Seventies waftamatic: 1973 Daimler Sovereign Series One 4.2
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60s rather than 70s, but you'd need one of these for the full waftamatic set...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C633803
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C633803
P5BNij said:
craigjm said:
Breadvan72 said:
LWB started as a variant but ended up killing off the SWB, although when that happened I am not sure.
late 1974 within a year of introducing the series 2craigjm said:
P5BNij said:
craigjm said:
Breadvan72 said:
LWB started as a variant but ended up killing off the SWB, although when that happened I am not sure.
late 1974 within a year of introducing the series 2Meant to post this pic earlier but it got lost in the ether... 'the one that got away', previously given away as a prize in a mag competition but seen here for sale at Stoneleigh a few years ago, IIRC it was up for about £5k at the time and I came within a whisker of buying it but didn't have a secure garage to keep it in so walked away...
Red on red is probably a bit too much for some, but I love it!
Red on red is probably a bit too much for some, but I love it!
P5BNij said:
craigjm said:
P5BNij said:
craigjm said:
Breadvan72 said:
LWB started as a variant but ended up killing off the SWB, although when that happened I am not sure.
late 1974 within a year of introducing the series 2http://www.xjcjaguar.ozcarnut.com/xjc_history/xjc_...
More gratuitous TV lairiness ahoy...
'Villains' an ITV series from 1972 with a very young and hairy Martin Shaw at the wheel (the reg is close to my Cooper S WMU 211G, a nice surprise when I bought the DVD)...
'Villains' and yes that's Martin Shaw again...
'Villains' again, somewhere oop the north...
'Strangers' from 1978...
'Long Good Friday' filmed in '79 but not released for another eighteen months or so...
Not sure what these are from but the lairiness quotient is bang on..
CharlesdeGaulle made a good point about the colours available, I rather like these...
Earls Court '72 I think, S1 LWB launch...?
My early S2 lurking in Colet Gardens, Hammersmith where the opening titles for The Sweeney were shot in '74...
'Villains' an ITV series from 1972 with a very young and hairy Martin Shaw at the wheel (the reg is close to my Cooper S WMU 211G, a nice surprise when I bought the DVD)...
'Villains' and yes that's Martin Shaw again...
'Villains' again, somewhere oop the north...
'Strangers' from 1978...
'Long Good Friday' filmed in '79 but not released for another eighteen months or so...
Not sure what these are from but the lairiness quotient is bang on..
CharlesdeGaulle made a good point about the colours available, I rather like these...
Earls Court '72 I think, S1 LWB launch...?
My early S2 lurking in Colet Gardens, Hammersmith where the opening titles for The Sweeney were shot in '74...
Earls court car is a V12. Nice S2 BTW, Neat shot. Breadvan72 said:
0a said:
Fantastic, and all the better going to a chap with such a, er, historic collection. Hopefully the additions will continue, and will continue to originate cars posted "at" you here on Pistonheads.
How does this compare to the SD1 in a virtual and mismatched twin test?
PH'er and part time dead French President Charles de Gaulle put me onto the Daimo. It is quite a different ride from the SD1. The Daimler is quieter, more gutsy in a straight line, and feels quite old skule. The SD1 is noisier, nimbler, and feels like a car that was striving to be modern and advanced when new. Both are lovely places to sit, and both feel quite Chairman of the Board, although the Daimler Chairman is with a well established FTSE company while the SD1 Chairman is a younger guy at a younger company, maybe one that's getting into 80s tech.How does this compare to the SD1 in a virtual and mismatched twin test?
He's a real trouble maker, that's for sure. Careful with that one PH peeps. You will have a delightful drive full of old vehicles before you know if if you hang around with him.
Great review of the XJ. What do you do with regards to MOTs, services and so on with your fleet? I find two 26 year old cars quite enough, I will be expanding to three soon and fear the admin side of things more than anything else. 9 sounds like a right pain.
