2006 Porsche 987 Cayman 3.4 S Bore Score Edition
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
All this faffing around finding extended leather and you end up going for nhs grey with ruffled leather 
Nice looking car in all seriousness & a good job it had the warranty on it eh? I just can't fathom why the 3.4 has such a reputation for the bore scoring? You'd think it would be much safer than the 3.6 or 3.8 due to being a smaller bore, maybe the barrels are cast thinner on the cayman/boxster engines?
The 3.6 seems pretty un affected hardly ever hear of an issue. The 3.4 does seems to suffer most, then 3.8.Nice looking car in all seriousness & a good job it had the warranty on it eh? I just can't fathom why the 3.4 has such a reputation for the bore scoring? You'd think it would be much safer than the 3.6 or 3.8 due to being a smaller bore, maybe the barrels are cast thinner on the cayman/boxster engines?
I've got a 3.8 on 55,000 now completely bore score free thankfully, good maintenance, Vpower and driving it properly seem a good recipe for healthy engine.
Gibbo205 said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
All this faffing around finding extended leather and you end up going for nhs grey with ruffled leather
Nice looking car in all seriousness & a good job it had the warranty on it eh? I just can't fathom why the 3.4 has such a reputation for the bore scoring? You'd think it would be much safer than the 3.6 or 3.8 due to being a smaller bore, maybe the barrels are cast thinner on the cayman/boxster engines?
The 3.6 seems pretty un affected hardly ever hear of an issue. The 3.4 does seems to suffer most, then 3.8.Nice looking car in all seriousness & a good job it had the warranty on it eh? I just can't fathom why the 3.4 has such a reputation for the bore scoring? You'd think it would be much safer than the 3.6 or 3.8 due to being a smaller bore, maybe the barrels are cast thinner on the cayman/boxster engines?
I've got a 3.8 on 55,000 now completely bore score free thankfully, good maintenance, Vpower and driving it properly seem a good recipe for healthy engine.
I'm at the point of transfering ££££s out of one account to another to cough up for a 981 s. I've read until my eyes bleed about bores, IMS & RMS failures, so the one question I have for the knowledgeable people here is this: What percentage of these cars are affected by bore scoring?
I'm very well aware that driving style, length of journeys etc. affect the engines but I'm also aware that not many owners with 150k plus motors that have preformed faultlessly are likely to post page after page of comments on the internet, so as an overall broad brush guide, can we put a number on it? 5%? 10, 50%?
What I'm asking is this: Run for the hills, or make an educated assessment?
I'm very well aware that driving style, length of journeys etc. affect the engines but I'm also aware that not many owners with 150k plus motors that have preformed faultlessly are likely to post page after page of comments on the internet, so as an overall broad brush guide, can we put a number on it? 5%? 10, 50%?
What I'm asking is this: Run for the hills, or make an educated assessment?
Abagnale said:
DoubleSix said:
Why do you care if you are buying a 981?
With regards to the 981 I believe these issues have been resolved but it is arguably too early in the life cycle to draw any conclusions.
Sorry, I meant 987. I have my eye on a 2007 car at the moment.With regards to the 981 I believe these issues have been resolved but it is arguably too early in the life cycle to draw any conclusions.
Despite 3 years trouble free motoring with mine I'd probably lean towards a car with a warranty if I were to look at another 987.
Sure & fair enough point of view, but to reiterate the question, does anyone know that rate at which they're afflicted?
Whilst I could personally withstand it, even without a warranty, £25k+ is a lot to hand over for a ticking time bomb, when I could spend more time with my money & hang on for 981's to drop into my budget.
Thanks too, Cmoose, nice wheels btw.
Whilst I could personally withstand it, even without a warranty, £25k+ is a lot to hand over for a ticking time bomb, when I could spend more time with my money & hang on for 981's to drop into my budget.
Thanks too, Cmoose, nice wheels btw.
No way can I believe 20%! One in every 5 'M96/97 engined cars?! Do you know how many have been sold?!
I'd say 5% at absolute worst but it's probably less than1%, just when you read forums no one starts threads titled "why is my car running perfectly and not giving me anything to think about this week..."
I'd happily buy an M96/97 engined car that was less than 10years/75k miles and take my chances. I know of plenty of air cooled cars that needed rebuilt at sub 100k miles. No one cries about them.
I'd say 5% at absolute worst but it's probably less than1%, just when you read forums no one starts threads titled "why is my car running perfectly and not giving me anything to think about this week..."
I'd happily buy an M96/97 engined car that was less than 10years/75k miles and take my chances. I know of plenty of air cooled cars that needed rebuilt at sub 100k miles. No one cries about them.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
No way can I believe 20%! One in every 5 'M96/97 engined cars?! Do you know how many have been sold?!
I'd say 5% at absolute worst but it's probably less than1%, just when you read forums no one starts threads titled "why is my car running perfectly and not giving me anything to think about this week..."
I'd happily buy an M96/97 engined car that was less than 10years/75k miles and take my chances. I know of plenty of air cooled cars that needed rebuilt at sub 100k miles. No one cries about them.
It's a design fault - it will probably happen to all of them, eventually.I'd say 5% at absolute worst but it's probably less than1%, just when you read forums no one starts threads titled "why is my car running perfectly and not giving me anything to think about this week..."
I'd happily buy an M96/97 engined car that was less than 10years/75k miles and take my chances. I know of plenty of air cooled cars that needed rebuilt at sub 100k miles. No one cries about them.
anonymous said:
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Guys at Hartech told me to not worry, IMS failure they said is incredibly rare especially on revised 06 built onwards cars, they made it out to be less than 1% even on the older weaker IMS cars so really not a worry.Bore scoring they said is more common and will happen at somepoint in a cars life but cars which are driven as intended and well looked after should see 100k miles and more without issue, they said again not to worry.
My engine (3.8) was boroscoped by Hartech at 50,000 miles and they said it was completely unmarked and as such keep doing what I was doing as it's working.
Here's ours acquired earlier this year, 2007 S, almost exactly like yours! Guards Red, black extended leather but with a few options like factory short shifter and upgraded suspension (forgot from where
) Here it is fitting in really well at a supercar meet hahaEdited by wergus on Friday 21st November 21:45
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