The "66 El Camino that I finally own" Thread

The "66 El Camino that I finally own" Thread

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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v8.jimmy said:
sorry, I don't have a clear wall in my garage
It doesn't have to be YOUR wall. Any wall will do.

v8.jimmy said:
it's still guesswork if they are too high or too low unless you are doing that every day and know exactly what is right.
Pull close up to the wall. Mark the height of the light on the wall. Back up a car length. The beam should be slightly below that centre height.

v8.jimmy said:
I have done it with a sheet of ply in front of a car
There y'go, then. Don't even need a wall.

v8.jimmy said:
but it's still guesswork
Yes, it's guesswork. Of course it is. But it's more than good enough to be the difference between a pass and a fail. If you find the beam's too low or too high when you're actually driving it, you can then fine tune it. Let's face it, most testers will only fail beams that are WAAAAY out anyway.

v8.jimmy

44 posts

105 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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gotta love these guys....................
flawed at the start, you can't legally drive it anywhere other than straight to the test station for first MOT as it isn't registered, so unless you go at night which is a no, but suppose could wait till winter, and unless you can stop at a wall en route.
p.s. only been in the trade for 35 years, so obviously I know absolutely nothing at all. I love the way keyboard experts on forums like to dig people up for the smallest thing they might say, just shows some people have too much time rather than too many cars

and on your last point, a fail is a fail, and back to my original point which has obviously been taken WAAAY............ out of context, a good working relationship with an MOT tester often yields the opportunity to DO IT RIGHT............... though I appreciate not always, but when possible is better than going back and adjusting after you drive at night and notice that lights are either showing you the front bumper or blinding somebody, but then again, why take the easiest and most sensible route. So, to recap, you don't have a beam setter and if you don't have a wall, you can always go buy a sheet of ply.LOL

Anyways this kind of crap is taking away from the OPs thread about his truck, so let's get back to that but I think I'll butt out now and just e-mail him from now on.

Edited by v8.jimmy on Monday 31st August 10:45


Edited by v8.jimmy on Monday 31st August 10:58


Edited by v8.jimmy on Monday 31st August 11:00

jagracer

8,248 posts

236 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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v8.jimmy said:
jagracer said:
assume from the reg it is pre 65 which means you could have left it as it was.
It isn't registered yet................
Well somehow I missed the first ten pages of this thread last night so apologies and that'll teach me to butt in when I've been drinking.

99t said:
Where it says 'Body by Fisher', does that mean Chevrolet didn't manufacture the bodies? Got the same thing on my Bel Air although the car was made in St Louis.
As for the headlight adjustment, I always do it for the customer unless the car fails miserably on other stuff and even then we do them on the retest.



Edited by jagracer on Monday 31st August 11:41

smileymikey

1,446 posts

226 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
v8.jimmy said:
sorry, I don't have a clear wall in my garage
It doesn't have to be YOUR wall. Any wall will do.

v8.jimmy said:
it's still guesswork if they are too high or too low unless you are doing that every day and know exactly what is right.
Pull close up to the wall. Mark the height of the light on the wall. Back up a car length. The beam should be slightly below that centre height.

v8.jimmy said:
I have done it with a sheet of ply in front of a car
There y'go, then. Don't even need a wall.

v8.jimmy said:
but it's still guesswork
Yes, it's guesswork. Of course it is. But it's more than good enough to be the difference between a pass and a fail. If you find the beam's too low or too high when you're actually driving it, you can then fine tune it. Let's face it, most testers will only fail beams that are WAAAAY out anyway.

v8.jimmy

44 posts

105 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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jagracer said:
here it says 'Body by Fisher', does that mean Chevrolet didn't manufacture the bodies? Got the same thing on my Bel Air although the car was made in St Louis.
As for the headlight adjustment, I always do it for the customer unless the car fails miserably on other stuff and even then we do them on the retest.