0a said:
The same PHer emailed photos to me of his 500SL which I received mid Scotland to England on the A7 in my old 300e (okay 1991 is young compared to your cars). Lots of photos. Just thought I'd email them on the off chance he said. No need to reply. The trip to the bank to withdraw the £20 notes was near automatic.
He's a real trouble maker, that's for sure. Careful with that one PH peeps. You will have a delightful drive full of old vehicles before you know if if you hang around with him.
He's a real trouble maker, that's for sure. Careful with that one PH peeps. You will have a delightful drive full of old vehicles before you know if if you hang around with him.
Sadly, I sometimes have to live my motoring dreams vicariously through other threadists.
I'm loving this thread, My old Dad had several XJ'S from 69 through to 77, building up to a XJ12L which was the most unreliable thing in history. Love the series one cars, RNE 5J was the car I have the fondest memories of. Back in those times I.C.I had XJ's as management cars and the carpark at Blackley in Manchester was full of them, 2.8's and 4.2's.
I keep thinking about acquiring a nice 4.2, it might be an itch to scratch this year.
I keep thinking about acquiring a nice 4.2, it might be an itch to scratch this year.
That is awesome - a white series 1 is my ideal car. Plus points for the webasto, boo for the Daimler badging and auto.
Getting the heater working will take just over eleventy gazillion years off your life as you replace yet another length of vacuum hose to try and get the controls to work
Getting the heater working will take just over eleventy gazillion years off your life as you replace yet another length of vacuum hose to try and get the controls to work
T5XARV said:
Did it really ? Where was he from ? Was he the first owner ? I bought it from a guy in Nottingham.
As far as I was able to research via Jaguar Heritage, the colour scheme was a one-off special order of Turquoise and Terracotta.
It was originally owned by a Civil Engineering company in Norwich called May Gurney. My Grandfather's friend, Paul Bassham was the managing director and it was his company car. When it was replaced, he acquired the car for his wife who, not being able to drive, was driven in it. When Paul retired, it was their 'high days and holidays' car and they kept it until he died in the mid 80s. His widow Winnie then sold it. I'm not sure whether her name ever appeared in the log book. It was fastidiously looked after, first by the fitters at May Gurney and then by Mann Egerton in Norwich. I well remember it as a child because of its very distinctive colour scheme.As far as I was able to research via Jaguar Heritage, the colour scheme was a one-off special order of Turquoise and Terracotta.
In a bizarre 'small world innit' Paul was very friendly not only with my Grandfather but also with my great uncle who was the first owner of Breadvan's Interceptor. My folks may even have a photo somewhere of VEX and the Interceptor together
craigjm said:
Great site Bomma.
One of only 821.... cool
Glad you & P5B found this interesting, a friend in Oz sent the link to me some time ago. Here's another:One of only 821.... cool
www.xjc.com.au
Apologies to Breadvan for the thread hijack, hope we'll see an XJC (V12?) on the 'Roster of Regret' one day...!
ClaphamGT3 said:
T5XARV said:
Did it really ? Where was he from ? Was he the first owner ? I bought it from a guy in Nottingham.
As far as I was able to research via Jaguar Heritage, the colour scheme was a one-off special order of Turquoise and Terracotta.
It was originally owned by a Civil Engineering company in Norwich called May Gurney. My Grandfather's friend, Paul Bassham was the managing director and it was his company car. When it was replaced, he acquired the car for his wife who, not being able to drive, was driven in it. When Paul retired, it was their 'high days and holidays' car and they kept it until he died in the mid 80s. His widow Winnie then sold it. I'm not sure whether her name ever appeared in the log book. It was fastidiously looked after, first by the fitters at May Gurney and then by Mann Egerton in Norwich. I well remember it as a child because of its very distinctive colour scheme.As far as I was able to research via Jaguar Heritage, the colour scheme was a one-off special order of Turquoise and Terracotta.
In a bizarre 'small world innit' Paul was very friendly not only with my Grandfather but also with my great uncle who was the first owner of Breadvan's Interceptor. My folks may even have a photo somewhere of VEX and the Interceptor together
Now I think of it, the cars 'Passport' had May Gurney written on the front.
