1999 Saab 9-3 Viggen Turbo Convertible

1999 Saab 9-3 Viggen Turbo Convertible

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SebringMan

1,773 posts

186 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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When my dad owned a 9-3 2.0 HOT of this shape I did used to like these things, despite them being ridiculed. However, after sitting and driving in them, you do begin to wonder why Saab went bust.

Have fun with this smile.

TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Went to the workshop today as I thought the Saab would be on a ramp and I wanted to have a look underneath. There are no horror stories, it has had a little bit of welding in the past but all the floorplan and chassis rails are solid and it just needs some rubbing down and paint to keep the rust at bay.

Anyone from my Shogun thread will know just how much I enjoy dealing with rust so I will be returning to the workshop, wire brush & Hydrate 80 in hand. The rear axle was dropped while I was there to remove the old yellow Apex springs and the offside rear top spring mount had started to rust and expand so that was cut off; it will be repaired and welded back to the rail to sit flush.





The Viggen has been quite bouncy and crashing over broken up roads and you can see from the photo the old Apex and new green Abbott springs, although the height was little different it was the compression that was most marked; you could hardly move the green spring but the yellow could be pushed down a little way by hand quite easily. This lack of compression is what will raise the Viggen back up and it will be very interesting to see how these springs and the new Koni dampers work once it is all back together.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 13th March 2015
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How much lower than standard did the Apex springs lower the car? Looks v low in the pictures and the ground clearance with the front bumper and skirts isn't great even on standard suspension.

TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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We think the Apex springs are a fairly huge 40mm drop, you can see the difference below.



The rose-jointed gear linkage has arrived too.


TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Front sub-frame is out so that the new brace and bushes can be fitted.



TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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A few extra pictures taken by the workshop today. Seem to be having an 80's disco going on underneath.




TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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The bump stops were the last two in stock at Saab!

TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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The sub-frame bushes have all been replaced, they were really difficult to get out as they have a stainless steel band around them and the front struts have been painted with Hydrate 80 and the new springs fitted.





New brakes lines have had to go in as the old ones were corroded and the braided hoses have been fitted; new discs have been sourced and they are going to be grooved as this was OE specification.

griffin dai

3,201 posts

149 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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Lovely Viggen there!! You'll notice a hell of a difference with the suspension mods, not a Viggen but I had a LPT vert a couple years ago and did a fair bit to the handling side....made a BIG improvement and it needed it even with just a stage 1 map! Really wanted to take things further like my 9000 but swapped it for the v6 instead.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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griffin dai said:
Lovely Viggen there!! You'll notice a hell of a difference with the suspension mods, not a Viggen but I had a LPT vert a couple years ago and did a fair bit to the handling side....made a BIG improvement and it needed it even with just a stage 1 map! Really wanted to take things further like my 9000 but swapped it for the v6 instead.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Good read. Interesting that even after performing all the chassis mods you still weren't that impressed with the handling.

ruggedscotty

5,625 posts

209 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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I think those that have an interest in cars tend to have a soft spot for saabs - My brother had a viggen in monte carlo yellow got it new from the saab dealer in Ayr and had it for a while. It was a great car indeed - one of those that sticks in the mind. And it was fast. Very fast indeed. He had it a few years back in 2000 and then it was sold on. Never got a shot in it but managed to bag a drive in another one and that was superb. Would have loved that car indeed.

He had the rescue kit installed. Had to as the bulkhead would split otherwise.

griffin dai

3,201 posts

149 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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St John Smythe said:
Good read. Interesting that even after performing all the chassis mods you still weren't that impressed with the handling.
No it was pretty good after a few weeks and a few hundreds miles later once it all settled down. Still not a patch on the 9-3ss through even in standard form, jump from one straight into the other and the difference in handling is massive, but the handling mods definitely made a nice difference and imo these really need a few quid thrown at them here.

Not sure if yove got a thicker rear Arb fitted but a cheap/effective mod is just double up with another standard bar, the 22mm bars are hard to source so if one does pop up on ebay/forums I'd snap it up!!

TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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ruggedscotty said:

Viggen in monte carlo yellow
I like my blue but that is yellow is superb. An old family friend, had two Monte Carlo Yellow Saab Convertibles years ago, a 900 and 9-3 but he never seemed to drive them! Sadly, they are long gone now.

ruggedscotty said:
He had the rescue kit installed. Had to as the bulkhead would split otherwise.
One of the few things I did right when buying the Viggen was to run the steering from lock to lock to check whether the bulkhead was cracked.



TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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griffin dai said:
The handling mods definitely made a nice difference and IMO these really need a few quid thrown at them here.

Not sure if yove got a thicker rear Arb fitted but a cheap/effective mod is just double up with another standard bar, the 22mm bars are hard to source so if one does pop up on ebay/forums I'd snap it up!!
I sourced all of the chassis mods from Abbott which included their rear ARB as I wanted to get everything delivered together and was quite keen to get the Viggen on a ramp just the once and back on the road!

I enjoyed your thread on your 9-3 'vert and all the work you put into it yourself; like you & many others I seem to have got the Saab 'bug'.

The Viggen is booked in for MOT on Wednesday so fingers crossed it will all be done. Will have to give it a polish (don't laugh Scott!) and take some decent photo's.

griffin dai

3,201 posts

149 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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TurboBlue said:
I enjoyed your thread on your 9-3 'vert and all the work you put into it yourself; like you & many others I seem to have got the Saab 'bug'.
It gets bad trust me!! I'm on my 6th now and probably go for a 9-3 v6 wagon next (auto...torque MONSTER!!) wink

Wait till you start upping the power! You should be able to get around 320hp out of yours with just a 3"DP, 3.5bar FPR and remap.....I'd add an IC aswel though. Chinese ones off ebay work a treat and I think £65/70 should get you one. Or I think PFS do a drop in IC pretty cheap smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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griffin dai said:
St John Smythe said:
Good read. Interesting that even after performing all the chassis mods you still weren't that impressed with the handling.
No it was pretty good after a few weeks and a few hundreds miles later once it all settled down. Still not a patch on the 9-3ss through even in standard form, jump from one straight into the other and the difference in handling is massive, but the handling mods definitely made a nice difference and imo these really need a few quid thrown at them here.

Not sure if yove got a thicker rear Arb fitted but a cheap/effective mod is just double up with another standard bar, the 22mm bars are hard to source so if one does pop up on ebay/forums I'd snap it up!!
Get my 9-3 Aero back end of the week with new suspension and steering rack brace fitted. Fingers crossed it's a good improvement (old shocks were totally knackered) however I know that even the later 9-3ss wasn't exactly known for great handling!

TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Almost there. Viggen back on it's wheels and at a far more sensible height.




TurboBlue

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672 posts

163 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Viggen is back. It has been transformed and has a deftness to the ride that was not there before. I'll post up all the work undertaken once I've got all the paperwork together but for the time being quite a lot of photo's follow.














Shadow R1

3,799 posts

176 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Looks great. smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Got my Aero back yesterday and very happy indeed. New suspension has made a world of difference and the steering rack brace has made the front of the car feel noticeably tighter.

Garage had problems fitting the Hirsch exhaust as the bore on the pipe was too large to connect. Sending back for a refund as advertised for Aero and Viggen models.

Went for an Abbott Racing exhaust instead. Sounds very nice. Nice burble at idle and opens up nicely higher up the rev range. But importantly isn't that loud around town so doesn't sound like a barried up Corsa!

TDC Saab in St Albans did the work so would recommend.