LOH's 2016 Civic Type-R, contains spoilers**
Discussion
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I know you've taken an interest in quite a few of the cars I've owned melvster, but believe me when I say this one is up there with the best of them. From the cars I've had that have piqued your interest I'd say the Type-R is bonafide special in a way that very few cars ever are. If you have the means, I'd highly recommend getting in to one.
You've owned a few cars i'd love to try, GP2, CSL (although i know you're not a fan of the 'box), R26R and now the Civic. A new job which i start next week should help me sort out one of these at some point in the future. I'll be buying used purely because of the hit they've taken in the first 12 months. Gonna be honest, the white doesn't do it for me, nor do I think it does the car any justice, each to their own though - it (the car as a whole) seems much maligned and every person buying into the idea fills me with joy, even though I have only done so myself this last day or so!
Roll on Thursday
Roll on Thursday
Finance wise, I'd be looking at a nearly new car at £5k under list, they will still give you the headline 5% on a pcp at the moment i think.
I don't own a crystal ball, but I think they will become sought after at 2 years old and be retailing at low £20k's at 3 years. If you buy in now at £27-28k that's 3 years cheap motoring for the performance in my opinion.
With the tech and performance on the car, I'd want a manufacturers warranty for as long as I could get so buying new worked for me, plus they gave daft money on my part ex. Realistically, I reckon I paid about a grand more to buy new than second hand which pushed me away from the sub-1 year old nearly new examples. Plus I'm happy to admit I like being the first owner
I don't own a crystal ball, but I think they will become sought after at 2 years old and be retailing at low £20k's at 3 years. If you buy in now at £27-28k that's 3 years cheap motoring for the performance in my opinion.
With the tech and performance on the car, I'd want a manufacturers warranty for as long as I could get so buying new worked for me, plus they gave daft money on my part ex. Realistically, I reckon I paid about a grand more to buy new than second hand which pushed me away from the sub-1 year old nearly new examples. Plus I'm happy to admit I like being the first owner
They soon folded on the cheaper finance being "new car only", I had been in a few times so I wasn't a new prospect in that sense and tbh I was in no rush to buy so I was in no mood to be bent over a barrell, still, going from owning my Clio outright to a monthly payment will sting.
However I leased a Volvo V40 alongside
the Clio at one point so ending up with nuthin' at the end of the term isn't totally alien to me, I'm just a tight Yorkshireman!!
Mine is a 16 plate with just shy of 400 on the clock, I just wonder of those few hundred miles were tough uns'. Ah well, I'll live I guess!!
However I leased a Volvo V40 alongside
the Clio at one point so ending up with nuthin' at the end of the term isn't totally alien to me, I'm just a tight Yorkshireman!!
Mine is a 16 plate with just shy of 400 on the clock, I just wonder of those few hundred miles were tough uns'. Ah well, I'll live I guess!!
Love this - I've seen a couple of these out and about, and I always have to do a double take. Looks a bit like the lamborghinis of old - like a space ship!
My girlfriend keeps telling me she doesn't like silly sports cars, particularly ones that draw attention to themselves, but fk it, I'd have one in a flash! It's exactly the right amount of crazy.
My girlfriend keeps telling me she doesn't like silly sports cars, particularly ones that draw attention to themselves, but fk it, I'd have one in a flash! It's exactly the right amount of crazy.
Busy at work so apologies for the tardy continuation of the thread, where were we again? Ah yes, a frosty April morning in Germany......
So as you may imagine, the track wasn't open first thing but it didn't take too long to get going. The first 3 laps were sighting laps, no overtaking but a decent speed in which to learn the track. Co-driver had driven the 'ring before (actually in my MX5 which I detailed in my previous thread) but we're only talking a handful of laps. To make matters worse he isn't always the best passenger and has to concentrate hard on not seeing his breakfast again so he did the first laps in the car. He did all three sighting laps and it was a really nice way to teach him some lines, if you've ever been before you'll know how tough it is to learn when you're constantly worried about cars thundering up behind.
Once sighting laps were done we swapped over and I got to take the car out to see what it could really do
With +R mode switched on again the car is absolutely planted, no roll through the corners whatsoever;
I know these manufacturers always go on about downforce and I (like most petrolheads) take it all with a pinch of salt. Can it really give you proper downforce? maybe negative lift but hand on heart it feels like it's being sucked down into the track. Theres a bumpy section near the start of the track just before hatzenbach where we were actually jumping out our seats a little, all through this the car just sat flat on the track. Four point harnesses are definitely on the shopping list....
