Audi S5...my first V8

Audi S5...my first V8

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TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Shame about the idiot, but at least it will get sorted.

Those power figures look low? I thought these were 340 ps standard? the graph makes it look like yours was 313 ps standard and 337 ps tuned?

ETA, standard is 350 bhp

Edited by TheAngryDog on Sunday 27th September 10:50

philmots

4,631 posts

261 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Is it power at the wheels?

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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philmots said:
Is it power at the wheels?
Graph shows it at engine power. Power at the wheels it shows as in the 200's.

Captainawesome

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1,817 posts

164 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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TheAngryDog said:
Shame about the idiot, but at least it will get sorted.

Those power figures look low? I thought these were 340 ps standard? the graph makes it look like yours was 313 ps standard and 337 ps tuned?

ETA, standard is 350 bhp

Edited by TheAngryDog on Sunday 27th September 10:50
Apparently the ECU had already been flashed but with quite a poor map. I suspect there are a few reasons for the low power output......Audi are known to be 'optimistic' sometimes with official power figures, it's an 8 year old engine, more than likely needs to be de-coked and possibly a more realistic dyno (one of the other guys there that day having work done said that the figures he got on the first power run of the day were lower than the previous dyno he had done, however he left with a huge grin after the MRC guys had worked their voodoo).

When I had my old M3 mapped the first power run produced 327bhp, compared to an official figure of 343bhp. The car had only done 40k and been immaculately cared for. Some cars appear to have higher real world outputs and some lower than official figures.

I thought it was a bit low too but it certainly feels quick enough for me. For now....... evil

IanH755

1,861 posts

121 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Audi FSi engines are awful for coking up and strangling the power. Looking at the hundreds of B7 RS4's (same engine issues) MRC have de-coked and mapped I'd say get it de-coked and de-flapped (manifold flap) as soon as you can, you should make 40hp+ easily.

aspirated

2,539 posts

147 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Very classy spec. Don't suppose you could post up the dash cam footage? It sounds interesting..

Also a 2011+ facelift taillight upgrade would really freshen up the rear for not much money

Captainawesome

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1,817 posts

164 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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IanH755 said:
Audi FSi engines are awful for coking up and strangling the power. Looking at the hundreds of B7 RS4's (same engine issues) MRC have de-coked and mapped I'd say get it de-coked and de-flapped (manifold flap) as soon as you can, you should make 40hp+ easily.
Exactly what MRC said to me and it's next on the list.

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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I didn't think that the normal 4.2 suffered this issue? I only ever see it mentioned about the RS4 4.2 engine. Learn something new every day

hman

7,487 posts

195 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Any fsi audi is prone to coking up, and according to der internetz the non turbo FSI's are particularly prone to it.

Catch cans etc dont work, as its the valve overlap which causes the carbon build up. normally CEL lights and slight misfires are the obvious giveaways of this.

I have a CALA engine code 3.2 v6 on 45000 miles and I will be taking a peak in there soon to see whats occurring..


Q. The non-resonated exhaust, is it an X, H, or dual pipe??

TonyTony

1,880 posts

159 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Nice!

Lucky to have a witness and footage to the crash otherwise it would have gone 50/50.

Is the map and exhaust on insurance? smile

Captainawesome

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1,817 posts

164 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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TonyTony said:
Nice!

Lucky to have a witness and footage to the crash otherwise it would have gone 50/50.

Is the map and exhaust on insurance? smile
Of course.....not daft enough to not declare. Usually mods don't affect my insurance....they just say that the expensive bits aren't covered. Hence when I hit the deer my M3 it hit the right side. .....protect the airbox was my slow motion thought.

Captainawesome

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1,817 posts

164 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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hman said:
Any fsi audi is prone to coking up, and according to der internetz the non turbo FSI's are particularly prone to it.

Catch cans etc dont work, as its the valve overlap which causes the carbon build up. normally CEL lights and slight misfires are the obvious giveaways of this.

I have a CALA engine code 3.2 v6 on 45000 miles and I will be taking a peak in there soon to see whats occurring..


Q. The non-resonated exhaust, is it an X, H, or dual pipe??
X, h or dual???? You've lost me there bud. No options given....ttrusted the mrc wizards. Cannot recommend the system enough though....just done 550 miles in it and when cruising on the motorway it's near silent......can be made to be very noisy on demand though. 😉

hman

7,487 posts

195 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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I had a look on their website - its an H- Pipe (joiner pipe welded between the two pipes to connect them)

Mine is currently straight through - no H and it is LOUD. will get an H welded in I think.

liner33

10,692 posts

203 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Interesting that when they mapped it the drivetrain losses went down ?


Looks like a cracking car

Sushifiend

5,214 posts

138 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Very nice car. I'm more of a BMW fan but the hot Audis with street presence and the classic quattros do send a shiver down my spine. I'd also love to see the dashcam footage if you can upload it!


DanGPR

989 posts

172 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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liner33 said:
Interesting that when they mapped it the drivetrain losses went down ?


Looks like a cracking car
Might be related to the peak power/torque being made at slightly lower RPM?

Sushifiend

5,214 posts

138 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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DanGPR said:
liner33 said:
Interesting that when they mapped it the drivetrain losses went down ?


Looks like a cracking car
Might be related to the peak power/torque being made at slightly lower RPM?
There's only so accurate a dynamometer can be, and many are not that accurate at all. Calculating driveline losses is pretty much a guessing game as they vary for every vehicle. Much more useful as a group or before/after comparison tool than an absolute metric.

TonyTony

1,880 posts

159 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Captainawesome said:
Of course.....not daft enough to not declare. Usually mods don't affect my insurance....they just say that the expensive bits aren't covered. Hence when I hit the deer my M3 it hit the right side. .....protect the airbox was my slow motion thought.
My insurance said a Milltek cat-back would be free because of no power gain but a map would cost. Would be better if cost of parts could be covered on your insurance as well though incase of them getting damaged.

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

189 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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Shame about the incident. Hope it gets resolved quickly.

Always thought these cars had great lines. They tend to look quite 'bulky' in pictures but are genuinely smaller in reality - I think by virtue of their big lights front and rear. I'll forever be nervous of them especially in this colour though - as an old boss of mine used to drive one and its' presence at the office meant we had to spend time with the a**hole!

Captainawesome

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1,817 posts

164 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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A wee video of what she sounds like now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edhtLP_XoGc&fe...