Winter hack fail or genius? Broken Jaguar content

[velocefica]

MrMoonyMan said:

I'd change that wood trim to 'black piano' (iirc, worked for Jaguar many years ago) if you can find it. Otherwise there's an Aluminium that'd go well too.

Couldn't agree more I managed to find a Piano Black dash for mine and it really transforms the interior. Mine has black leather so it look great with the black dash.

Also consider a facelift grill as it refreshes the front completely.

The 3.0 engine is a peach and if well maintained will go on and on.

Another plus is the old Mondeo connection. All the serviceable parts are mostly Ford so are peanuts to replace. I had a faulty electric seat motor but because it had a Ford sticker on it it was £15 to replace.

Edited by velocefica on Friday 30th October 04:24

Edited by velocefica on Friday 30th October 04:25

[anonymous-user]

I have to say brave man, after being stung on my last 2 cars I nearly lost the will to live. A rear brake disk change ended up with a new caliper and brake pipe and full brake fluid drain.

Then other faults came up. My next car will have all the faults fixed before I get it , as sometimes the sellers hide things that you only find out once you fix the fault and find another. But good luck to you it looks a nice car.

[jamiebae]

For the dash surely you can just get some of the 'Folia-Tec' type film and wrap it like the boy racers did in the 90s? Much cheaper than buying the proper parts, and you could even go for a red carbon look to match the seats...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/127cm-x-30cm-3D-Carbon-F...

[Super Slo Mo]

As regards getting it home, how bad is the radiator leak?

I'd be thinking of taking a few litres of water with me and just stopping to top up if necessary, taking precautions not to get scalded of course

[Medic-one]

I like the red interior, looks good.

Might be worth signing up here, loads of tips/advice on all models : http://www.jaguarforum.com/

[appletonn]

Nice car - I had a metallic grey 2.5 Sport manual with that interior (colour of leather was called Cranberry, if memory serves) fro 3 yrs from new & loved it.

Did 105k & apart from leaky transfer box & general servciing, never caused any issues. Great fun in the snow as that rudimentary 4wd system is VERY rwd biased, it turns out, especially on summer tyres!!

[mrpee]

Unfortunately,x type and s type suffer badly with corroded sills due to the plastic covers collecting crud so I would budget for a bit of welding as well.

Car looks great though for the money,well done.

[snotrag]

mrpee said:

Unfortunately,x type and s type suffer badly with corroded sills due to the plastic covers collecting crud so I would budget for a bit of welding as well.

Car looks great though for the money,well done.

I've just spent two days looking for an X-type, viewed 8 now at the £2k price mark that all have serious rust issue, and some of them some very, very amateur/poor patchinh up, including one with an unpainted mild steel patch, SILICONED over a hole!

However at long last I've finally found a rot-free one, test drive tomorrow so fingers crossed it drives well.

[mrpee]

Expensive job to do properly due to removal of seats,carpets,wiring etc so some people tend to use some more imaginative methods.

[AceOfHearts]

I'm sure the sills will need welding but I will document everything on here and show you what I find under the covers

The panels are very simple though and access looks good so I am not too worried, especially with what I have been dealing with on the Trabant!

This guy who sells (expensive) sill panels has some good photos with the covers removed:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-X-Type-Sills-Lase...

I have got a spreadsheet with all of my potential spending and at the moment I am still aiming to get the car perfect for less than shed money

ETA I am picking it up 8:30am Saturday (today)

Edited by AceOfHearts on Saturday 31st October 01:29

[anonymous-user]

so structural rust gets failed at the mot, but this fix is not structural it is cosmetic.

The whole point of the mot fail is that it could be dangerous, or I am wrong so this fix is just a cover up?

Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 31st October 01:53

[AceOfHearts]

The Spruce goose said:

so structural rust gets failed at the mot, but this fix is not structural it is cosmetic.

The whole point of the mot fail is that it could be dangerous, or I am wrong so this fix is just a cover up?

Not quite sure I understand? Cutting out rust and welding in new sills is a proper fix.

[anonymous-user]

AceOfHearts said:

Not quite sure I understand? Cutting out rust and welding in new sills is a proper fix.

Sorry if not clear I meant I thought the MOT failed it as they are structural, but the advert says these are cosmetic replacements.

[sjj84]

Drive it round the corner and call a breakdown service to recover you home?

Looks nice, I've always liked the x type. What's the deal with the transfer box? I notice a few people have made mention of it, are they prone for leaks?

[AceOfHearts]

Big thanks to LewG today, who took me to pick up the Jag this morning and provide a bit of support.

