretty hard to park straight. Some of my parking is bad, but I blame the mustang.
CO2 tax, don't get me started.
The factory p zeros are horrible in the snow. I was stuck at least twice when I lived in Colorado.
Snow tires should make a night and day difference. After I ended up sideways on a snowy interstate I won't be driving it in the snow for sometime. You have big balls sir, I salute you.
Today I saw the Mekur XR4TI again. Not found the owner yet. I wonder if he knows what he has. The RS500 replica I could make of this.
I once owned an Opel Manta 400 replica, C30SE engine swap. I'd love a rally replica but there is not many road based rally cars. Sti's and evo's are insanely overpriced.
I would agree that the front sensors are worth it. I have had too many close calls. I find because of the power buldge bonnet it's pretty hard to park straight. Some of my parking is bad, but I blame the mustang.
CO2 tax, don't get me started.
The factory p zeros are horrible in the snow. I was stuck at least twice when I lived in Colorado.
Snow tires should make a night and day difference. After I ended up sideways on a snowy interstate I won't be driving it in the snow for sometime. You have big balls sir, I salute you.
Today I saw the Mekur XR4TI again. Not found the owner yet. I wonder if he knows what he has. The RS500 replica I could make of this.
I once owned an Opel Manta 400 replica, C30SE engine swap. I'd love a rally replica but there is not many road based rally cars. Sti's and evo's are insanely overpriced.
5ohmustang said:
I am assuming it is a GT premium with the rear camera and sensors? Rear sensors would help me out so much.
I would agree that the front sensors are worth it. I have had too many close calls. I find because of the power buldge bonnet it's pretty hard to park straight. Some of my parking is bad, but I blame the mustang.
CO2 tax, don't get me started.
The factory p zeros are horrible in the snow. I was stuck at least twice when I lived in Colorado.
Snow tires should make a night and day difference. After I ended up sideways on a snowy interstate I won't be driving it in the snow for sometime. You have big balls sir, I salute you.
Yes, it has rear camera and sensors.Front sensor is about 1xx dollars and install is quite straight forward DIY. I will likely install studded Nokian Hakka winter tires(had them in Porsche for winter). I am now thinking 235 all round with 8 inch width and 18 in diameter to clear the Brembos. No way I am planning to use p zeros in snow I would agree that the front sensors are worth it. I have had too many close calls. I find because of the power buldge bonnet it's pretty hard to park straight. Some of my parking is bad, but I blame the mustang.
CO2 tax, don't get me started.
The factory p zeros are horrible in the snow. I was stuck at least twice when I lived in Colorado.
Snow tires should make a night and day difference. After I ended up sideways on a snowy interstate I won't be driving it in the snow for sometime. You have big balls sir, I salute you.
I am just waiting for my sideskirt hardware to arrive.
Meanwhile, i've just been reading the below speedhunters article on pikes peak. You should check it out, the pictures are spectacular.
http://www.speedhunters.com/2016/07/art-pikes-peak...
The best years of my life was spent living and working in the pikes peak region. There is something truly magical about Colorado, I cannot sum it up in words.
Freedom to be left alone, to live your life without negativity of others infringing on your personal liberty.
There is not a day that goes by where I do not think about it. My love for the wilderness happened when I would spend weekends in Scotland.
It all started on a Led Zeppelin pilgrimage to Boleskine house in Foyers. The highlands just blew me away. I think it was the A82 from Glasgow to Inverness, just an amazing drive.
I'd leave Glasgow at first light and go to driving heaven. In a lot of ways, the highlands of Scotland reminds me of Colorado.
Here are some of my travels.
If my memory serves me correctly this was the last year of the dirt road before it was paved.
It costs $10 I believe, per person to drive up the road or you can take the cog railway from manitou springs. The air is very thin and n/a cars lose a lot of power at this altitude. The road itself is much longer than the section of road used in the race.
Everytime I tried to take the mustang on a spirited drive up the pikes peak, there were too many tourists.
The first time I drove up the Devil's Playground I was in a B6 S4 Quattro. It was a significant emotional event just because it was a quattro and for that moment I was Walter Röhrl.
Meanwhile, i've just been reading the below speedhunters article on pikes peak. You should check it out, the pictures are spectacular.
http://www.speedhunters.com/2016/07/art-pikes-peak...
The best years of my life was spent living and working in the pikes peak region. There is something truly magical about Colorado, I cannot sum it up in words.
Freedom to be left alone, to live your life without negativity of others infringing on your personal liberty.
There is not a day that goes by where I do not think about it. My love for the wilderness happened when I would spend weekends in Scotland.
It all started on a Led Zeppelin pilgrimage to Boleskine house in Foyers. The highlands just blew me away. I think it was the A82 from Glasgow to Inverness, just an amazing drive.
I'd leave Glasgow at first light and go to driving heaven. In a lot of ways, the highlands of Scotland reminds me of Colorado.
Here are some of my travels.
If my memory serves me correctly this was the last year of the dirt road before it was paved.
It costs $10 I believe, per person to drive up the road or you can take the cog railway from manitou springs. The air is very thin and n/a cars lose a lot of power at this altitude. The road itself is much longer than the section of road used in the race.
Everytime I tried to take the mustang on a spirited drive up the pikes peak, there were too many tourists.
The first time I drove up the Devil's Playground I was in a B6 S4 Quattro. It was a significant emotional event just because it was a quattro and for that moment I was Walter Röhrl.
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