Unseen £200 e38

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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Slow said:
sort the reversing light out (is that even on the mot?)
No, it isn't.

Slow

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137 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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C70R said:
Slow said:
sort the reversing light out (is that even on the mot?)
Yes.
It's probably a contact issue at one end of the circuit - check the bulb holder and the switch on the gearbox.

Cracking little project, by the way. Given the amount of rot on the body panels, have you had a good poke around underneath with a screwdriver? My major worry would be that the sills are going to need a decent amount of welding to get it through an MOT. However, if that's not the case, and you can prep/paint the new panels yourself (dubious about the end result quality in a ventilated garage in Scotland), you're onto a bit of a winner.
Sills are solid and undersealed from the factory smile

I'm not sure about the quality of painting it at home either, but there's laquer peel on 2 doors, a silver door, a silver bumper and a red wing. Not sure it can get worse? Also notice that paint below the fuel cap in previous picture, it's not a pretty car.

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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Slow said:
C70R said:
Slow said:
sort the reversing light out (is that even on the mot?)
Yes.
It's probably a contact issue at one end of the circuit - check the bulb holder and the switch on the gearbox.

Cracking little project, by the way. Given the amount of rot on the body panels, have you had a good poke around underneath with a screwdriver? My major worry would be that the sills are going to need a decent amount of welding to get it through an MOT. However, if that's not the case, and you can prep/paint the new panels yourself (dubious about the end result quality in a ventilated garage in Scotland), you're onto a bit of a winner.
Sills are solid and undersealed from the factory smile

I'm not sure about the quality of painting it at home either, but there's laquer peel on 2 doors, a silver door, a silver bumper and a red wing. Not sure it can get worse? Also notice that paint below the fuel cap in previous picture, it's not a pretty car.
As long as you've had a good poke around (because inspectors will), that's excellent news. Remember, factory undersealing on a 20+yr old car is no guarantee of rust-free metal beneath.

TooMany2cvs said:
Slow said:
sort the reversing light out (is that even on the mot?)
No, it isn't.
You're absolutely right - I was wrong.

Brigand

2,544 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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Nice to see this as a project car, good luck to you!

I had a 750iL version for several months a year or two ago which wasn't in quite as bad a shape as yours but still needed a fair bit of cosmetic and mechanical work, that sadly at that time I was unable to afford. The worst of the issues was with the fuel gauge, with only one of the two fuel level sensors working, resulting in a dead gauge. The only way I could figure out how much fuel there was in the car was to unlock the OBC and display the fuel levels on the dash, although I could only see what was in one half of the tank. (As you may know the fuel tanks on these E38's are like 'saddle tanks', one under each rear passenger seat joined in the middle in the transmission tunnel, each with its own sensor)

If I'd had the space to store and work on it along with the money I'd have loved to have kept it as a project to fix up as they are lovely looking cars, but its complexity in general scared me a little and resulted in me letting it go to a breaker in the end.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

227 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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twoblacklines said:
... but I have seen a few 735i/740i's for sale that look pretty decent with low (100k ish) mileages.

Thoughts?
They're pretty robust overall, but quite hard on bushes - infamous steering shimmy - and the fuel tanks are prone to rotting at the filler-pipe join - replacement involves removing the rear axle which is a big job.

I had a 4.0l 740i years back, and I loved it. smile

shakotan

10,690 posts

196 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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fluffnik said:
twoblacklines said:
... but I have seen a few 735i/740i's for sale that look pretty decent with low (100k ish) mileages.

Thoughts?
They're pretty robust overall, but quite hard on bushes - infamous steering shimmy - and the fuel tanks are prone to rotting at the filler-pipe join - replacement involves removing the rear axle which is a big job.

I had a 4.0l 740i years back, and I loved it. smile
The 4.0 has the potential Nikasil issue, but they're so old now its either been done or probably wont be a problem.

The 4.4 suffers with issues with the vanos, which is very expensive to put right.

80sMatchbox

3,891 posts

176 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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I love the Alpina rims. Definitely my favourite wheel on a BMW, one of my favourite on any car!

fluffnik

20,156 posts

227 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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80sMatchbox said:
I love the Alpina rims. Definitely my favourite wheel on a BMW, one of my favourite on any car!
Trouble is the OP's fakes are visibly fake, there's nothing right about them, a nice set of Softlines however would look the business.


Barchettaman

6,307 posts

132 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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Great thread, Slow, cracking work.

I reckon you should leave the multicoloured panels as they are. It's kind of a barge Polo Harlequin.

Is the fuel tank OK?

Slow

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6,973 posts

137 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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Barchettaman said:
Great thread, Slow, cracking work.

I reckon you should leave the multicoloured panels as they are. It's kind of a barge Polo Harlequin.

Is the fuel tank OK?
It's got laquer peel and rust coming through with poor resprays so it really does need something doing.

No idea about the fuel tank, it tells me I have 17 miles of range left since I got it. Think the fuel leak only shows above half a tank, I've never put fuel in yet as its not mot time.

bmthnick1981

5,311 posts

216 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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Nice project, enjoy. Great cars the e38s.

Slow

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6,973 posts

137 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Failed it's mot frown

He's put down the abs light didn't come on, it did when I left the test centre so dunno if he's blind or what.

Then 2 ball joints dust covers are split, not a big deal as I planned on replacing the arms to sort the 50-60mph shimmy anyway.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Not bad. I read this thread a while ago and expected much worse than that. I've seen worse MOT fail sheets on younger cars that look pristine.


I would've loved to do the same when I was 21 - looks like fun. I'm still useless at car maintenance stuff. However I do have a coolant feed pipe (for the turbo) and a new radiator to put on my car, so I could try myself instead of paying someone

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Slow said:
Failed it's mot frown

He's put down the abs light didn't come on, it did when I left the test centre so dunno if he's blind or what.

Then 2 ball joints dust covers are split, not a big deal as I planned on replacing the arms to sort the 50-60mph shimmy anyway.
Oh THAT'S what causes that annoying shimmy. I tried everything on my 750 and could never get rid of it and it was most annoying.

Slow

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6,973 posts

137 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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ing car tried kill me...



3 wheel nuts are stripped and 2 are bent, time to rob my dead e46 I guess.

Do they weaken with age? I know they were all done up tight so they didn't wiggle loose.

HustleRussell

24,689 posts

160 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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Slow said:
3 wheel nuts are stripped and 2 are bent, time to rob my dead e46 I guess.

Do they weaken with age? I know they were all done up tight so they didn't wiggle loose.
They can't have been torqued correctly- there's basically no other way this'd happen.

Edited by HustleRussell on Thursday 31st March 00:16

Slow

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Thursday 31st March 2016
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HustleRussell said:
Slow said:
3 wheel nuts are stripped and 2 are bent, time to rob my dead e46 I guess.

Do they weaken with age? I know they were all done up tight so they didn't wiggle loose.
They must've been loose- there's basically no other way this'd happen, especially since two of the bolts came out in one piece.
They are all in 1 piece, all stripped however but 2 are bent also.

Never had this happen before so it's a odd one to me.

HustleRussell

24,689 posts

160 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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Just edited my last post because I realised they were stripped, which means they were likely over tightened.

Slow

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Thursday 31st March 2016
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Ah right, bks! Thanks for explaining smile

Gonna rob the e46 and try get it sorted tomorrow and fit the lower arms to pass the Mot retest on Friday.

HustleRussell

24,689 posts

160 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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Be prepared to get medieval on those lower arms, I found myself using ever larger hammers changing the ones on my E34. You're going to have to be even more brutal than you were with those wheel bolts wink