Citroen AX GT.......no idea what it's like!
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S10GTA said:
If all eBay listings contained war and peace like yours has then eBay would be a much better place. That is how you write and advert, clearly you have done something right as it's doing well on the auction. GLWS.
S10 says something nice about me. Copy, paste, print, frame.
Unpaid item case opened. Last time I sell a car on eBay, it's just a waste of time. Last three I've listed have all been won by messers, and you have to list a car 2 or 3 times before someone genuine comes along. Pointless.
I'll stick it in the classifieds at a later date, as it does need to go really, but at least it means I can keep enjoying it for a bit longer.
I'll stick it in the classifieds at a later date, as it does need to go really, but at least it means I can keep enjoying it for a bit longer.
That is the problem with ebay, it's a pain though as it's also the biggest market place and probably gives the most exposure. Just so many odd folk who seem to get a kick from buying things with no intention of actually buying!!
Try Car & Classic, you'll get to the right kind of people and its free.
Try Car & Classic, you'll get to the right kind of people and its free.
daniel-5zjw7 said:
That is the problem with ebay, it's a pain though as it's also the biggest market place and probably gives the most exposure. Just so many odd folk who seem to get a kick from buying things with no intention of actually buying!!
You're right, that seems to be what happens. I've don't know what goes through peoples' minds!Still, had an email from Practical Classics today, getting some details for the upcoming micro-feature, so it looks like that'll happen. It'll be nice if I still own it on that day
What a ballache 
I've always tended to use eBay Classifieds for this very reason, you get the exposure without the time wasters (mostly....the last car I sold I did get a few 'what's ur best price' emails to which I replied with the asking price plus £250
)
Hopefully you'll get the right result soon.
I've always tended to use eBay Classifieds for this very reason, you get the exposure without the time wasters (mostly....the last car I sold I did get a few 'what's ur best price' emails to which I replied with the asking price plus £250
)Hopefully you'll get the right result soon.
I'm just posting to bookmark this thread so I can come back and read it later.
I had an AX Forte 1.4 about 20 years ago - it was quite new at the time. It was an AX GT without the rear spoiler and with steelies to try and make it insurance friendly - one of the most amazing handling cars I have owned, but the offset seat, pedals and wheel gave me chronic back pain.
I had an AX Forte 1.4 about 20 years ago - it was quite new at the time. It was an AX GT without the rear spoiler and with steelies to try and make it insurance friendly - one of the most amazing handling cars I have owned, but the offset seat, pedals and wheel gave me chronic back pain.
Emeye said:
I'm just posting to bookmark this thread so I can come back and read it later.
I had an AX Forte 1.4 about 20 years ago - it was quite new at the time. It was an AX GT without the rear spoiler and with steelies to try and make it insurance friendly - one of the most amazing handling cars I have owned, but the offset seat, pedals and wheel gave me chronic back pain.
You know you can just click 'watch', right? I had an AX Forte 1.4 about 20 years ago - it was quite new at the time. It was an AX GT without the rear spoiler and with steelies to try and make it insurance friendly - one of the most amazing handling cars I have owned, but the offset seat, pedals and wheel gave me chronic back pain.
Driving position isn't for everyone. Even though I'm a company director by technicality, I'm built nothing like a company director. I don't even have tattoos, or a goatee. I do, however, fit into any car I've ever tried to sit in!
The early GT did have steelies and no spoiler, though it wasn't about the insurance so much, it was more the lightweight aspect; What it didn't need, it didn't get. Marketing got their way about a year into production and suggested body-coloured trim, a spoiler and some alloys might be worthwhile on the GT!
spyker138 said:
I bought one in 1990 and drove it round Spain for my honeymoon. Fantastic car. Wouldn't mind another.
They look good in black. My first one was a black G-reg version. Wouldn't have tried to drive it around Spain though!Update - unpaid item case opened, so at least I'll get my £42 Final Value Fee back. The £20 listing's long gone though, and eBay can get f
ked if they think they'll ever get another.
Had a thought over the weekend, which evolved into a 'Eureka' moment....
eBay does tend to favour the buyer in these situations, doesn't it? Up to a point, you agree, because they're the one spending their money, and they need protection from the shysters and pricks of the world.
