Capri GTT... V10, 550bhp

[chuntington101]

andygtt said:

chuntington101 said:

So it has three (3) additional electric pumps? 2 for scavenging from the heads (one each side) and one for pressurising the Vanos system on start up?

Great if its all working I guess.

Yep, arguably I could be stepping down going to a dry sump as Im not going to out corner the existing sump system.

But you could add an extra stage or two to scav from the heads. Or just use the dry sump to help get the engine high down and keep the three 'lecy pumps for the heads and vanos system?

[andygtt]

True, but then the other 'issue' is that I need a steering rack which will have to go under the engine as I don't think i could move the engine back far enough to go in front of it.
I would then need to look at the box to see if thats a deciding factor in the height of the engine as thats pretty low slung as well as BMW kept the weight as low as possible.

I think I have made a design decision that the current stance is as it will be.

[TroubledSoul]

andygtt said:

I'd do it soon as capri prices seem to be going up fast for some reason.

We currently have 4 cars and one of those is an M3 project so no chance anytime soon!

Prices are going up because it's an old Ford with a bit of a following. Same as the other buggers. It's funny because people have slagged Fords off since time began, yet have then fallen over themselves for them once they've become classics.

[andygtt]

TroubledSoul said:

andygtt said:

I'd do it soon as capri prices seem to be going up fast for some reason.

We currently have 4 cars and one of those is an M3 project so no chance anytime soon!

Prices are going up because it's an old Ford with a bit of a following. Same as the other buggers. It's funny because people have slagged Fords off since time began, yet have then fallen over themselves for them once they've become classics.

Sold my M3 Evo a couple of years ago... it had been off the road for a few years and just been used for track days with 170k it was tired lol...

I have been forced to reduce my fleet by my now wife... so Im down to 7 including my wives car lol
Of cause one of them is the M5 I'm breaking and also the GTT which is now in storage.

It is amazing the way old fords are being appreciated more in their old age... but even back in the day I always loved the shape of the capri

[TroubledSoul]

Ah me too. My Evo has 150k so it will be getting new ARP rod bolts before any serious abuse, plus obviously all the usual servicing on top of any upgrades. Debating doing all the Vanos seals etc. too... How long it lasts, well we'll see!

Always, always had a soft spot for Capris since I was a child. I grew up on a council estate, and they were always very plentiful and popular!

[andygtt]

not a huge amount of progress, been doing some boring stuff like welding up the rear wheel archers ready for me to bond the rear arches on.

I did spend a little time on the roof as I welded up the sunroof... Im not that experienced at bodywork so I primed it and then painted it glodd black so I could see the inperfectations better and establish how close I was.





its not 100% perfect, but its not going to need much to finish so Im pretty pleased.... not long till I can start making moulds

Edited by andygtt on Tuesday 27th March 12:47

[Polarbert]

This looks absolutely fantastic.

Did you buy the M5 flood damaged or did it happen during your ownership? Do you have any more pics of that?

[andygtt]

Polarbert said:

This looks absolutely fantastic.

Did you buy the M5 flood damaged or did it happen during your ownership? Do you have any more pics of that?

Happened during my ownership... went to a specialist with an SMG issue, was diagnosed as a fortune to fix and I couldn't justify it at the time so I paid the £400ish bill and they delivered it back. Sat untouched on my drive for 3mths and when I eventually looked at it I found they had left the fuse box cover off under the bonnet (a 30 second fit max) and rain had flowed off the screen under the bonnet straight into the fuse box were the engine and gearbox ecu was and had filled the car 6 inches with water on the passenger side.
They told me to F off and I didn't pursue it... I spent 2k trying to fix the flood damage, second hand ecu's, new engine wiring loom etc and fixed the issue they diagnosed... only to find that they were wrong and it was a different issues so just as well I didn't pay them to fix it originally.
Im was a little bitter about it lol

It was a few years back now and fortunately I have a use for the M5 even in death

[warsteiner///M3]

what model is your 'm3 project' andy ?

[confucuis]

My reaction when I see this thread has an update

[andygtt]

warsteiner///M3 said:

what model is your 'm3 project' andy ?

I don't have an M3 project.... I used to have an E36 M3 evo which I ran into the ground and sold a few years back but never really played with it

[ya_bollox]

pity about the clearance issues but I can see why you want it to work with this engine, shall be pretty epic,

think I remember this in the mag, looks clean for a Capri, that focus windbreaker was horrendous

I wonder would you be wanting to put the v6 reinforcements in if your not changing the front legs much.. double-skin turret tops, turret triangulation on inner-wing, double-skin + stiffener on chassis legs + struts and rear corners of engine-bay,

the Essex is about 180kg's your BM brute is 240kg's (google said so)

I can usually spot re-shelled/converted 4cyl-v6 capris by cracks on inner wings and lack of above

I love capris but they aren't the stiffest of shells so might be worth it

[Polarbert]

andygtt said:

Polarbert said:

This looks absolutely fantastic.

