Caterham Superlight Twenty

Caterham Superlight Twenty

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nigelpugh7

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6,038 posts

190 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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jimmy7 said:
Looking great Nigel, will have to arrange a drive out somewhere soon!

Shame I had the full screen on here really, but had to leave the car over night! Not strictly part of the 'Superlight' ethos!

Yes of course James, plenty of lovely country pubs in your neck of the woods!,

Must meet up for a pie and a pint!


mak250300

111 posts

102 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Lovely car. Enjoy I am not jealous one bit.

Where was the picture taken? Looks a bit like the Torridon road.

carphotographer

500 posts

195 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Great car ....
Any idea how much the heater weighs .... windscreen, wiper motor, ignition switch and carpet set. what else could I remove

nigelpugh7

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6,038 posts

190 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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mak250300 said:
Lovely car. Enjoy I am not jealous one bit.

Where was the picture taken? Looks a bit like the Torridon road.
Are you asking about my photos? Of the ones of james car, they are both Superlight Twentys, as you know.

My shots were taken at a local,lake, arrow valley,,very local to me, then the other ones at the long Mynd in Shropshire.

James shots were taken in Wales I think, I believe he was on the Evo triangle , sure james will confirm.

Daveyraveygravey

2,026 posts

184 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Have pined for a Caterham since the Performance Car "Prisoner" issue in the 80's. To me, it is the best car, if you want anything else, you don't really get cars. Leccy chairs, Bluetooth and self-park? For fk sake! Even leccy windows are pointless

nigelpugh7

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6,038 posts

190 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Daveyraveygravey said:
Have pined for a Caterham since the Performance Car "Prisoner" issue in the 80's. To me, it is the best car, if you want anything else, you don't really get cars. Leccy chairs, Bluetooth and self-park? For fk sake! Even leccy windows are pointless
Good man, great point, and your right, Colin Chapmans ethos of add lightness and simplify still stands.

And yes I take for granted just how Simple and " right " Caterhams can be.

And to add to your points..

no power steering.

No abs.

Not even any servo assistance on the brakes.

And as you said, it's all,the better for it too!

clarki

1,313 posts

219 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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That is fantastic.

Come so close to buying on a few occasions now but always backed out at the last minute. Always wondered just how much use I'd get out of one on the road - rented a BaT R300 for a trackday a number of times now.

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Saturday 11th June 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
Thanks to Matt Bird from Pistonheads, this thread and my new Superlight Twenty are now featured as the " Readers Car of the week"

I do hope this won't turn into something like " Readers Wives " from all this 70's lads mags! wink

Thanks anyway guys!
You're welcome, it was too lovely to pass up. Enjoy!

nigelpugh7

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190 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Matt Bird said:
You're welcome, it was too lovely to pass up. Enjoy!
Thanks again Matt, it was very special to be featured as " Readers Car of the Week! "

Isn't there some form of special Pistonheads sticker for members of that exclusive club?

I would love to proudly display that on my Supelight Twenty for all to see!

By the way, due to being featured on readers car of the week, my views on my blog went through the roof yesterday.

We got 2300 views yesterday and nearly all of them came from Pistonheads pages! So thanks again, as we normally only get about 3000 a month!

http://superlighttwenty.blogspot.co.uk



anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
Isn't there some form of special Pistonheads sticker for members of that exclusive club?

I would love to proudly display that on my Supelight Twenty for all to see!
But.... that's extra weight? wink

Tickle

4,917 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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jimmy7 said:
Looking great Nigel, will have to arrange a drive out somewhere soon!

Shame I had the full screen on here really, but had to leave the car over night! Not strictly part of the 'Superlight' ethos!

Great place for a photo, a section of road I love



Nigel, do you still have your other 7 (500)

Also, how do the manuals compare with the sequential of your (old?) 500?

Great cars!

nigelpugh7

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190 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Hi there,

Nope both of my R500's are sold, my last one was the green R500 with the six speed box.

My new twenty has the six speed box, I do much prefer the 6 speed gearbox for road caterhams,

The Quaife sequential box in my white R500 was very harsh and noisy, great for a track weapon but not for everyday road use.


nigelpugh7

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190 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Matt Bird said:
You're welcome, it was too lovely to pass up. Enjoy!
Still waiting to hear if we get a Readers Car of the Week sticker to put on our cars Matt!


SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
Hi there,

Nope both of my R500's are sold, my last one was the green R500 with the six speed box.

My new twenty has the six speed box, I do much prefer the 6 speed gearbox for road caterhams,

The Quaife sequential box in my white R500 was very harsh and noisy, great for a track weapon but not for everyday road use.
Nigel, how does the 20 comparing to your old R500 as a driving machine?

I have one of the last original K Series Superlights and think it is sodding brilliant as a road and occasional track car. I am a Caterham 'lifer' and do think I may go for a 420 or 500 at some point. Problem is that my 140 ish bhp SL is pretty much perfect.

Not sure my car plus £20k will give me any bigger thrills and will mean I may be deep into licence losing territory.

I recently drove a 360R back to back against mine and didn't think thr newer car was better for a variety of reasons. And didn't feel night and day faster.

nigelpugh7

Original Poster:

6,038 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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SidewaysSi said:
Nigel, how does the 20 comparing to your old R500 as a driving machine?

I have one of the last original K Series Superlights and think it is sodding brilliant as a road and occasional track car. I am a Caterham 'lifer' and do think I may go for a 420 or 500 at some point. Problem is that my 140 ish bhp SL is pretty much perfect.

