Honda NSX-R 1996

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stradman

81 posts

196 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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May I ask, does anyone know if all NSX-R's NA-1 & NA-2 were RHD?

Neil-5ogx0

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108 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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To answer Stradman all NSX R both NA1 and NA2 model types are RHD only as they were not sold outside the Japanese Domestic Market.

Similarly Type S and Type S Zero cars are also RHD only.

The only special LHD NSX which was similar to a Type S Japanese market car was for the USA only and named Alex Zinardi Signature Edition in 1999, and only 50 were made.

All these special editions are very rare, e.g.:

NSX-R NA1 total production 483
NSX-R NA2 total production 150

Neil-5ogx0

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48 posts

108 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Mr Tidy said:
By the way that orange one in the photo looks fantastic - that must be a rare colour.
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I have never seen complete colour data for UK NSX but have the breakdown for 243 (26 are JDM imports), the total UK production numbers were 495.

Red 118
Silver 29
Blue 21
Black 21
Yellow 16
Green 14
Purple 12
Imola Orange Pearlescent (IOP) 8
White 5
Grey 3

There is a NA2 pre facelift in IOP car at Silverstone Auctions this weekend with an appropriately low guide price as it is a Cat D, this compares to the blue similar car that sold at the same auction house last weekend for around £70k including fees.

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Sillyhatday

441 posts

100 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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This is a nice thread, though it's not doing anything for my insatiable thirst for an NSX

Neil-5ogx0

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Saturday 5th March 2016
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Sillyhatday said:
This is a nice thread, though it's not doing anything for my insatiable thirst for an NSX
Does this help?

https://vimeo.com/157820737

Shows Club members NSX at Silverstone Classic 2015 for the 25 th Anniversary of the launch, you will see my Pealescent white car is featured, and next to it is another "last 12" car in black. Coverage is from the Channel 4 program.

We were lucky to be able to drive around the Silverstone Circuit on the day.

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Sillyhatday

441 posts

100 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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In a word, no.

That was a real nice little clip. You don't happen to have any interesting NSX clips do you? I've watched about all the hot version clips on YouTube. I figure your a Honda nutcase like myself that you would.

You ever owned an S2000?

Black S2K

1,486 posts

250 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Sillyhatday said:
In a word, no.


You ever owned an S2000?
Interesting question - one can feel that the centre of rotation and passive RWS of the two cars is very similar, yet they are so utterly different in character.

Is one better than the other? Once cannot compare them really, so one must endeavour to own both!

Neil-5ogx0

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48 posts

108 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Sillyhatday said:
In a word, no.

That was a real nice little clip. You don't happen to have any interesting NSX clips do you? I've watched about all the hot version clips on YouTube. I figure your a Honda nutcase like myself that you would.

You ever owned an S2000?
No never had a S2000, often considered it along with an Integra DC5 Type R.

How about these clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3iU633Wt3o&fe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sodKscFmIIw&fe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN_HbmZq_Xk



Sillyhatday

441 posts

100 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Black S2K said:
Interesting question - one can feel that the centre of rotation and passive RWS of the two cars is very similar, yet they are so utterly different in character.

Is one better than the other? Once cannot compare them really, so one must endeavour to own both!
I wasn't really looking for a comparison, as you say with different engine layouts are totally different. Fast Hondas tend to have a universal feeling that only slightly differ, but have that same buzz.

Not to derail the thread but I'm looking at S2000's as they're in my price range this summer. Just curious what another Honda enthusiast thought of them. Not that I've heard anything bad about them.

Though while your here sir, have you had the chance to compare both cars?

Sillyhatday

441 posts

100 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Neil-5ogx0 said:
No never had a S2000, often considered it along with an Integra DC5 Type R.

How about these clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3iU633Wt3o&fe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sodKscFmIIw&fe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN_HbmZq_Xk
Just had a quick look. I'll have a watch later on thanks.

Neil-5ogx0

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Saturday 5th March 2016
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Sillyhatday said:
Just had a quick look. I'll have a watch later on thanks.
And if you remain unconvinced here is one more clip that covers test drives of an early base car, early Type R and a late base car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK4GrPT7hCw


itcaptainslow

3,706 posts

137 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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The NSX is definitely one of those "something about you" cars that utterly beguiles and inspires me. Never driven one except on Gran Turismo, but everything the car stands for, how it looks and THAT video of Senna dancing one around Suzuka (I think?)...

Neil-5ogx0

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48 posts

108 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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itcaptainslow said:
The NSX is definitely one of those "something about you" cars that utterly beguiles and inspires me. Never driven one except on Gran Turismo, but everything the car stands for, how it looks and THAT video of Senna dancing one around Suzuka (I think?)...
Yes the Senna clip was at Suzuka (owned by Honda of course). Here is Motoharu Kurosawa and his Nurburgring lap that matched the time of the Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9X69ret9o8



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Black S2K

1,486 posts

250 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Sillyhatday said:
I wasn't really looking for a comparison, as you say with different engine layouts are totally different. Fast Hondas tend to have a universal feeling that only slightly differ, but have that same buzz.

Not to derail the thread but I'm looking at S2000's as they're in my price range this summer. Just curious what another Honda enthusiast thought of them. Not that I've heard anything bad about them.

Though while your here sir, have you had the chance to compare both cars?
Depends which I choose to get out of the garage on the particular day...

