Rolls Royce Silver Shadow bought sight-unseen from eBay

Rolls Royce Silver Shadow bought sight-unseen from eBay

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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LordGrover said:
Chippendale was a fine cabinet maker and worker of wood - named after him I suspect.
So nothing to do with...?

TheInternet

4,717 posts

163 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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ecurie said:
If your chassisnumber is lower than SRH7404 it might also be the front height control valve.
Is that a fully redundant braking system on the front axle?

jimfoz said:
The interior just looks like it needs recolonising
Apt typo.

varsas

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4,013 posts

202 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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TheInternet said:
ecurie said:
If your chassisnumber is lower than SRH7404 it might also be the front height control valve.
Is that a fully redundant braking system on the front axle?

jimfoz said:
The interior just looks like it needs recolonising
Apt typo.
The car has three indpendant, but connected, brake systems. This includes two seperate front callipers per wheel, each fed by a different system. Each piston of the rear callipers (only one per wheel) also has a separate feed.

The main braking is done by a high pressure hydraulic system, fed by cam-driven pumps with pressure stored in accumulators and released to the callipers when required. there is also a normal, un-servod, system with a master cylinder but that's very much a secondary system. You wouldn't want to try stopping the car with just that!

Just to add, yes, the brakes are connected to the suspension too!


Edited by varsas on Friday 3rd October 15:18

5potTurbo

12,539 posts

168 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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jimfoz said:
The green and tan colour combo looks great. The interior just looks like it needs recolonising, but that is surprisingly inexpensive.
Doesn't look like you have a/c, but that is an added complication you can do without. If the bodywork and engine are essentially sound and you only have a few issues with the hydraulics you might have bagged yourself a keeper.
hehe
Sorry! I read it. Then read it again. Then I realised what it was that didn't 'fit' the context.
http://www.ukhide.co.uk/connolly/


OP: Top purchasing there. Good luck with the corroded pipe you've now located.

Carsie

925 posts

204 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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Lovely...... cool

g3org3y

20,631 posts

191 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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Wow, what a brave purchase! Best of luck running this. thumbup

varsas

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4,013 posts

202 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Car with bonnet/grill/radiator removed to gain access. The engine looks really cool!




The grotten (grotty 'n' rotten) pipes to the front height valve. The one that burst was one of the flexi hoses, but as you can see the fixed ones are also really horrible. The pipes you can see in the engine bay all look good, they are 'modern' copper, all nicely clipped and corrosion free, I guess whoever did that didn't change these! What's the betting the rear pipes/hoses are the same...


All the pipes you can see have been removed, nice shiny new ones on the way!

ecurie

383 posts

202 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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You should check all the hydraulic hoses : if they have a herringbone pattern (as can be seen in your picture), chances are they are very old and need replacing as soon as possible.

maxpaul

451 posts

204 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Hi
I can see from the early under bonnet pictures that front height control system is still in place.
In the early days this was disconnected by the dealers and packing blocks fitted on both control rams.
All the pipe work was blanked off and the system disconnected. The valve on the front cross member is the front ride height control valve which I can see is connected. the connecting rod was normally disconnected in the early modification. I was a Rolls Royce apprentice in the seventies and did a lot of these.
The handling was greatly improved. But I guess if you want it all original and unreliable! you can rebuild it but the factory disconnect kit would be my way forward.
Best of luck
Paul

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Out of interest, are they the Citroen-style bulge-and-pilot flares on the pipes, with a seal, or are they the more normal flare without seal?

If they're the Citroen-style, make sure you get the old seal out!

varsas

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4,013 posts

202 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Thanks for the replies.

I think it's easier to fix what's there. I don't think I'm confident enough to start modifying the car I'm afraid. I will look into that if things become more difficult.

They *look* like standard 'old-british-car' lines to me, but I will double check.

Church of Noise

1,458 posts

237 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Superb!
Enjoy it in good health!

I just started browsing for one of those as well...
(damn you PH, last time I asked advice on a distributor, I ended up buying an entire engine..)

williamp

19,260 posts

273 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Lovwly lovely lovely. How does it compare with the S1 Xj6, as many thougt the latter wasjust as good/ better when they road tested it

varsas

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4,013 posts

202 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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williamp said:
Lovwly lovely lovely. How does it compare with the S1 Xj6, as many thougt the latter wasjust as good/ better when they road tested it
Well, it's funny, the first time I drove a S1 XJ6 I really did think 'Wow, this is how I imagined an old RR or Bently must be' and you know what? I wasn't far off. In terms of just driving they offer a similar experience. Nice airy cabin, a lusty engine, over-light steering (which you do get used to) and soft suspension. The RR has the (even more) punchy engine and is more refined, but the Jaguar has much better handling, to the point where you can really enjoy driving the XJ6 swiftly. The RR does make the XJ6 look very ordinary in terms of general finish and interiour though. Don't get me wrong, the Jaguar is lovely but it doesn't really compare to the RR.

The XJ6 is clearly the better car; it drives better and is so much more practical being a bit smaller, and with better fuel economy but the RR is the nicer object, the nicer thing to own. The XJ6 is a really nice classic car, the Rolls Royce is a Rolls Royce. To be honest I'm not sure anyone else really tried to do what RR did at the time, I really do think it's unique so comparisons between the RR and anything else are a bit invalid.

R6VED

1,370 posts

140 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Very cool and brave/insane of you :-) I have just bought a 33 year old Mercedes 500 SEL in black with beige velour, not quite the same of course but in a similar old school, big engined, wafty vein :-)

Good luck

Charlie

varsas

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4,013 posts

202 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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R6VED said:
Very cool and brave/insane of you :-) I have just bought a 33 year old Mercedes 500 SEL in black with beige velour, not quite the same of course but in a similar old school, big engined, wafty vein :-)

Good luck

Charlie
Yeah, best sorts of classics IMHO. Everyone wants a sports car but if you want a drivers car just get a modern Boxster, but nothing does wafting better than a classic!

Pics please!

varsas

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4,013 posts

202 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Took advantage of the good weather today to replace those hoses and pipes. 3 down 13 to go!!


Ace-T

7,697 posts

255 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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That is a lovely old thing, well done!

It looks like our Bentley's grandad! hehe (green Turbo R)


soad

32,899 posts

176 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Will you fit a bike rack on the back?

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Ace-T said:
That is a lovely old thing, well done!

It looks like our Bentley's grandad!hehe (green Turbo R)
It's not just a car, it's a PH car!