When I first saw the car she was in an unloved, neglected but saveable state and I returned home to mull it over. Those mullings turned into restlessness which turned into anxiousness then panic as overnight I managed to convince myself that I was going to miss out, so I set off at first light having had very little sleep to do the deal.
There was no MOT and the seller was being vague but I pressed on and drove it home.
It needed an exhaust and a repair to one of the tanks but that was it.
I noticed that one of the wings had been badly resprayed and the paint was flaking slightly.
Using a combination of rubbing compound and 3000 grit wet and dry I was able to remove the top layer to reveal the original paint beneath !
It took me a week of evenings to discover to my deep joy that the culprit had blown over the whole wing in a similar shade without keying the original surface or using primer - all for a two-inch scratch !
Once I'd effected a local smart repair, I had the enthusiasm to machine polish the entire car, remove, restore and refit the chrome, detail the engine bay and restore the interior.
Of all the cars I've owned THIS is the one I will track down and buy again someday.
Sold it to a property millionaire from Liverpool who turned up in a Bentley Continental.
T5XARV said:
I would love to see that photo !
Now I think of it, the cars 'Passport' had May Gurney written on the front.
When I first saw the car she was in an unloved, neglected but saveable state and I returned home to mull it over. Those mullings turned into restlessness which turned into anxiousness then panic as overnight I managed to convince myself that I was going to miss out, so I set off at first light having had very little sleep to do the deal.
There was no MOT and the seller was being vague but I pressed on and drove it home.
It needed an exhaust and a repair to one of the tanks but that was it.
I noticed that one of the wings had been badly resprayed and the paint was flaking slightly.
Using a combination of rubbing compound and 3000 grit wet and dry I was able to remove the top layer to reveal the original paint beneath !
It took me a week of evenings to discover to my deep joy that the culprit had blown over the whole wing in a similar shade without keying the original surface or using primer - all for a two-inch scratch !
Once I'd effected a local smart repair, I had the enthusiasm to machine polish the entire car, remove, restore and refit the chrome, detail the engine bay and restore the interior.
Of all the cars I've owned THIS is the one I will track down and buy again someday.
Sold it to a property millionaire from Liverpool who turned up in a Bentley Continental.
It should have been pretty solid. I would have thought you could count on the fingers of your hands the number of times it sat out overnight whilst Paul and Winnie had it and it never wanted for anything maintenance wise. Paul was a very good driver and Winnie's chauffeur was a steady old chap, so it would never have had any dings or scrapes in their time. Now I think of it, the cars 'Passport' had May Gurney written on the front.
When I first saw the car she was in an unloved, neglected but saveable state and I returned home to mull it over. Those mullings turned into restlessness which turned into anxiousness then panic as overnight I managed to convince myself that I was going to miss out, so I set off at first light having had very little sleep to do the deal.
There was no MOT and the seller was being vague but I pressed on and drove it home.
It needed an exhaust and a repair to one of the tanks but that was it.
I noticed that one of the wings had been badly resprayed and the paint was flaking slightly.
Using a combination of rubbing compound and 3000 grit wet and dry I was able to remove the top layer to reveal the original paint beneath !
It took me a week of evenings to discover to my deep joy that the culprit had blown over the whole wing in a similar shade without keying the original surface or using primer - all for a two-inch scratch !
Once I'd effected a local smart repair, I had the enthusiasm to machine polish the entire car, remove, restore and refit the chrome, detail the engine bay and restore the interior.
Of all the cars I've owned THIS is the one I will track down and buy again someday.
Sold it to a property millionaire from Liverpool who turned up in a Bentley Continental.
I'm trying to remember the story about the colour scheme. I'm pretty sure that they didn't order it that colour but it was a one off. I'll ask my father the next time I speak to him and see if he remembers.
Did it still have the aftermarket Alpinair air con system when you had it?
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