The S2000 requires driving hard & driving carefully, due to its somewhat 'on the edge' set-up. Very rewarding when you get it right, but it doesn't suffer fools gladly. It's firm-riding, somewhat NVHy and is very much in the mould of an old British roadster. Hard work, but exhilarating.

The NSX is obviously at a higher performance level, yet is far more refined and actually a lot more forgiving. It tends to understeer at first, so trail-braking helps to settle it into a turn, whereas the S2000 is more tail-happy and one must be careful with trail-braking.

Some find the S2000 rather tiring as a long-distance car, whereas the NSX will cruise easily, do the shopping, etc, as well as rip up a back road. It sort of feels more like a Prelude with the engine where the rear seats should be and is thus more of a 'traditional' Honda.

They've both got all the traditional Honda virtues of paragon ergonomics, excellent controls and that feeling that they're 'alive' even at moderate speeds.

So similar, yet so different.

ewand

775 posts

215 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Sillyhatday said:
have you had the chance to compare both cars?
I had 2 S2000s (a 2000 year AP1 from new, and a 2005 AP2 ex-demo) before running an NSX for 4 years (one of the OP's previous cars, no less), a 2003 facelift NSX-T manual (so 3.2, 6sp).

The S2000 is a lovely car; I'd say the AP2 looks better and it felt more grown up to a degree than the AP1. I had the post-Milbrook suspension geo done to the AP1 as it was extremely tail-happy in the wet, and not in a nice way. After the geo, it was a lot more confident and the AP2 was, for me, the same step forward again.

Until I picked up the NSX, I'd never driven one. On the first hour of driving I just couldn't believe how sweet it was; amazing visibility, really easy to drive smoothly and yet quickly without feeling anything like as frenetic or as jittery as the S2000 sometimes did. The VTEC point in the S2000 was like waiting, waiting, waiting, WAAAAAAA, whereas the NSX was nowhere near such a step change, it was more like a gradual WOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR which, combined with the mid-engine induction noise, was much more pleasing and complex. Like drinking a really nice Pinot Noir compared to a smack-in-the-face jammy new world Shiraz.

If you ever get the chance to own an NSX, take it - in many ways I wish I'd never sold mine, but it was time for a change as we'd done everything I wanted to do in the NSX (pan-Euro multi-week road trips, Nurburgring, Scottish Highlands, Wales...) The problem is now they're getting so expensive that it'll be even more of an off-beam choice for some; the fact that you're driving around in the NSX means you chose it over some more modern, maybe more "capable" cars. And it's getting to the point where any car sold for under 40 grand is going to have something wrong with it... and if you want a late model car, you'd better have north of 70k.

There's a great owners club over at NSXCB.co.uk and in the legend that is "Kaz", is one of (if not THE), world experts n the car. Running costs are very reasonable indeed, even if big stuff goes wrong (compared to other exotica).

The new NSX has a lot to live up to; similarly, anyone driving around in one will be saying they chose not to have a 911 Turbo, an R8, a Macca 570. Maybe in 20 years' time, we'll be looking back on the golden years of the NSX2, where only a few hundred were ever sold in the UK and how they're climbing in value and appreciated mostly by enthusiasts...

Edited by ewand on Saturday 5th March 17:20

danllama

5,728 posts

143 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Loving the videos above.

Sillyhatday

441 posts

100 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Thanks for the replies. Great to hear thoughts from enthusiasts. For me driving isn't racing, so to enjoy driving you'd take the car you find the most involving. So in my imagination the NSX wins on the pleasure of driving. Who cares if its slower. Lets not take it anymore off topic. smile

The videos are excellent above. On topic of this thread, I'd already seen the hot version video and the NSX Type R, but it was worth watching again! Plus that flying lap of the Nordschleife was superb. Great driving!

Have you ever been out the the Ring with one of your cars OP? I think I'd feel bad beating on such a rare and perfect example.

Neil-5ogx0

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48 posts

108 months

Sunday 6th March 2016
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Sillyhatday said:
Have you ever been out the the Ring with one of your cars OP? I think I'd feel bad beating on such a rare and perfect example.
No I have never taken any of my NSX around a track in anger. I did go around Suzuka in both versions of the NSX-R as a passenger, these were parade laps but both drivers were able to push the cars for short sections of the circuit.




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Neil-5ogx0

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Sunday 6th March 2016
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Sillyhatday said:
Thanks for the replies. Great to hear thoughts from enthusiasts. For me driving isn't racing, so to enjoy driving you'd take the car you find the most involving. So in my imagination the NSX wins on the pleasure of driving. Who cares if its slower. Lets not take it anymore off topic. smile.
So here is how to enjoy driving a NSX rather than racing - thanks to a fellow NSXCB member.

https://vimeo.com/155105308

Highest possible outright power or ultimate 0-60mph times are certainly no guarantee of a great drive for me. The NSX is a case where the "whole is greater than the sum of the parts" and the parts are pretty outstanding in the first place.

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Black S2K

1,486 posts

250 months

Sunday 6th March 2016
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Neil-5ogx0 said:
...Highest possible outright power or ultimate 0-60mph times are certainly no guarantee of a great drive for me. The NSX is a case where the "whole is greater than the sum of the parts" and the parts are pretty outstanding in the first place.
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That's precisely why I prefer one to its more modern alternatives!

It's not so stupidly fast and big as to be useless to drive, it actually covers ground stunningly effectively for its alleged power (mind you, Preludes could do that too!) and the detail engineering is utterly superb.

I suppose it's almost a lightwieght sports car by modern standards, almost in the MX-5/Elise/Evora category...funny that.