However, the seller is eBay's customer, not the buyer. eBay's turnover comes from the seller's decision to sell on eBay, so surely the seller should have some protection in this too? They can't even leave negative feedback, to warn future sellers that this guy is a, and bids on cars he has no intention of buying. If I'd seen that on this guy's feedback, I'd have just cancelled his bid, and the next guy along would have got it.
And then it dawned on me! Of course eBay wont protect the seller! Why not? Because I'll go through the FVF refund process, settle every up, and then RELIST IT. Another £20 to eBay! eBay PROFIT from dhead bidders. Of course they're not going to fight against them.
And that's when I decided, that NEVER again will I list a car on eBay. Ever. I'll list tat and memorabilia, stuff that you list for free and that you post, but cars and the like? Pointless. It's good for exposure (the classifieds would have sufficed, but what's done is done now) but that's about it. Otherwise, you, as a seller, get rogered by eBay and their collective nobheads time, and time again.
ked if they think they'll ever get another.Had a thought over the weekend, which evolved into a 'Eureka' moment....
eBay does tend to favour the buyer in these situations, doesn't it? Up to a point, you agree, because they're the one spending their money, and they need protection from the shysters and pricks of the world.
However, the seller is eBay's customer, not the buyer. eBay's turnover comes from the seller's decision to sell on eBay, so surely the seller should have some protection in this too? They can't even leave negative feedback, to warn future sellers that this guy is a
, and bids on cars he has no intention of buying. If I'd seen that on this guy's feedback, I'd have just cancelled his bid, and the next guy along would have got it.And then it dawned on me! Of course eBay wont protect the seller! Why not? Because I'll go through the FVF refund process, settle every up, and then RELIST IT. Another £20 to eBay! eBay PROFIT from d
head bidders. Of course they're not going to fight against them.And that's when I decided, that NEVER again will I list a car on eBay. Ever. I'll list tat and memorabilia, stuff that you list for free and that you post, but cars and the like? Pointless. It's good for exposure (the classifieds would have sufficed, but what's done is done now) but that's about it. Otherwise, you, as a seller, get rogered by eBay and their collective nobheads time, and time again.
Been meaning to try and update AX proceedings for some time, but life's been so busy recently I've struggled to find time! It's not just other cars; Work's really busy (which, I guess is still other cars, technically speaking), we're putting a new kitchen in the house and I'm tarting up the garage at home etc. I somehow manage to make my life really busy, seemingly just so I can moan about it.
Speaking of moaning, the AX attracts a high proportion of nobheads, it seems. I could wax lyrical about the sheer number of people who've shown an interest in the car, only to then go quiet, change their minds....you name it! I don't want to sell the thing as it is, but I know that realistically I have to, hence it's still for sale. Doesn't help when so many people seem to get a kick out of showing interest in cars they actually have no intention of buying. If they'd changed their minds, I wouldn't mind if they had the courtesy to ring me and apologise or something, but they're so spineless that they just go quiet. It's utterly bizarre. Nobody's actually had a proper look at it yet!
On the plus side, the car's been great! I haven't done much to it recently, other than drive it (which is really the way it's meant to be!)
We had a kid-free day shortly after the 'auction' ended, so the wife and I took it out for a 100 mile runaround including zipping all over the New Forest:
The AX proved a most useful tool through the narrow, yet bumpy and lumpy lanes. Good at dodging ponies too! We were supposed to take the TVR, but I didn't have it ready in time. I actually enjoy driving the AX around as much as the TVR anyway, but my wife doesn't quite get the love for it! 40mpg, a good ride, comfy seats and responsive throttle with short gearing are the only reasons I need, but I'm guessing sitting in a tiny, tinny French hatchback with a crap 80's stereo isn't her idea of fun...
I might have mentioned previously that one of the reasons I was in no hurry to sell was that I actually had some plans lined up for the car. First off was a 'jaunt' up to Lincolnshire! Burghley House is the location of many car meets, including the first TVR Car Club event of each year, but seeing as I'd allowed my membership to lapse in order to join the Hillman Imp club, I'd not gone to it. Therefore, my first (and almost certainly, my only) trip to Burghley of 2017 turned out to be in an AX GT back at the end of April, and to the Citroen Car Club's 'X-Rally'. Those of you in the Sherlock mould will have deduced that the 'X' is relevant to certain members of the Citroen model line-ups of years gone by, and that it must be an event centred around them. Well, yes, kinda. It's any Citroen, really. And a VX220 was there, plus an XJS. Hey, if you don't put it in the T&Cs.....
