BMW E60 M5

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cosworth330

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238 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Andy, I know what your saying re the main dealer testing the Vanos. I'm not sure how but I have read that the Vanos solenoids can cause the Vanos to operate at lower than normal oil pressure if one or more is faulty. But like you say the most common cause is the pump or the Vanos oil feed line. TBH I'm quite pleased they are replacing all 4 and we will see if it needs any more bits after that. It wasn't even that noisy TBH and idle was perfect but BMW reported it needed doing so as long as the warranty is paying I'm happy!

cosworth330

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238 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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rayyan171 said:
Your car is a needle in a haystack of turbocharged sports cars. Keep on to it, and savour the naturally aspirated engine this car has, as it probably won't happen again with BMW.
Thanks, so true.

cosworth330

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Wednesday 21st September 2016
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joscal said:
I would for sure test drive before you change, I'm currently in an F10 M5 having had 2 E60's and I miss the engine badly! I don't miss the gearbox in traffic and the new car is more accomplished and far quicker but it definitely isn't as much as an event.

Horses for courses really and it may be rose tinted glasses but I can't help thinking the E60 will become a classic, who knows?
I'm sure I will like the F10 when I get to drive one. I went from the E39 M5 to the E60 M5 and much prefer the E60 which will suprise a lot of people, the E60 is much more exciting to drive than the E39 ever was.

Having a new kitchen fitted next month including knocking the wall down between kitchen and dinning room so won't have the money to change my M5 for a while anyway.

I don't do many miles in my M5 either, my wife has a new Mk7 Golf gti we use for buzzing about in and neither of us need a car to get to work.

andygtt

8,345 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Mikeeb said:
The Independent I use made up a tool for measuring the Vanos pump pressure as they are often the problem.
I did the same as it was only £60 to make, my pressure absolutely zero.... I even disconnected the line and put it into a bottle and ran the car in case the new gauge I had was faulty.... No oil came out at all and it's supposed to run at 1000psi on idle lol

Saved myself nearly £4K...

Got to drop the sump now to see if it's the line or the pump.

Mikeeb

407 posts

119 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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andygtt said:
I did the same as it was only £60 to make, my pressure absolutely zero.... I even disconnected the line and put it into a bottle and ran the car in case the new gauge I had was faulty.... No oil came out at all and it's supposed to run at 1000psi on idle lol

Saved myself nearly £4K...

Got to drop the sump now to see if it's the line or the pump.
Hopefully it's the line (I think they just crack) otherwise you might have all sorts of swarf in the sump.

cosworth330

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Friday 23rd September 2016
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Picked my car today, fitted 4 Vanos solenoids and diff seals. I would say the Vanos sounds quieter,sounds sweeter now.

cosworth330

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Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Got this from Jim Colley at Fast attack motorsports,


Downloaded my stock DME file and emailed to Jim, just waiting for the updated file so I can upload.

cosworth330

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Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Also had Jack at Royal steering wheels refurb my steering wheel in alcantara. Thought it would compliment my alcantara roof lining. Very pleased with it, it's a slightly thicker rim than factory which actually feels better.





Next thing to do over winter is get my wheels refurbished as I managed to curb one a few months ago and the others are just starting to bubble up around the centre BMW badge. Although I am undecided whether to change to a set of the option style 167 alloys as I think they make the E60 M5 look more modern but that is quite a cost and they don't come up that often at sensible money plus I would need to get the correct E60 M5 ones as the M6 have a different off set on the rears.

What do people think n the style 167 wheels,look better or not?

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JonJon2015

304 posts

98 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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That Royal steering wheel refurb looks superb. I must get the wheel of my E39 over to them...

I've always preferred the style 167s on the E60 and agree with you that they make the car look more modern.

cosworth330

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238 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I just sent Jack an email of what I wanted and it was ready within about 2 weeks and I drove upto him and he swapped over the steering wheels in about 20 mins and away I went. He does an exchange service on most steering wheels at no extra cost.
Thanks for the input about the 167's. They will probably be easier to clean as well.

Mikeeb

407 posts

119 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I'll be very interested to hear your thoughts on the FA tune and which tune options you took, as I've been considering it for my M6.

Could I ask the price? PM if you prefer.

As for wheels, well being an M6 owner I prefer the 167's!

Cheers

Mike

cosworth330

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238 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Hi Mike, another M5 owner I meet up sometimes loaded his FAMS tune a couple of weeks ago and said he can't believe the difference, just so much more responsive and can deffo feel it has an extra 30hp or so. He is very pleased. PM sent.

evsky

38 posts

127 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Love the car mate, I do believe you have done some work in my house a couple of months back, since you spotted my BMW memorabilia and asked my partner what I had etc. I've seen you out and about occasionally in east Kent.

Let me know if you ever do intend on selling it, I've had the E39 M5 and loved it. The V10 seems absolutely epic.


cosworth330

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Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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evsky said:
Love the car mate, I do believe you have done some work in my house a couple of months back, since you spotted my BMW memorabilia and asked my partner what I had etc. I've seen you out and about occasionally in east Kent.