We topped the coolant up and left the pressure cap off and it didn't use a drop of coolant on the entire journey home which was nice, but the drive was not without issues. I knew the car was running lumpy when I went to view the car, but due to the leak could only take it for a spin around the sellers estate.

On the open road it had a pretty heavy misfire though, which was keeping the car in limp home mode so it had no power and wouldn't go above 3k rpm. When we got home we plugged the diagnostic reader in so I could start doing some research into fixes. Thankfully I don't think it came out too bad with only 5 codes

P0301 - Cylinder 1 misfire detected
P1316 - Misfire excessive emissions fault
P1313 - Misfire catalyst damage fault bank 1
P1646 - o2 sensor bank 1 upstream
P1647 - o2 sensor bank 2 upstream

From looking at this the first port of call is definitely to sort the misfire, as I suspect the other fault codes could all be related to this. Cylinder 1 is annoyingly at the back of the engine and requires the inlet manifold to be removed, but I will replace the coil and put in a fresh set of spark plugs and then go from there (apparently the coils are a common issue)

Only other thing I noticed was that the car is a little 'bouncy' so could be due some new shocks in the future.

Positive notes however are that all the electrics inside seem to work and the air con is even cold! Also the misses got home today and gave it the thumbs up which is always good

Hopefully I will be able to crack on with it on Monday but still have 2 x 12 hour night shifts to get through before then

[AceOfHearts]

Had a quick half hour on the car this morning (am about to go to bed)

I removed the engine cover and started searching for any damaged vacuum lines and sprayed a little bit of carb cleaner around to try to spot any leaks. Found that the tuning valves on the left hand side of the intake manifold were letting in quite a bit of air, so i removed them and the o-rings were very flat. Have a couple on order now so will replace them, but in the mean time I cleaned them up and reassembled with a bit of o-ring grease. Car is driving 90% better now and pulling ok, but still has a slight stutter when setting off and at light load, but things are going in the right direction and it no longer drops into limp mode



After a quick drive around I checked the codes again and the only two that came back were the two o2 sensors, so they might actually need replacing. I will wait and see how it is after the service and other bits are done though.

I have also been on a bit of an online spending spree this weekend and got a few little treats for it.

[Mr Teddy Bear]

Many years ago, one of these turned up outside my front door as my hire car for a duty visit to Devonport and return. The hire company had obviously run short of 2.3 TDCI Mondeo's. I of course took advantage of such largess by thrashing the thing there and back and taking the long route betwixt M5 and Bear Towers in SGlos. Unlike the Mondeo that could comfortably complete the round trip on a tankful with some to spare, the Jag needed to be filled twice on the return journey!

[S10GTA]

I love st like this. Good work.

[PhillipM]

My old man has one of these. Rides nice, drives okay. Most unreliable POS I've ever had to fix. And we've had 4 Peugeots between us.

The electrics are terrible, just really, really badly made and designed bits all over. Fusebox is exposed and poor quality so corrodes, headlight circuit hacked together from the mondeo one to do 4 lights and likes to melt the earth running behind the dash, fans have a 75A controller on an 80A fused circuit so the controller melts not the fuse....door locks and windows don't unlock/move from inside half the time unless you turn the engine off and use the remote because the rods wear on the solonoids in the doors.
WRT your running problem, and related to the electrics - if the throttle body gets gunked up and sticks the motor/sensor seems to go slightly nuts and you get a misfire when you first hit the throttle from constant speed or first fireup when it'll have a slight miss or cycle up and down - new throttle body job.
Chassis is okay, but it eats rubber bushes pretty fast (same as most heavy 4wd cars really), sills rust when you look at them funny. So do brake lines.
Transfer box will leak at some point, pain in the arse of a job but I managed to do a fairly cheap fix without actually replacing the box so just time-wise rather than cash. £1400 job at most garages mind.

Edited by PhillipM on Tuesday 3rd November 21:34

[AceOfHearts]

Thanks for the glowing review I will have to remove the intake manifold for the plug change anyway so I will give the throttle body a good clean then.

I did a track day in the TVR today but cooked the brakes after lunch so came home a bit early. I had about 30 minutes of daylight left when I got home but unfortunately none of the service bits and bobs have arrived yet, so I got busy with another very important job; getting rid of the clashy and horrible fake wood dash!

Before(including scratched ashtray lid and gear lever surround)



After



I have Friday and Sunday off so hopefully the engine parts will have turned up by then and I can really start cracking on

Edited by AceOfHearts on Tuesday 3rd November 22:06