Porsche Boxster 986 - engine swap project

Porsche Boxster 986 - engine swap project

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TonyRPH

12,972 posts

168 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Isn't that air filter going to be prone to picking up water?

Or don't you plan to drive in the rain? spin

Escy

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3,931 posts

149 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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I fancy having a crack at daily driving it in the Spring so it'll be getting used in the wet. I'll get a K&N DryCharger cover for it. If I find that's not keeping it dry i'll make a shield for it to stop spray from coming up off the wheels. I'm not going to be wading through massive puddles in it.

NotNormal

2,359 posts

214 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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From the pics it appears you are not using any water connections on the turbo for cooling, any reason why?

Yazza54

18,508 posts

181 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Love this, looks great under there

I'd be a bit worried about the filter too though

Escy

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3,931 posts

149 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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I'm not using water lines, it doesn't need them. Most Holsets don't even have a core with water lines, i've been told the fact mine does means it probably started life on a natural gas application. With my turbo mounted as far back as it is I can't see it running that hot.

ooid

4,088 posts

100 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Cooling - its surprising how much bigger the side air intakes are on 718 compared with 981. With turbos it's clearly vital to get some air moving about at the back of the car.
I like the 718 styling, but I think that engine is gonna need more than those new larger air intakes to cool things down!! rolleyes

Escy

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3,931 posts

149 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Finished off the charge cooler install. I needed the rads off like this to properly bleed them, having clear pipes made the bleeding process much easier.



Finished it all up, quite a tight fit getting the rads and pipework in behind the bumper.



I had the bumper repainted as it was full of stone chips.


Barchettaman

6,308 posts

132 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Just awesome work.

The cooling system appears to be approaching Bugatti Veyron-esque levels of complexity. I love it.

shalmaneser

5,932 posts

195 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Always excited to see an update with this - can't wait to see it moving!

ooid

4,088 posts

100 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Meaning to ask about your CATS (Catalytic converters), can it pass the emissions with the current exhaust set-up? scratchchin


Vitorio

4,296 posts

143 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Barchettaman said:
Just awesome work.

The cooling system appears to be approaching Bugatti Veyron-esque levels of complexity. I love it.
Id be rather nervous with that setup, long length of pipes running back to front and back...

Then again, its only the charge cooler, losing that would just mean hotter air, so less O2 in the cilinders, which a proper ECU should compensate for.

Escy

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3,931 posts

149 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Thanks for the comments.

ooid said:
Meaning to ask about your CATS (Catalytic converters), can it pass the emissions with the current exhaust set-up? scratchchin
I've got no space for a cat with the exhaust as it is, the plan as it stands is to knock up a new temporary exhaust which will basically be a cat i've got kicking about in the garage bolted straight after the turbo and i'll lean up the fueling to pass the emissions, then swap it back to the 3.5" system (for track use wink)

Vitorio said:
Id be rather nervous with that setup, long length of pipes running back to front and back...

Then again, its only the charge cooler, losing that would just mean hotter air, so less O2 in the cilinders, which a proper ECU should compensate for.
I'm confused, perhaps you don't understand the way it works? There is a heat exchanger in the boot, this has the hot compressed air from the turbocharger passing through it, it also has cold coolant passing through it (this coolant is a separate system from the engine coolant). With the charge cooler coolant, more capacity is a good thing as it'll take longer for the coolant to heat up (this also means longer to cool back down). This is why I added the extra tank in the boot, the fact the lines run front to back isn't an issue, especially as I've got a good pump, it does 24 litres per minute, that's 0.4 per second. My system takes around 15 litres of coolant so that's 37.5 seconds of full throttle before there will be a complete cycle of the coolant. No chance of full throttle for that amount of time on the road and I'm sure these new radiators will be good enough for the system to stay cool on track.

drewbagz

183 posts

164 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Keep up the great work. Looking forward to seeing it out on test.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Wicked project, enjoyed a lunchtime read smile

Escy

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3,931 posts

149 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Thanks guys.

I took the car on it's maiden voyage tonight. It could have gone better, I made about 6 foot before I had a breakdown, I didn't even make it out of the garage! It looks like one of the power steering lines has rusted through, also an alloy fitting on one of the rubber p/s pipes has split so that'll need to be changed also.




seiben

2,346 posts

134 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Bugger!

I like that you were going to go topless, though hehe

shalmaneser

5,932 posts

195 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Can't wait to see this in action!

Who needs PS anyway?!

Vitorio

4,296 posts

143 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Escy said:
I'm confused, perhaps you don't understand the way it works? There is a heat exchanger in the boot, this has the hot compressed air from the turbocharger passing through it, it also has cold coolant passing through it (this coolant is a separate system from the engine coolant). With the charge cooler coolant, more capacity is a good thing as it'll take longer for the coolant to heat up (this also means longer to cool back down). This is why I added the extra tank in the boot, the fact the lines run front to back isn't an issue, especially as I've got a good pump, it does 24 litres per minute, that's 0.4 per second. My system takes around 15 litres of coolant so that's 37.5 seconds of full throttle before there will be a complete cycle of the coolant. No chance of full throttle for that amount of time on the road and I'm sure these new radiators will be good enough for the system to stay cool on track.
Yeah, i didnt know when writing that that the regular boxster has coolant running all the way back to front normally. Im not worried about the cooling capacity, i was just thinking that having coolant hoses running all the way through the car might be a tad less robust then having it closer to the engine (more pipe to get damaged/leak), but that shouldnt be an issue if its how porsche does it stock.

ooid

4,088 posts

100 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Vitorio said:
i was just thinking that having coolant hoses running all the way through the car might be a tad less robust then having it closer to the engine (more pipe to get damaged/leak), but that shouldnt be an issue if its how porsche does it stock.
It is indeed in principle quite complex. Many boxsters, caymans and 911s(997.1) had coolant pipe/hose issues and needed proper fixings. The system has to be pretty tight and damage proof, if you get stuck in a traffic during summer the lag between radiators and engine does not help when you have a flat 6 working in full capacity.

Yazza54

18,508 posts

181 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Well at least you had no engine problems!!