Let me know if you ever do intend on selling it, I've had the E39 M5 and loved it. The V10 seems absolutely epic.
Yes I remember. Sorry I couldn't do anything as you had been sold the wrong product a fixed 1meg connection if I remember.
I sold my previous E39 M5 without advertising it and the guy kept it for 3 years and sold it for more than he bought it for from me and we still keep in touch, he's down in Folkestone. Won't be selling just yet as I've just had a new kitchen delivered this week and going to take the wall down between kitchen and dining room, under floor heating etc so no money to change to an F10 M5 yet. I'm hoping to change it in summer 2017. The car is faultless, I'm very fussy when it comes to cars.
Last time I drove past your place your E46 M3 was looking very dirty lol!

Simon.

evsky

38 posts

127 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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cosworth330 said:
Yes I remember. Sorry I couldn't do anything as you had been sold the wrong product a fixed 1meg connection if I remember.
I sold my previous E39 M5 without advertising it and the guy kept it for 3 years and sold it for more than he bought it for from me and we still keep in touch, he's down in Folkestone. Won't be selling just yet as I've just had a new kitchen delivered this week and going to take the wall down between kitchen and dining room, under floor heating etc so no money to change to an F10 M5 yet. I'm hoping to change it in summer 2017. The car is faultless, I'm very fussy when it comes to cars.
Last time I drove past your place your E46 M3 was looking very dirty lol!

Simon.
It's got a bit better now, still not great for streaming Netflix etc, or gaming, but that's the location I guess; was going to try Vfast wireless at the end of the current contract, since they guarantee a big higher speed, but at the sacrifice of reliability I guess.

I can understand your logic in keeping it for a while, they aren't going to be losing much, if any money in the near future I don't think. Plus what else for around the same price has a 5L V10 with 500bhp? lol, I've heard a few go past my work and they sound so bloody good.

Living on that road next to all the farms my cars do collect dust, dirt and sap all the time, I have a 400bhp R33 Skyline now for a bit of a change, but that's kept in another location for the moment since I caught wind that someone had their eyes on it. I'm currently looking for permanent place to store my cars, a garage or barn etc, not having much luck with the farms around me though.

cosworth330

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Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I think your tel exch may only have upto 8Meg and fibre to the cab but you are on a direct feed from the exch as you are so close to it but that means fibre isn't available to you yet. You should get at least 7 meg , if not their is something wrong. I've never heard of anyone using V fast where you are as the speeds are normally ok. Do a speed test it should be about 7 meg. But don't forget you were sold the wrong product a fixed 1 or half meg circuit in error so did you phone up your service provider and sort that out?

When I used to see your M3 parked up I did think it's a wonder it hadn't been stolen as it's so quiet along there and no street lights. I was always looking for a local place to store my track car when I had one but never found anywhere close and secure. The R33 was always the best looking Skyline tbh, what colour is it? You don't see many on the roads these days.

Shaoxter

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125 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Nice steering wheel, now you just need to get the handbrake, gear shifter etc. also retrimmed in alcantara to match hehe

Regarding the alloys, I prefer the stock 166M ones but that's just me.

cosworth330

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238 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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Shaoxter said:
Nice steering wheel, now you just need to get the handbrake, gear shifter etc. also retrimmed in alcantara to match hehe

Regarding the alloys, I prefer the stock 166M ones but that's just me.
Hadn't thought of the h/brake cover and shifter boot, would look good.

Have you had to change your thrust arms yet, ones with the donut bush. I'm thinking mine must be quite worn at 64K, another job to do over winter.

Shaoxter

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125 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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Don't even know what they are so nope...
My indy does a pretty thorough inspection each year and they've only mentioned minor things driving
I'm on 75k miles now so might pay a visit to Centre Gravity or similar and see what they say about the state of the suspension.

evsky

38 posts

127 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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cosworth330 said:
I think your tel exch may only have upto 8Meg and fibre to the cab but you are on a direct feed from the exch as you are so close to it but that means fibre isn't available to you yet. You should get at least 7 meg , if not their is something wrong. I've never heard of anyone using V fast where you are as the speeds are normally ok. Do a speed test it should be about 7 meg. But don't forget you were sold the wrong product a fixed 1 or half meg circuit in error so did you phone up your service provider and sort that out?

When I used to see your M3 parked up I did think it's a wonder it hadn't been stolen as it's so quiet along there and no street lights. I was always looking for a local place to store my track car when I had one but never found anywhere close and secure. The R33 was always the best looking Skyline tbh, what colour is it? You don't see many on the roads these days.
We get about 8meg now, it was fixed after a few weeks and few calls. But I'm a bit of a nerd and need faster web haha..

Yeah it's a bit of a dodgy area for that kind of thing I think, as in it gets a lot of traffic through there and is an ideal place to nick something like a car lol.

It's silver, GTS-T not a GTR, but it's a proper fun RWD car, you can see my thread for it on my profile, it's a really clean one, no silly bodykits haha