Our AX breezed (aka sat noisily at 4000rpm/70mph for large enough periods of time for me to reconsider my existence as a living being) up the A3, M25 and A1(M) and arrived around 11am with no issues to report, other than not being able to pick up a decent radio station for more than 2 minute segments of the morning at a time. It didn't receive a clean for the event, it just arrived in its everyday clothes, seats folded carrying four alloy wheels and a dashboard.
Lots of very nice metal up there though (if you're into that kind of thing), including what is probably one of the best Saxo VTS' in the country (and can be seen briefly in the first edition of Modern Classics magazine):
The AX continued its good form onto the return leg of the journey, where it sat at *ahem* considerably more than 4000rpm for large parts of the journey, as I wanted to get home in good time (albeit 80% deaf on arrival). Fuel consumption suffered!
Nearly 350 miles after I set off, the AX performed faultlessly, and arrived back adorned with its day's killings:
All joking aside, those bugs must have hampered progress. The AX doesn't weight much more, and I'm pretty sure I could detect each individual impact scrubbing off 1 or 2mph at a time!
More recently, the AX gained some national press. Some time ago, I was approached by one of the Citroen-loving chaps at Practical Classics magazine. He wanted to use the AX in their latest back-page feature on high milers. A couple of pics by my mate Andy of Lurntwubber Photography, and a few lines to answer their questions at PC, and an AX GT hit the printers. So on my way to work in it last week, I stopped to buy this:
And found this:
Which was nice!
However, the niceness doesn't stop there. More niceness is to come, because the AX GT was taken out for thecaining of a lifetime drive by a friend of mine who writes for Autocar. It seems the have a feature where they take a trip down memory lane and review an older car, and he was keen to jump aboard the AX-wagon! A photographer was obtained, and they set out in the AX. The intention is a review of the AX GT as a model, rather than covering the story of this particular car, as PC did.
It wasn't a completely 'regular' photoshoot, however:
That's 'Pierre', the French bear (total coincidence!) He'd been brought home by one of my kids, with instructions to do stuff with him and document it in a diary (I suggested mailing him to the Faroe Islands and cable tying him to the back of a Scotland-bound freight train and taking a picture for giggles, but the kids didn't think the teacher would see the funny side). So, Pierre (probably for the first and only time) went on an Autocar roadtest. I asked my friend if he'd be able to feature the bear in the mag, and I'm not saying he said no in that exact term, but he did say no.
However, I did request that he thrash the AX as hard as he wished, as long as photos were captured of it on 3-wheels. Sad to report, he couldn't confirm it cocking a wheel of any corner as it has "So much suspension travel!" Though I'm assured he gave it his best shot!
I also insisted he was honest about it in both praise and criticism, and to forget the fact he knows me, so I'm very much looking forward to reading about it when it goes to print. He did arrive back with a grin on his face, and proclaimed that he liked it, which is praise indeed from a man who doesn't naturally like small hatchbacks! In fact, he said he preferred it to the Renault 5 GT Turbo, and said it didn't feel like it had done anywhere near the mileage it says. In fairness, many of the mechanical parts haven't!
I'll tip the wink when the Autocar goes on sale, sans Pierre.
Speaking of moaning, the AX attracts a high proportion of nobheads, it seems. I could wax lyrical about the sheer number of people who've shown an interest in the car, only to then go quiet, change their minds....you name it! I don't want to sell the thing as it is, but I know that realistically I have to, hence it's still for sale. Doesn't help when so many people seem to get a kick out of showing interest in cars they actually have no intention of buying. If they'd changed their minds, I wouldn't mind if they had the courtesy to ring me and apologise or something, but they're so spineless that they just go quiet. It's utterly bizarre. Nobody's actually had a proper look at it yet!
On the plus side, the car's been great! I haven't done much to it recently, other than drive it (which is really the way it's meant to be!)
We had a kid-free day shortly after the 'auction' ended, so the wife and I took it out for a 100 mile runaround including zipping all over the New Forest:
The AX proved a most useful tool through the narrow, yet bumpy and lumpy lanes. Good at dodging ponies too! We were supposed to take the TVR, but I didn't have it ready in time. I actually enjoy driving the AX around as much as the TVR anyway, but my wife doesn't quite get the love for it! 40mpg, a good ride, comfy seats and responsive throttle with short gearing are the only reasons I need, but I'm guessing sitting in a tiny, tinny French hatchback with a crap 80's stereo isn't her idea of fun...
