The "66 El Camino that I finally own" Thread
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Hopefully Jim won't mind me pinching this picture of an earlier shipment from his Facebook page, gives an idea how it is achieved...
I'm not worried, but I'll be glad when it is out in one piece!!
Meanwhile, Seaboard Patriot has spend the last 24 hours or so moving from dock to dock at Antwerp, including the very one that Romulus was moored at yesterday
She's now on her way to Rotterdam
I'm not worried, but I'll be glad when it is out in one piece!!
Meanwhile, Seaboard Patriot has spend the last 24 hours or so moving from dock to dock at Antwerp, including the very one that Romulus was moored at yesterday
She's now on her way to Rotterdam
we've had 2 containers with 4 vehicles in them.
'41 Ford Coupe
'67 Ford Cortina V8
'67 Ford Fairlane Coupe
'56 Chevy BelAir sedan.
The other had:
'77 Ford Ranchero
'69 Ford Ranchero
'57 Chevy BelAir sedan
'87 Corvette.
Now that was tight to get out, must have been fun putting them in
we also had:
'39 Ford cabover lorry chassis-cab
'50 GMC artic unit
'58 Dodge long wheelbase flatbed
That was really tight. Soz, I can't seem to post pics.
These are high cube 40 footers, would be better if they were 45 footers, but they ain't allowed in California for some reason
'41 Ford Coupe
'67 Ford Cortina V8
'67 Ford Fairlane Coupe
'56 Chevy BelAir sedan.
The other had:
'77 Ford Ranchero
'69 Ford Ranchero
'57 Chevy BelAir sedan
'87 Corvette.
Now that was tight to get out, must have been fun putting them in
we also had:
'39 Ford cabover lorry chassis-cab
'50 GMC artic unit
'58 Dodge long wheelbase flatbed
That was really tight. Soz, I can't seem to post pics.
These are high cube 40 footers, would be better if they were 45 footers, but they ain't allowed in California for some reason
Edited by v8.jimmy on Friday 24th July 23:12
v8.jimmy said:
These are high cube 40 footers, would be better if they were 45 footers, but they ain't allowed in California for some reason
I had a google to see if it would be explained simply... nope.Edited by v8.jimmy on Friday 24th July 23:12
Look at this mess.
I think the trucks from out-of-state are allowed up to 53 ft trailers as long as the kingpin-to-rear-axle is no more than 40 feet, unless their trailers are <48 ft in which case the kingpin-to-rear-axle length is not limited... maximum train length isn't regulated (unlike EU trucks) to allow for vast sleeper cabs and these aren't expected to be doing confined-roads work.
And then CA registered trucks have to fit within 65 total length with a KPRA of <= 40 ft, so I imagine they push the tractor unit to the maximum length possible, forcing the container to be the same as the KPRA (40 feet) to fit within regs, meaning that no-one in California is able to take anything bigger than 40 feet...
I can't see anywhere that bans longer containers, but with regs that complex, who knows?
Nope, worse than that. 
The STAA trucks are the Federal sizes. They're allowed on the interstates and a lot of the bigger freeways, as well as for access to the ports. They're designed for an up to 53' shipping container (those are available in the US).
Now, the California Black trucks are the state standard, which is completely different. As it'll work out a little bit shorter than the STAA sizes, they're allowed on most roads, but because of the overall limit on length you'd struggle with the larger container sizes.
So the 45', 48' and 53' aren't banned, they're just hard to get to anywhere apart from a distribution depot on an interstate.
And that's before you start talking about the bridges...
The STAA trucks are the Federal sizes. They're allowed on the interstates and a lot of the bigger freeways, as well as for access to the ports. They're designed for an up to 53' shipping container (those are available in the US).
Now, the California Black trucks are the state standard, which is completely different. As it'll work out a little bit shorter than the STAA sizes, they're allowed on most roads, but because of the overall limit on length you'd struggle with the larger container sizes.
So the 45', 48' and 53' aren't banned, they're just hard to get to anywhere apart from a distribution depot on an interstate.
And that's before you start talking about the bridges...
davepoth said:
Nope, worse than that.
The STAA trucks are the Federal sizes. They're allowed on the interstates and a lot of the bigger freeways, as well as for access to the ports. They're designed for an up to 53' shipping container (those are available in the US).
Now, the California Black trucks are the state standard, which is completely different. As it'll work out a little bit shorter than the STAA sizes, they're allowed on most roads, but because of the overall limit on length you'd struggle with the larger container sizes.
So the 45', 48' and 53' aren't banned, they're just hard to get to anywhere apart from a distribution depot on an interstate.
And that's before you start talking about the bridges...
They are effectively banned then............... Let's chose my words better, they don't ship over 40foot containers for whatever reasonThe STAA trucks are the Federal sizes. They're allowed on the interstates and a lot of the bigger freeways, as well as for access to the ports. They're designed for an up to 53' shipping container (those are available in the US).
Now, the California Black trucks are the state standard, which is completely different. As it'll work out a little bit shorter than the STAA sizes, they're allowed on most roads, but because of the overall limit on length you'd struggle with the larger container sizes.
So the 45', 48' and 53' aren't banned, they're just hard to get to anywhere apart from a distribution depot on an interstate.
And that's before you start talking about the bridges...
btw, all this container info is useful and interesting. Biggest we have in the UK is 45 feet, but with the amount of 50ft trailer the likes of ASDA are running, I think it's only a matter of time till the 48 footers appear here. Wish we could get 45s from california, you'd be amazed at the times an extra foot or so would have made the difference. We just got beaten by about 18 inches on the most recent load and had to substitute one vehicle for another.
v8.jimmy said:
btw, all this container info is useful and interesting. Biggest we have in the UK is 45 feet, but with the amount of 50ft trailer the likes of ASDA are running, I think it's only a matter of time till the 48 footers appear here. Wish we could get 45s from california, you'd be amazed at the times an extra foot or so would have made the difference. We just got beaten by about 18 inches on the most recent load and had to substitute one vehicle for another.
it's amazing how small a 40 ft container looks on a 53 foot US spec trailer
vs European
Edited by skyrover on Saturday 25th July 11:45
v8.jimmy said:
They are effectively banned then............... Let's chose my words better, they don't ship over 40foot containers for whatever reason
I'm quite surprised by that. You'll be limited as to where you can load and unload them within California, but 45' boxes are fast becoming an international standard. All the big shipping lines will move them without too much hassle in my experience, although sometimes you might have to book a little bit in advance. 
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