Capri GTT... V10, 550bhp

[andygtt]

So been wavering and am thinking I might bin the V10 and instead put the V6 in that I've spent so mch time developing in the noble to much more power and torque than the V10 and I know it well.... I've even developed ITB and carbon plenum for this engine this year which I hope will sound good.

Only downside is noise... The v10 would have sounded awesome.

the V6 is a ford 3.0L unit seems fitting as well.

Edited by andygtt on Friday 12th August 21:54

[marksx]

Just a minor change then!

[Ilovejapcrap]

ezakimak said:

Andy Canam, you have seen this haven't you?

http://www.carbuildindex.com/15931/body-swap-1985-...



Ryan

Hey it stops halfway through I wanted to read whole thing

[Zombie]

It's easy to stay with what you know and there is something to be said about keeping it all Ford (or Alfa in my case) but 550bhp is more than enough, it's never been done before, it's NA(!) and, as a final point, those v10s sound EPIC!

Edited by Zombie on Saturday 13th August 01:09

[e21Mark]

Must admit, the idea of a V10 Capri is awesome.


Oh and that noise!!

[irocfan]

Zombie said:

It's easy to stay with what you know and there is something to be said about keeping it all Ford (or Alfa in my case) but 550bhp is more than enough, it's never been done before, it's NA(!) and, as a final point, those v10s sound EPIC!

Edited by Zombie on Saturday 13th August 01:09

This ^^^ The thing is there have been loads of custom/racing V6 Capris (and in terms of the racing ones at least with more power than you are likely to achieve), a V10 though....

[HughG]

irocfan said:

This ^^^ The thing is there have been loads of custom/racing V6 Capris (and in terms of the racing ones at least with more power than you are likely to achieve), a V10 though....

Have you seen the thread of his 700hp Noble?

[J4CKO]

e21Mark said:

Must admit, the idea of a V10 Capri is awesome.


Oh and that noise!!

Will be epic with whatever but the V10 is definitely its potential USP !

[PhillipM]

You almost, almost had the only decent Capri.

Keep the V10

[chuntington101]

If you want to keep it ford, what about a Ford Coyote? If you wanted mad power you could twin turbo or supercharger (whipple offer a 800bbp kit for the new mustang that's bolt on!). Or you could go flat plain gt350 engine for something even more different.

[andygtt]

The issue with the V10 is cost and reliability, the V10 I have is 100k plus old and worth 4-5k.... The V6 would be all new and therefore much more likely to be reliable.

I can't afford to have the v10 fully rebuilt as that would cost another £10k on top, and I want to go for a brand new registration.... Currently the only positive for the V10 in my mind is the sound, not sure that's enough.

[Escy]

Wouldn't you'd have to have used an unregistered shell to stand a chance of getting a new registration?

[andygtt]

I'm making the body and chassis from scratch so it will all be new regardless of what direction I take engine wise.

it will rund double wishbone suspension and bespoke uprights etc all round so again will all be new

[Escy]

I'm confused, earlier in the thread you were measuring up the engine bay, talking about steering rack location, etc so it sounded like everything was being shoehorned into the Capri shell. Now it's going to be a spaceframe with the Capri shell dropped onto it?

[anonymous-user]

andygtt said:

The issue with the V10 is cost and reliability, the V10 I have is 100k plus old and worth 4-5k.... The V6 would be all new and therefore much more likely to be reliable.

I can't afford to have the v10 fully rebuilt as that would cost another £10k on top, and I want to go for a brand new registration.... Currently the only positive for the V10 in my mind is the sound, not sure that's enough.

I suspect, that the boggo V10 will be MORE reliable than anything you have made at home. There are thousands of M5s and M6s world wide with high miles, and yes, some of them are suffering issues, but generally, considering they are daily drivers (which your crapi isn't going to be....) they are pretty robust!


I've also no idea how much a V10 costs from a breakers, but i bet you could buy another s/h one for a LOT less than it will cost you to build the V6, where just a set of rods and pistons is going to be £3k if you're using decent ones!


ie KEEP THE V10 !!!

[rdodger]

My 2p

It takes a lot of skill, time, money and effort to build a car from scratch.

Build it exactly as you want it to suite what you want to use it for.

I vote for the V10 for the sound and the fact it's NASP. Turbo's are cheating

I suspect the V6 will be faster and breath fire so not all bad

[J4CKO]

andygtt said:

The issue with the V10 is cost and reliability, the V10 I have is 100k plus old and worth 4-5k.... The V6 would be all new and therefore much more likely to be reliable.

I can't afford to have the v10 fully rebuilt as that would cost another £10k on top, and I want to go for a brand new registration.... Currently the only positive for the V10 in my mind is the sound, not sure that's enough.

Hey, its easy for us to say, we dont have to build it and live with it, you sound like you have masses of experience on the Ford engine so I can totally see why you would go that direction, it will be rapid either way.

[andygtt]

Max_Torque said:

andygtt said:

The issue with the V10 is cost and reliability, the V10 I have is 100k plus old and worth 4-5k.... The V6 would be all new and therefore much more likely to be reliable.

I can't afford to have the v10 fully rebuilt as that would cost another £10k on top, and I want to go for a brand new registration.... Currently the only positive for the V10 in my mind is the sound, not sure that's enough.

I suspect, that the boggo V10 will be MORE reliable than anything you have made at home. There are thousands of M5s and M6s world wide with high miles, and yes, some of them are suffering issues, but generally, considering they are daily drivers (which your crapi isn't going to be....) they are pretty robust!


I've also no idea how much a V10 costs from a breakers, but i bet you could buy another s/h one for a LOT less than it will cost you to build the V6, where just a set of rods and pistons is going to be £3k if you're using decent ones!


ie KEEP THE V10 !!!

I have 2 of the M5s, the black one failed and was not cost effective to repair, so I took the engine out and started building a Capri around it.. I bought another to replace it and that has just failed, vanos solenoids, these are a wear item and there are 4 of them unique to the E60 M5 V10.... On 1st July this year BMW put the price of these up from £82 plus vat each to £870 plus vat each.

So to fix just one tiny usually cheap element it's £4K and they are a know poor design apparently.... This has tainted me using this unit.

A V10 from breakers is £5k ish

[andygtt]

Escy said:

I'm confused, earlier in the thread you were measuring up the engine bay, talking about steering rack location, etc so it sounded like everything was being shoehorned into the Capri shell. Now it's going to be a spaceframe with the Capri shell dropped onto it?

True, and then after that in the thread I realised if I followed that route it would end up on a Q plate so changed direction. :-)

The body will be full carbon which I will be making.

[Zombie]

andygtt said:

vanos solenoids, these are a wear item and there are 4 of them unique to the E60 M5 V10.... On 1st July this year BMW put the price of these up from £82 plus vat each to £870 plus vat each.

They did what?!!! That's insane!

Edited by Zombie on Sunday 14th August 18:20