I might have mentioned previously that one of the reasons I was in no hurry to sell was that I actually had some plans lined up for the car. First off was a 'jaunt' up to Lincolnshire! Burghley House is the location of many car meets, including the first TVR Car Club event of each year, but seeing as I'd allowed my membership to lapse in order to join the Hillman Imp club, I'd not gone to it. Therefore, my first (and almost certainly, my only) trip to Burghley of 2017 turned out to be in an AX GT back at the end of April, and to the Citroen Car Club's 'X-Rally'. Those of you in the Sherlock mould will have deduced that the 'X' is relevant to certain members of the Citroen model line-ups of years gone by, and that it must be an event centred around them. Well, yes, kinda. It's any Citroen, really. And a VX220 was there, plus an XJS. Hey, if you don't put it in the T&Cs.....
Our AX breezed (aka sat noisily at 4000rpm/70mph for large enough periods of time for me to reconsider my existence as a living being) up the A3, M25 and A1(M) and arrived around 11am with no issues to report, other than not being able to pick up a decent radio station for more than 2 minute segments of the morning at a time. It didn't receive a clean for the event, it just arrived in its everyday clothes, seats folded carrying four alloy wheels and a dashboard.
Lots of very nice metal up there though (if you're into that kind of thing), including what is probably one of the best Saxo VTS' in the country (and can be seen briefly in the first edition of Modern Classics magazine):
The AX continued its good form onto the return leg of the journey, where it sat at *ahem* considerably more than 4000rpm for large parts of the journey, as I wanted to get home in good time (albeit 80% deaf on arrival). Fuel consumption suffered!
Nearly 350 miles after I set off, the AX performed faultlessly, and arrived back adorned with its day's killings:
All joking aside, those bugs must have hampered progress. The AX doesn't weight much more, and I'm pretty sure I could detect each individual impact scrubbing off 1 or 2mph at a time!
More recently, the AX gained some national press. Some time ago, I was approached by one of the Citroen-loving chaps at Practical Classics magazine. He wanted to use the AX in their latest back-page feature on high milers. A couple of pics by my mate Andy of Lurntwubber Photography, and a few lines to answer their questions at PC, and an AX GT hit the printers. So on my way to work in it last week, I stopped to buy this:
And found this:
Which was nice!
However, the niceness doesn't stop there. More niceness is to come, because the AX GT was taken out for the
It wasn't a completely 'regular' photoshoot, however:
That's 'Pierre', the French bear (total coincidence!) He'd been brought home by one of my kids, with instructions to do stuff with him and document it in a diary (I suggested mailing him to the Faroe Islands and cable tying him to the back of a Scotland-bound freight train and taking a picture for giggles, but the kids didn't think the teacher would see the funny side). So, Pierre (probably for the first and only time) went on an Autocar roadtest. I asked my friend if he'd be able to feature the bear in the mag, and I'm not saying he said no in that exact term, but he did say no.
However, I did request that he thrash the AX as hard as he wished, as long as photos were captured of it on 3-wheels. Sad to report, he couldn't confirm it cocking a wheel of any corner as it has "So much suspension travel!" Though I'm assured he gave it his best shot!
I also insisted he was honest about it in both praise and criticism, and to forget the fact he knows me, so I'm very much looking forward to reading about it when it goes to print. He did arrive back with a grin on his face, and proclaimed that he liked it, which is praise indeed from a man who doesn't naturally like small hatchbacks! In fact, he said he preferred it to the Renault 5 GT Turbo, and said it didn't feel like it had done anywhere near the mileage it says. In fairness, many of the mechanical parts haven't!
I'll tip the wink when the Autocar goes on sale, sans Pierre.
Deposit taken, AX sold
Probably my last week with it, but the new owner's getting a great car! Been enjoyable all the way and I think I might make this my last AX GT, as I'll be finishing on a high. Had some fantastic drives in it, good memories and lots of fun.
I'm gonna dig the BX 16v back out next month to take my mind off it...
Probably my last week with it, but the new owner's getting a great car! Been enjoyable all the way and I think I might make this my last AX GT, as I'll be finishing on a high. Had some fantastic drives in it, good memories and lots of fun.
I'm gonna dig the BX 16v back out next month to take my mind off it...
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