Did you buy the M5 flood damaged or did it happen during your ownership? Do you have any more pics of that?

Happened during my ownership... went to a specialist with an SMG issue, was diagnosed as a fortune to fix and I couldn't justify it at the time so I paid the £400ish bill and they delivered it back. Sat untouched on my drive for 3mths and when I eventually looked at it I found they had left the fuse box cover off under the bonnet (a 30 second fit max) and rain had flowed off the screen under the bonnet straight into the fuse box were the engine and gearbox ecu was and had filled the car 6 inches with water on the passenger side.
They told me to F off and I didn't pursue it... I spent 2k trying to fix the flood damage, second hand ecu's, new engine wiring loom etc and fixed the issue they diagnosed... only to find that they were wrong and it was a different issues so just as well I didn't pay them to fix it originally.
Im was a little bitter about it lol

It was a few years back now and fortunately I have a use for the M5 even in death

Thats a terrible shame. At least the engine will live on. Is the rest of the car in good shape?


What ever happened to your mid-engined project? Used to love reading about that.

[andygtt]

ya_bks said:

pity about the clearance issues but I can see why you want it to work with this engine, shall be pretty epic,

think I remember this in the mag, looks clean for a Capri, that focus windbreaker was horrendous

I wonder would you be wanting to put the v6 reinforcements in if your not changing the front legs much.. double-skin turret tops, turret triangulation on inner-wing, double-skin + stiffener on chassis legs + struts and rear corners of engine-bay,

the Essex is about 180kg's your BM brute is 240kg's (google said so)

I can usually spot re-shelled/converted 4cyl-v6 capris by cracks on inner wings and lack of above

I love capris but they aren't the stiffest of shells so might be worth it

I bought the strengthening panels you refer to along with a full weld in cage so I could do exactly as you suggest... However I have decided not to use the Capri shell at all and make my own entire chassis and suspension from scratch and cloth it carbon fibre panels made from this donor Capri.
It's a very very solid car so I am loath to cut it to pieces to donate to my project so I'm using it as mock up and to take moulds and dimensions from.... Still going to prep this car properly and get rid of the rust I have found (due to dogged prior repairs it seems).

[andygtt]

Polarbert said:

What ever happened to your mid-engined project? Used to love reading about that.

I built a giant crate in the garden and have put it away for a while

[Usget]

Bookmarked!

[Baron Greenback]

andygtt said:

I bought the strengthening panels you refer to along with a full weld in cage so I could do exactly as you suggest... However I have decided not to use the Capri shell at all and make my own entire chassis and suspension from scratch and cloth it carbon fibre panels made from this donor Capri.
It's a very very solid car so I am loath to cut it to pieces to donate to my project so I'm using it as mock up and to take moulds and dimensions from.... Still going to prep this car properly and get rid of the rust I have found (due to dogged prior repairs it seems).

Awesome but how are you not ending up with a Q plate as I thought you want orig number plate with this beast?

[McSam]

Please for the love of God read the last five pages debating the identity of the car before asking questions that were answered many times over already, or it'll end up full of beardy technicalities instead of awesome lunacy.

[andygtt]

Baron Greenback said:

andygtt said:

I bought the strengthening panels you refer to along with a full weld in cage so I could do exactly as you suggest... However I have decided not to use the Capri shell at all and make my own entire chassis and suspension from scratch and cloth it carbon fibre panels made from this donor Capri.
It's a very very solid car so I am loath to cut it to pieces to donate to my project so I'm using it as mock up and to take moulds and dimensions from.... Still going to prep this car properly and get rid of the rust I have found (due to dogged prior repairs it seems).

Awesome but how are you not ending up with a Q plate as I thought you want orig number plate with this beast?

I will register it as either a brand new car as it will be all new components except the engine OR I will use the M5 which I am breaking to build this car and get an age related plate based on the M5.

[ya_bollox]

Baron Greenback said:

andygtt said:

I bought the strengthening panels you refer to along with a full weld in cage so I could do exactly as you suggest... However I have decided not to use the Capri shell at all and make my own entire chassis and suspension from scratch and cloth it carbon fibre panels made from this donor Capri.
It's a very very solid car so I am loath to cut it to pieces to donate to my project so I'm using it as mock up and to take moulds and dimensions from.... Still going to prep this car properly and get rid of the rust I have found (due to dogged prior repairs it seems).

Awesome but how are you not ending up with a Q plate as I thought you want orig number plate with this beast?

had figured you'd probably come up with something nutty like that, sounds good always ponder about a Zakspeed rep for the road with the genuine kit, but I'd imagine it'd fill a lane and be a bit awkward

my opinion on donor cars is if its top-spec/limited edition then save it ie. don't kill a 3.0s(classic Capri) but 1.6 2.0s are fair game as they aren't as ''special'' and its your car so who cares what you do with it,
same goes for the plate it wares, its the car that I'm interested in, plates are for owner + authorities