+R also gives the steering quite a nice bit of weight, you rally feel like you're working for it, The Continental Sport Contact 6' that the car comes on aren't specifically track tyres but they do give a nice balance between grip and feel and are softer than regular road tyres. Dale from Bridge To Gantry remarked he thought it would be better on 18' wheels like his Seat and i reckon he'd be right. The tyres do a great job, especially at the 'ring where the tarmac is quite nice and smooth for a racetrack but if they were 18' you could get a little more sidewall on them which would really give you something to lean on. It didn't piss me off on the day, but thinking back I reckon it would be better.
My best mate Steve who was out in his gorgeous 911 GTS went out for a lap with us and Ross my co-driver for the day hooked up his GoPro to record;
https://youtu.be/DHkA_SNFOHA
As you can see we got a little traffic and seeing as it was only 2 days old I was a probably a bit more polite than I normally would be! Steve is a fantastic driver however and I was pleased we could keep up in the family bus We'v been doing these 'ring trips together for years now and I think we're pretty well matched though he definitely drives his cars harder than I do mine! He's not afraid in giving the car some stick, I'm all to aware I need the car to drive to work on Monday after the fun is over. Cracking bit of kit the 911GTs is however and feels like it could some up the abuse all day. Surprisingly tough to drive as well, I know people go on about how the 991 went all soft but I think that's all cobblers, it's a very physical car to drive and I really enjoyed the laps I drove in it.
Speaking of Porsches, this little video is quite good fun, the family bus in with a gaggle of 911 GT3s and GT2s;
https://youtu.be/CO2rtz2Qu_k
As you can see, much fun was being had and I must say I take my hat off to Destination Nurburg for their exemplary running of the day. We only had one closure all day when a fellow PH'r (I think) put his gorgeous red GT3 into the barrier at Tiergarten, but from what I heard there were no injuries apart from to the car
The car was doing quite well on fuel as well which surprised me a lot, I presumed it would be thirstier
Early afternoon however we were starting to put some really good sub 8:30 laps together when coming around the last looooooonnnngg right hander at Döttinger Höhethe car spluttered, the engine warning light came home and the car went into limp home mode
Back in the car park we took a look over it. Now our first thought was fuelling, the car was getting empty (though the warning light wasn't on) and the corner is a really long one, could the pump have momentarily run dry throwing up a fault code? Strangely the oil temperature gauge wasn't reading either but the oil level was fine. I rang Honda but understandably they didn't ant to try and diagnose over the phone with no way to do a reset. Their advice was to simply fill it up and see what happened and if it didn't solve things to ring up Honda European Breakdown which I thought was all fair enough.
The car did seem to go back to normal as soon as we started it again although the warning light did stay on, we put it down to the low fuel and a bit of surge and it didn't happen again. I guess they weren't running on fumes to get that 7:50 ring lap tim eh?!
We even got to spend some track time with some PH'r and his old golf
Apparently some journalists were most surprised by the speed of the little green beastie!
So much fun was had by all The family bus was given it's badge of honour and had performed amazingly well, little hiccup not withstanding. I have since had the car booked in with Honda just to check for fault codes but as it wasn't the right type apparently the car erased it (or the wrong the I guess). Honda presumed it was fuel surge as well so I'm just going to run it until quarter full on track now and see if it ever happens again.
This isn't the end of the trip however, after picking up our bags from the guesthouse we were on our way to Belgium and Spa Francorchamps.......
TBC
So as you may imagine, the track wasn't open first thing but it didn't take too long to get going. The first 3 laps were sighting laps, no overtaking but a decent speed in which to learn the track. Co-driver had driven the 'ring before (actually in my MX5 which I detailed in my previous thread) but we're only talking a handful of laps. To make matters worse he isn't always the best passenger and has to concentrate hard on not seeing his breakfast again so he did the first laps in the car. He did all three sighting laps and it was a really nice way to teach him some lines, if you've ever been before you'll know how tough it is to learn when you're constantly worried about cars thundering up behind.
Once sighting laps were done we swapped over and I got to take the car out to see what it could really do
With +R mode switched on again the car is absolutely planted, no roll through the corners whatsoever;
I know these manufacturers always go on about downforce and I (like most petrolheads) take it all with a pinch of salt. Can it really give you proper downforce? maybe negative lift but hand on heart it feels like it's being sucked down into the track. Theres a bumpy section near the start of the track just before hatzenbach where we were actually jumping out our seats a little, all through this the car just sat flat on the track. Four point harnesses are definitely on the shopping list....