Not sure my car plus £20k will give me any bigger thrills and will mean I may be deep into licence losing territory.

I recently drove a 360R back to back against mine and didn't think thr newer car was better for a variety of reasons. And didn't feel night and day faster.
It's an interesting comparison, of course they are both and different ends of the spectrum in performance.

But the difference is not a much as you would imagine.

My Superlight Twenty seems alive and so much more fun to drive, even with half the power of my R500.

I'm not sure if it's the fact that it's lighter at the front due to the sigma engine, or if the whole balance of the car is better.

Anyway it's a lot of fun,,and I don't miss the R500 one bit.



SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Nigel, how does the 20 comparing to your old R500 as a driving machine?

I have one of the last original K Series Superlights and think it is sodding brilliant as a road and occasional track car. I am a Caterham 'lifer' and do think I may go for a 420 or 500 at some point. Problem is that my 140 ish bhp SL is pretty much perfect.

Not sure my car plus £20k will give me any bigger thrills and will mean I may be deep into licence losing territory.

I recently drove a 360R back to back against mine and didn't think thr newer car was better for a variety of reasons. And didn't feel night and day faster.
It's an interesting comparison, of course they are both and different ends of the spectrum in performance.

But the difference is not a much as you would imagine.

My Superlight Twenty seems alive and so much more fun to drive, even with half the power of my R500.

I'm not sure if it's the fact that it's lighter at the front due to the sigma engine, or if the whole balance of the car is better.

Anyway it's a lot of fun,,and I don't miss the R500 one bit.
Thanks Nigel, interesting thoughts and mirrors my concerns. I did wonder if an R400/500 is a comparatively heavy, blunt instrument :-)

RenPug

630 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Really nice 7 Nigel.

I've wanted a Caterham for years and always told myself one day it would happen. I went to Asda Make your Marks day at Bruntingthorpe about 4 years ago and Caterham Midlands were there and doing a raffle to win a weekend hire. Obviously I bought a few tickets and kept my fingers crossed. I then managed to get a passenger lap in an R500 which I later realised was yours after seeing some of your photos. Less than 10 minutes after getting out of your car I got a phone call to say I had won the raffle and the weekend hire was mine.

Being unable to wait I booked it for a month later taking a gamble the weather would be ok. On the Friday afternoon I turned up to Caterham Midlands (in the rain typically) and was given a bright orange 125 Sigma for the weekend.



Not really wanting to use my mileage limit up in the rain I took it home and hoped the rain would have stopped by the morning. Saturday morning came and the rain had cleared so off I went to get some miles in. Less than an hour later I left a friends house got just up the road and the car cut out, completely dead. After waiting for the AA and being recovered back it turned out the starter motor had stuck on, overspun and fried itself knocking out the rest of the electrics to the vehicle causing it to stall and that was the end of my weekend.

Luckily Caterham Midlands gave me another weekends hire and being sensible i decided to wait until the following year to improve the chances of good weather. I booked it for my birthday weekend and turned up to collect it and was presented this time with a 140 Sigma.

]

I had an excellent weekend in this car and it made me realise that I really need a Caterham in my garage. The following birthday I was still in no better place to be affording one so booked another weekend hire and had the same green and yellow car for the weekend and the need for a Caterham hadn't faded.

That was 2 years ago now, finally 2 weeks ago I picked my own car up, an original Superlight.



Roll on the British summer!

Edited by RenPug on Saturday 25th June 18:36

nigelpugh7

Original Poster:

6,038 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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RenPug said:
Really nice 7 Nigel.

I've wanted a Caterham for years and always told myself one day it would happen. I went to Asda Make your Marks day at Bruntingthorpe about 4 years ago and Caterham Midlands were there and doing a raffle to win a weekend hire. Obviously I bought a few tickets and kept my fingers crossed. I then managed to get a passenger lap in an R500 which I later realised was yours after seeing some of your photos. Less than 10 minutes after getting out of your car I got a phone call to say I had won the raffle and the weekend hire was mine.

Being unable to wait I booked it for a month later taking a gamble the weather would be ok. On the Friday afternoon I turned up to Caterham Midlands (in the rain typically) and was given a bright orange 125 Sigma for the weekend.



Not really wanting to use my mileage limit up in the rain I took it home and hoped the rain would have stopped by the morning. Saturday morning came and the rain had cleared so off I went to get some miles in. Less than an hour later I left a friends house got just up the road and the car cut out, completely dead. After waiting for the AA and being recovered back it turned out the starter motor had stuck on, overspun and fried itself knocking out the rest of the electrics to the vehicle causing it to stall and that was the end of my weekend.

Luckily Caterham Midlands gave me another weekends hire and being sensible i decided to wait until the following year to improve the chances of good weather. I booked it for my birthday weekend and turned up to collect it and was presented this time with a 140 Sigma.

]

I had an excellent weekend in this car and it made me realise that I really need a Caterham in my garage. The following birthday I was still in no better place to be affording one so booked another weekend hire and had the same green and yellow car for the weekend and the need for a Caterham hadn't faded.

That was 2 years ago now, finally 2 weeks ago I picked my own car up, an original Superlight.



Roll on the British summer!

Edited by RenPug on Saturday 25th June 18:36
Great stuff, glad I inspired you!

Was it one of these?
https://youtu.be/gQzCpFfNg4w

RenPug

630 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
Great stuff, glad I inspired you!

Was it one of these?
https://youtu.be/gQzCpFfNg4w
I could only see 2 videos and it was neither of them.

Are you there again this year?

Master Bean

3,567 posts

120 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Any new news?