K7N 57i Induction Kit on 2010 Civic
Discussion
Okay, so I tried on the Honda section and got tumbleweed. Looked on civinfo and just got bickering, overexcited chavs.
Question is, is it worth fitting a K&N 57i induction kit to my 2010 Civic (1.8 Si)?
I know it will make minimal performance gains, but that it will make a nice noise. And it's easy to fit. Ignoring any claims made my K&N themselves.
Will there be any economy issues, any water inlet issues? It takes in air from a vent under the engine. Is this kit a proper CAI? If it's no good, what's a good alternative?
I'm probably just being an idiot wanting their car to sound 'cool'. We all get carried away, don't we?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
Question is, is it worth fitting a K&N 57i induction kit to my 2010 Civic (1.8 Si)?
I know it will make minimal performance gains, but that it will make a nice noise. And it's easy to fit. Ignoring any claims made my K&N themselves.
Will there be any economy issues, any water inlet issues? It takes in air from a vent under the engine. Is this kit a proper CAI? If it's no good, what's a good alternative?
I'm probably just being an idiot wanting their car to sound 'cool'. We all get carried away, don't we?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
Not on a civic, but I had a 57 K&N on a 5 series, It was brilliant.
Just be under no illusions regarding performance, fuel economy, throttle response etc. All they do is make the induction sound louder/ subjectively better. Half the time the heat shielding for the intake it binned, especially with the cone style Jobbies, So even with the feed coming from under the car (mine was through the front wing), you probably have a higher intake temp, so worse performance.
Its just for sound. However...Embrace the inner Chav, I loved it on mine.
Oh, and tell your insurance.
Just be under no illusions regarding performance, fuel economy, throttle response etc. All they do is make the induction sound louder/ subjectively better. Half the time the heat shielding for the intake it binned, especially with the cone style Jobbies, So even with the feed coming from under the car (mine was through the front wing), you probably have a higher intake temp, so worse performance.
Its just for sound. However...Embrace the inner Chav, I loved it on mine.
Oh, and tell your insurance.
walsh said:
Not on a civic, but I had a 57 K&N on a 5 series, It was brilliant.
Just be under no illusions regarding performance, fuel economy, throttle response etc. All they do is make the induction sound louder/ subjectively better. Half the time the heat shielding for the intake it binned, especially with the cone style Jobbies, So even with the feed coming from under the car (mine was through the front wing), you probably have a higher intake temp, so worse performance.
Its just for sound. However...Embrace the inner Chav, I loved it on mine.
Oh, and tell your insurance.
Cheers mate. What I thought really. Just be under no illusions regarding performance, fuel economy, throttle response etc. All they do is make the induction sound louder/ subjectively better. Half the time the heat shielding for the intake it binned, especially with the cone style Jobbies, So even with the feed coming from under the car (mine was through the front wing), you probably have a higher intake temp, so worse performance.
Its just for sound. However...Embrace the inner Chav, I loved it on mine.
Oh, and tell your insurance.
I just need someone who's had the same car, fitted the kit as per instructions, and can give me any pros and cons. That's probably asking a lot.
Induction kits do essentially the same job on all cars these days really. You'll get a bit more noise, very tiny difference (maybe better, maybe worse) on economy, performance, response etc. Car manufacturers spend a lot of time and effort making the standard intake systems suit the engine to ensure it runs efficiently so while these "upgrades" may allow more air to flow, they don't make the engine consume any more air than they already do.
I fitted one on my old Leon Cupra R which is turbocharged, even that didn't really feel any different, just more sound really. The one thing I would say about K&N is that they have a reputation for killing mass airflow sensors due to the oil they use in the filters. Whether that's still true or not is anybody's guess but I chose a BMC air filter on my Leon and had no issues with it.
It's just about sound nowadays, that's all. That's fine if that's what you expect but if you think you'll get mega performance gains from an induction kit alone you'll end up disappointed.
I fitted one on my old Leon Cupra R which is turbocharged, even that didn't really feel any different, just more sound really. The one thing I would say about K&N is that they have a reputation for killing mass airflow sensors due to the oil they use in the filters. Whether that's still true or not is anybody's guess but I chose a BMC air filter on my Leon and had no issues with it.
It's just about sound nowadays, that's all. That's fine if that's what you expect but if you think you'll get mega performance gains from an induction kit alone you'll end up disappointed.
I think you will probably lose power. It felt like I lost power on a 1.8 Clio and a 2.0 Vectra when I had them. The standard airbox fitted to the Clio was much better and the BMC CDA style filter I added to the Vectra made an improvement over the standard cone filter someone already fitted to it. As mentioned the oil on the filters have a tendancy to screw up the MAF sensors.
walsh said:
He seems to be on the same page.
Side tracking slightly, but is the engine in yours the I-vtec, and do they still have the Aggressive cam lift like the old ones? Because they sound amusing anyway, let alone with an induction kit.
It is the i-Vtec and it does already sound decent. Side tracking slightly, but is the engine in yours the I-vtec, and do they still have the Aggressive cam lift like the old ones? Because they sound amusing anyway, let alone with an induction kit.
Don't think I'm gonna bother. No gains, arseing on with insurance, £85 and a daft noise.
Thanks folks.
horsemeatscandal said:
Question is, is it worth fitting a K&N 57i induction kit to my 2010 Civic (1.8 Si)?
No.If you get the kit for free or next to, then of course it'll do no harm. But it's a completely pointless thing to do. And if you think a 1.8 Civic sounds good, spend the money getting a ride in something with a proper engine
In fact, if you don't need a 5 seater hatchback (most people don't!!), consider selling it and buying a more interesting car, then consider if it's worth fitting an induction to that or not.
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