Twin Engine Turbo Fiat Uno

Twin Engine Turbo Fiat Uno

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pherlopolus

2,088 posts

158 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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sounds about right.

I had a 5 speed with a 1.0 fire engine, used to fly along due to the low weight, saw an indicated 3 digit speed out of it regularly and cruised at 80 all day.


Joe5y

1,501 posts

183 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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I'm currently looking at a Mk1 Fiat Uno Turbo to re-live my youth a little. Having owned the below and at one point having 4 all at the same time I sort of miss these little rot boxes!





And I am far from ashamed tongue out

Dankelley

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19 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Site updated go easy on it lol

832ark

1,226 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Nice work! Will it be road registered?

Dankelley

Original Poster:

19 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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It will be but that's a fair while off yet....

832ark

1,226 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Dankelley said:
It will be but that's a fair while off yet....
Probably worth getting the IVA manual now so that anything needed for the test can be incorporated in the build.

Dankelley

Original Poster:

19 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Already have the manual for my other build smile

832ark

1,226 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Happy days! I reckon there's quite a few people doing things like this and finding themselves in a world of hurt trying to get them registered correctly.

griffin dai

3,201 posts

149 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Are you still going with 2 b204's?

Worth registering here if you haven't yet-

www.uksaabs.co.uk

Dankelley

Original Poster:

19 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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He is indeed... already a member on there we have chatted before I'm doing the kit car with b204 in and sequencial turbos I was looking at VGT previously

griffin dai

3,201 posts

149 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Dankelley said:
He is indeed... already a member on there we have chatted before I'm doing the kit car with b204 in and sequencial turbos I was looking at VGT previously
wavey

Sorry mate didn't realise it was you. Did you get the VGT in the end? That HE451ve I sold was HUGE!!! Weighed 26kgs & dwarfed my gt3076r!! Monster turbo! I think it's on a old BMW 5 series now in Bosnia!!

marcgti6

1,340 posts

213 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Mental. Seriously impressive fabrication skills!

Shall look forward to updates smile

Dankelley

Original Poster:

19 posts

112 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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griffin dai said:
wavey

Sorry mate didn't realise it was you. Did you get the VGT in the end? That HE451ve I sold was HUGE!!! Weighed 26kgs & dwarfed my gt3076r!! Monster turbo! I think it's on a old BMW 5 series now in Bosnia!!
I decided I would make a sequential turbo system as it was a lighter solution and will be virtually free with old hardware I have laying around.

mighty kitten

431 posts

133 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Interesting project but i don't see any positives adding another engine . No torque control between axles plus packaging a cooling package for both engines that actually works is going to be a nightmare . Ive run twin engines and monitoring what both are doing and synching controls just takes away from the fun of driving for me .

Dankelley

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19 posts

112 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Hi Froggy (presume it's you?) Lots of torque, 4wd and a challenge to get to work well... a single engine and 4wd would obviously be simpler but where is the fun in that.
Controlling both should be simple enough, throttles will be linked, clutch will be linked, gear selectors will be linked so it should be much like driving any other big hp 4wd car.... we shall see smile

mighty kitten

431 posts

133 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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The problem is despite synchronising throttles etc you have no control over wheel speed so the front will be spinning its tits off as you launch and the inside front will spin as you have a lot of traction at the rear . Not as big an issue going down the box but shifting up with the front engine bouncing off the limiter in the first three gears with the rear engine at a substantially lower rpm .
The twin bike engined tiger ended up running a trick motec system to try and control wheelspin but it didn't fully solve the car trying to swap ends round corners .
In practise you can only use the power that the front wheels can cope with as the mechanical grip at the rear will allow the front to lift even more making the issue worse plus the only solution is to lift off .
Don't get me wrong I've seen these creations get down the strip without problems but for a road or track use there's a lot of hurdles to mount .
There is a mini clubby estate floating round with a pair of red top vx motors in that went over to auto boxes to solve a lot of driveability issues . He has a web site Somewhere with lots of build details and diary

Dankelley

Original Poster:

19 posts

112 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Fair points certainly.... if it is an issue I'm sure I can work something out with a pair of race logic traction controls... we like a challenge smile

mighty kitten

431 posts

133 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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The journey is sometimes more fun than the destination . I lost count of all the hours and fab work that went in the bin when I did my twin charged build or the big Vgt Holset but would still do it all again

Dankelley

Original Poster:

19 posts

112 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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mighty kitten said:
The journey is sometimes more fun than the destination . I lost count of all the hours and fab work that went in the bin when I did my twin charged build or the big Vgt Holset but would still do it all again
Indeed it's all a good learning experience... and beats watching TV especially given the top gear situation.

mighty kitten

431 posts

133 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Thinking about it you could use a complete abs system so you have measured wheel speed and what would have been the outputs to the shuttle valves could be used to trigger something perhaps a valve that shuts the vent port on the apc valve so it lowers boost ??