+R also gives the steering quite a nice bit of weight, you rally feel like you're working for it, The Continental Sport Contact 6' that the car comes on aren't specifically track tyres but they do give a nice balance between grip and feel and are softer than regular road tyres. Dale from Bridge To Gantry remarked he thought it would be better on 18' wheels like his Seat and i reckon he'd be right. The tyres do a great job, especially at the 'ring where the tarmac is quite nice and smooth for a racetrack but if they were 18' you could get a little more sidewall on them which would really give you something to lean on. It didn't piss me off on the day, but thinking back I reckon it would be better.
My best mate Steve who was out in his gorgeous 911 GTS went out for a lap with us and Ross my co-driver for the day hooked up his GoPro to record;
https://youtu.be/DHkA_SNFOHA
As you can see we got a little traffic and seeing as it was only 2 days old I was a probably a bit more polite than I normally would be! Steve is a fantastic driver however and I was pleased we could keep up in the family bus We'v been doing these 'ring trips together for years now and I think we're pretty well matched though he definitely drives his cars harder than I do mine! He's not afraid in giving the car some stick, I'm all to aware I need the car to drive to work on Monday after the fun is over. Cracking bit of kit the 911GTs is however and feels like it could some up the abuse all day. Surprisingly tough to drive as well, I know people go on about how the 991 went all soft but I think that's all cobblers, it's a very physical car to drive and I really enjoyed the laps I drove in it.
Speaking of Porsches, this little video is quite good fun, the family bus in with a gaggle of 911 GT3s and GT2s;
https://youtu.be/CO2rtz2Qu_k
As you can see, much fun was being had and I must say I take my hat off to Destination Nurburg for their exemplary running of the day. We only had one closure all day when a fellow PH'r (I think) put his gorgeous red GT3 into the barrier at Tiergarten, but from what I heard there were no injuries apart from to the car
The car was doing quite well on fuel as well which surprised me a lot, I presumed it would be thirstier
Early afternoon however we were starting to put some really good sub 8:30 laps together when coming around the last looooooonnnngg right hander at Döttinger Höhethe car spluttered, the engine warning light came home and the car went into limp home mode
Back in the car park we took a look over it. Now our first thought was fuelling, the car was getting empty (though the warning light wasn't on) and the corner is a really long one, could the pump have momentarily run dry throwing up a fault code? Strangely the oil temperature gauge wasn't reading either but the oil level was fine. I rang Honda but understandably they didn't ant to try and diagnose over the phone with no way to do a reset. Their advice was to simply fill it up and see what happened and if it didn't solve things to ring up Honda European Breakdown which I thought was all fair enough.
The car did seem to go back to normal as soon as we started it again although the warning light did stay on, we put it down to the low fuel and a bit of surge and it didn't happen again. I guess they weren't running on fumes to get that 7:50 ring lap tim eh?!
We even got to spend some track time with some PH'r and his old golf
Apparently some journalists were most surprised by the speed of the little green beastie!
So much fun was had by all The family bus was given it's badge of honour and had performed amazingly well, little hiccup not withstanding. I have since had the car booked in with Honda just to check for fault codes but as it wasn't the right type apparently the car erased it (or the wrong the I guess). Honda presumed it was fuel surge as well so I'm just going to run it until quarter full on track now and see if it ever happens again.
This isn't the end of the trip however, after picking up our bags from the guesthouse we were on our way to Belgium and Spa Francorchamps.......
TBC
Great update again - I'll get a few photos of mine up at some point, but it looks exactly the same!
It's bloody filthy at the moment too - only had it six days, argh
FYI your posts were one of the big factors in me getting my arse in gear and signing on the dotted line as it were, cheers
It's bloody filthy at the moment too - only had it six days, argh
FYI your posts were one of the big factors in me getting my arse in gear and signing on the dotted line as it were, cheers
LaurasOtherHalf said:
5ohmustang said:
If you baby it on the motorway, cruise at 70mph, what mpg do you get?
Good question, not sure is my answer. I suspect like most modern cars if you baby it at 65-70mph it'll be quite highAxionknight said:
mattyc69 said:
Just put my deposit down, got a cracking deal on a GT.
Going to be the longest two weeks of my life! First ever new car!
What colour? Details man, details man.Going to be the longest two weeks of my life! First ever new car!
Make sure you head over to the general gassing thread versus the Focus RS to take sides, handbags ahoy!!
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