Edited by jagracer on Monday 31st August 11:41
yes mate, body by Fisher on this and also on your BelAir (what year by the way? my wife has a '57, owned it for 22 years) as Fisher is/was the body division of General Motors, fully owned by GM.
well done on the lights thing too, my bro also does exactly what you said, either on first test if it doesn't fail on other things, or at retest. Problem with these older vehicles is of course that the headlight trims and often part of the grille has to be removed to get at the adjusters, so the station I use tends to chuck me a screwdriver while he looks over other parts.

jagracer

8,248 posts

236 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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v8.jimmy said:
yes mate, body by Fisher on this and also on your BelAir (what year by the way? my wife has a '57, owned it for 22 years) as Fisher is/was the body division of General Motors, fully owned by GM.
Thanks for the reply, it's a 1955, I've had it a year and bought it from my cousin who I think owned for about 20 years, it was imported from Texas around 1997. Luckily for me my wife wont drive it as it's too big for her but she does have a 69 MGB as her fine weather runaround

99t

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

209 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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I said:
Failure list:-

Front tyres
Battery insecure (I had forgotten to refit the clamp which was happily sitting on the workbench in the garage! whistle )
Headlight aim low (I had forgotten to check the aim after fitting the new ones! boxedin )
It's been a slightly frustrating seven days waiting for new tyres to arrive, but I have finally had an email saying they've been delivered smile

The El Camino had 14" x 8" rallye rims on the front and 15" x 9" on the rear, and I felt this made the front look a little under-wheeled.

I have thus swapped the front rims with my Camaro project since it isn't going to be needing them any time soon. These are 15" x 8" in the same offset so should improve the looks without causing any clearance issues and have now been blasted and powder coated ready for the tyres...

imagineifyeswill

1,226 posts

166 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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To set headlights accurately against a wall you need to measure the height of the headlight centre and mark and that on the wall then set the lights with the vehicle 25ft from the wall.

M3ax

1,291 posts

212 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Damn. I wanted an update on the nice El Camino but the thread is full of headlight debate! Typical PH smile

99t

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

209 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Back in for the re-test today, tyres are no longer tired, battery is clamped and headlight aim - well let's not even go there!!! wink

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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An elk just like yours had 2 minutes on "Desert car kings" last night.
On Quest.

Steve_W

1,494 posts

177 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Come on man - you can't tease us like this, did it pass and are you smoking around in it looking smug? smile

Actually, that may be why there's no "it passed!" post yet - too busy cruising

99t

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

209 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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I won't know until I go back to pick it up at 5pm!

Sadly there will be no cruising tonight, once I've got a ticket in my sticky mits, I need to send it and various other bits of paperwork off to DVLA and then wait some more for them to issue a registration....

I may not take the absolute most direct route back from the MOT station however!! smile

99t

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

209 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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...and we have an MOT! biggrin

M3ax

1,291 posts

212 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Congrats! Now the fun really begins

v8.jimmy

44 posts

105 months

Saturday 12th September 2015
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hey hey well done and I hope the MOT tester used his garage wall for the headlights and not that daft beam setter most use LOL.
Just had some V5s back from Swansea, one missing, one rejected because it requires a covering letter WHICH WAS SENT WITH IT, tossers and one which came back with 2000cc for the engine size FFS not on a yank!! Total incompetence from DVLA once again, however 2 out of 5 ain't bad........
You should be cruisin next weekend mate......

johnnyBv8

2,417 posts

191 months

Saturday 12th September 2015
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v8.jimmy said:
hey hey well done and I hope the MOT tester used his garage wall for the headlights and not that daft beam setter most use LOL.
For god's sake... let it go!

Congrats OP on getting the MOT. It was a pretty short list to start off with - hopefully a good sign. Looking forward to seeing the updates once it's back on the road!

v8.jimmy

44 posts

105 months

Sunday 13th September 2015
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[quote=johnnyBv8]

For god's sake... let it go!

It's a fking joke, do you remember what one of them is, and by the way I didn't start the st about the lights, the 2cv guy did....

johnnyBv8

2,417 posts

191 months

Sunday 13th September 2015
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v8.jimmy said:
It's a fking joke, do you remember what one of them is, and by the way I didn't start the st about the lights, the 2cv guy did....
Oooooookay laugh

99t

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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We have a logbook!! biggrin

Off to get number plates made up...