A shed of a 1972 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

A shed of a 1972 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

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Slow

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6,973 posts

137 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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This thing.

https://www.introcar.co.uk/rolls-royce-bentley-mod...

Was brittle and cracked, was never going to be used tongue out

Poisson96

2,098 posts

131 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Prove the naysayers wrong and bring it to a meet

jhonn

1,567 posts

149 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Slow said:
Just wanted to see if it would turn over...
And it did! That in itself is encouraging - nice to see some progress - keep at it. thumbup

(You could try squirting some Easy-Start fluid in to the carbs while cranking to see if it would fire. Rig up a gravity feed to the carbs, etc. Then again, maybe that's getting too far ahead - no coolant in it, etc - tempting though!)

I know what you mean about the midges - they'd drive a man feckin' mad. They seem pretty bad this year, the warm wet weather is ideal for them.

rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Not seized, which is a start.

The video is not quite long enough to be sure, but it sounds like there is a catch in the starter - possibly a low compression cylinder. If you have a mate with an oscilloscope, get them to put a current clamp on the power cable to the starter. If all the cylinders are pulling the same current...this is good.

If good, toss a few tablespoons of petrol down the carb throats - it will fire if it has sparks.

Slow

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6,973 posts

137 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Hopefully sometime this week I will try to get it running. Same as my mums corvette which had been sat for 15 years, petrol can on the roof, easy start and pray. Worked for the vette and my e30 which sat for 5 years.

Huntsman

8,054 posts

250 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Have you got a spark at the plugs? There is a couple of things required to get the dizzy live, neutral switch and I think there's an oil pressure or blocked filter one too.

Easy to run a wire from battery to coil, but need to be able to turn it off!

bungz

1,960 posts

120 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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rxe said:
Not seized, which is a start.

The video is not quite long enough to be sure, but it sounds like there is a catch in the starter - possibly a low compression cylinder. If you have a mate with an oscilloscope, get them to put a current clamp on the power cable to the starter. If all the cylinders are pulling the same current...this is good.

If good, toss a few tablespoons of petrol down the carb throats - it will fire if it has sparks.
Yeah that skip was deffo there.

Keep up with it Slow smile

Slow

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6,973 posts

137 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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jhonn said:
(You could try squirting some Easy-Start fluid in to the carbs while cranking to see if it would fire. Rig up a gravity feed to the carbs, etc. Then again, maybe that's getting too far ahead - no coolant in it, etc - tempting though!)
Did pretty much what you said today. Petrol can with a hose attached to where the pump would normally send it to. It then splits into 2 smaller hoses and goes to 2 bowls on either side of the engine. Dont really know a huge amount about carbs as ive never had a car with them but my Mums boyfriend (guy in video) says they are probably gunked up with crud.

It ran! Only on the easystart going directly into the intake though. It produced a spark, without needing to do anything other than put a battery in. Oil is due to be delivered sometime soon, filled up the coolant with water - only needed 2-3l however so its holding some I think.

Excuse the alarm - again... I just have been stealing the huge Range Rover battery out the boot of my E38 so it sets off the alarm each time. Really should buy a battery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wnzeCvAcX0

Not the best video but we got it to run for a while longer afterwards, even built up some oil pressure it seems as the light went out.

jhonn

1,567 posts

149 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Excellent! Well pleased for you; when you get something running that hasn't for a long time it seems like real progress, and the multitude of tasks still to do don't seem to be as daunting.

The carbs look like SU's which are quite a simple carb to work on and set-up - check that there's oil in the dashpots (unscrew the black knob on the carb top and take out the piston - there should be oil in the reservoir - put in a few CC's of light grade oil, 20W or similar.) It needs the oil to create a damping effect so that the carb piston doesn't rise too quickly under vacuum; it'll help it run a bit better.

Good work - looking forward to the next update (maybe moving under it's own power? driving) thumbup

jackpe

502 posts

164 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Good luck Slow! It does look like a monumental project but i love this kind of thing. Hope you get there..

bob-lad

2,212 posts

105 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Come on Slow, do tell what's happened over the past three months.

Lots of grinding, cutting and welding, I imagine.

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Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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I'm not sure Slow himself expects to finish some of them.

If he wants to spend his money on this stuff, why not? It's not a problem for me.

And I would like him to get this thing going again so I'm happy to follow the thread

Slow

Original Poster:

6,973 posts

137 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Seems a few of you fancy a update.

I havent actually done much bar getting it to run, not from its own tank however. Sourced a few bits for it, bought everything to service the engine as well.

Have been in the USA for a month and upon return have started uni so have been pretty busy, been sorting my E30 too. Hopefully I might get it into the garage over winter to start on it.

bob-lad

2,212 posts

105 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Ok, that's going to be a bit of a distraction wink

Keep up the good work. Absolutely love the project, this is the best sort of bonkers.

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TheJimi

24,992 posts

243 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Slow said:
Seems a few of you fancy a update.

I havent actually done much bar getting it to run, not from its own tank however.
To be fair that in and of itself is a bit of an achievement.

Have to say, I'd be tempted to bin the rest of your projects - maybe keep one - and focus on the 'roller.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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TheJimi said:
To be fair that in and of itself is a bit of an achievement.

Have to say, I'd be tempted to bin the rest of your projects - maybe keep one - and focus on the 'roller.
This has been mentioned before, but was considered negative........

There are some advocating the purchase of a big merc on top of the rest, but it appears wise council is not welcome here.

TheJimi

24,992 posts

243 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I'm not offering counsel, merely suggesting what I'd be tempted to do in the same situation.

Don't put me in your "wise counsel" boat, please.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I'd flog everything, buy something that works and concentrate on travelling, booze, good food and women.

Risotto

3,928 posts

212 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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em177 said:
What the fks wrong with people on this thread?

The blokes bought a tatty Shadow, to go along with a tatty E30, which are quite obviously hobby projects cars like we all should have. Whether or not they're making the most financial sense or not is up to him, as long as he's enjoying it.

I for one am quite looking forward to some updates, so can we cut the st please?
I didn't think anyone was being particularly antagonistic, just concerned that the OP might end up wasting their time and money on something that, if it weren't for the badge, would have been crushed without anyone mourning its passing.

It's an unremarkable car in poor condition and the spares command laughably high prices. If the OP's primary objective is to learn some new repair skills, there are plenty of equally tatty cars to practice on that wouldn't incur financial ruin. If the aim is to loaf about in an old Roller, there are plenty of roadworthy examples that will cost far less than getting this one into a safe condition. Similarly, if modding it is the objective, it would be cheaper to use a better condition car as a base.

This particular Shadow doesn't seem to be the answer to any of those scenarios - which is probably why it has been sold on several times with no improvement in its condition.

What you refer to as 'st' is actually perfectly constructive commentary from people who simply want the OP to be aware of what they're getting themselves into. The idea that thread contributions should be unanimously congratulatory is an odd but strangely prevalent one. I've never understood it myself. As most marque-specific forums amply demonstrate, threads populated by people with the same cars and opinions are often startlingly dull.

Anyway, if the OP is in need of some inspiration...





http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/07/thats-how-we-r...


Edited by Risotto on Wednesday 26th October 13:49

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Trabi601 said:
I'd flog everything, buy something that works and concentrate on travelling, booze, good food and women.
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