A shed of a 1972 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

A shed of a 1972 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

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Fastdruid

8,651 posts

153 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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It's as clear as mud....but I think it falls under the "Radically altered vehicles" class.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-...

So even if you keep *all* the parts from the BMW it's still a Q.

FWIW however, there are lots and lots of vehicles that *should* be a Q and aren't.


Slow

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6,973 posts

138 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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It might be classed as a kit car conversion though in which case based on the parts used it can get a age related plate. As it will have a brand new chassis built but old parts fitted.

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/kitbuilt-v...

"DVLA issues ‘Q’ registration numbers to vehicles whose age or identity is in doubt."

Neither age nor identity would be in doubt as I have v5 for both donor cars which state age and identity.

"Kit Conversions This is where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle, or old parts are added to a kit of a manufactured body, chassis or monocoque bodyshell. The general appearance of the vehicle will change and result in a different description being put on the Vehicle Registration Certificate (V5C).A vehicle will keep the registration number of the original vehicle if the original unaltered chassis/monocoque bodyshell has been used along with two other major components from the original vehicle.If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist kit manufacturer (or an altered chassis or bodyshell from an existing vehicle) is used with two original major components from the donor vehicle, a replacement registration number will be issued based on the age of the donor vehicle. The vehicle must have IVA or MSVA. The date of manufacture for the vehicle will be taken from the IVA or MSVA certificate."

"You can apply for an age-related number if you can prove you’ve used 2 original major parts along with:

a new monocoque bodyshell, chassis or frame from a specialist kit manufacturer"

Edit: I am not worried about getting either a 72 or 02 reg, just anything but a Q as I can then put a private plate onto it.

Fastdruid

8,651 posts

153 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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As I said, clear as mud.

The question is because you'll have made the chassis it's not a "Kit" but will it count as a kit?

Who knows because the DVLA are a law unto themselves and will just make things up depending on what day of the week it is.

Anyway, lets not let that get in the way, all the best with it, still going to be cool if it's Q plated or not.


Slow

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6,973 posts

138 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Its probably why people dont declare these things.

Easier to just inform insurance and just use the thing. With the age and no mot or tax who is ever going to look at it.

fizmo100

173 posts

199 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Wow, don't know how I missed this - bat-poop mental but utterly brilliant all at the same time. Following!

CousinDupree

779 posts

68 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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A great read! Much more interesting than those polishing / fitting spacers, threads!

Keep it up!

Slow

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138 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Uh... Ignoring the giant front splitter and wheels I like this in a weird sort of way. Been trying to figure out the wide arch problem and I cant stand the ebay ones (like the matte black drift car has) and rocketbunny type kits look out of place.

So bring in the group 5 cars, these are from the silhouette skyline hence the mental front splitter. The era is fairly correct with them being used from 76-82 which the Silver Shadow was produced during (technically the shadow 2). My all time favourite livery on a car is the JPS Lotus 77 black and gold from 76 which matches the era as well.

I dont know if the big boxy arch works in a mad sort of way. Other choice could be along the lines of Lancia Intergrale and Bmw e30 m3 wide arches but these are more modern.


This was a request on a facebook page hence the watermark and done up quickly without livery/wheels.

This type of look but on the Rolls is kind of what I have in my head.



It has to have some form of fairly wide arch as the track is wider before I even add some sort of dished wheel. This means the front/rear bumpers cannot be used either.

I am open to ideas if anyone has some.

Slow

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6,973 posts

138 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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A guy called Supreme Karak on a discord I am on made these for me in his time. Along the lines of this is what I am thinking for the arches.





CharlesdeGaulle

26,306 posts

181 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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That is simply insanely brilliantly insane. With a side portion of insanity. I love it.

classicaholic

1,729 posts

71 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Might cause a few heart attacks if you turned up at a RREC event!

CAPP0

19,604 posts

204 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Handy when it snows! tongue out

Slow

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6,973 posts

138 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Got it out awkwardly involving dragging/jcb/dumper truck/old transit chassis converted into a trailer/engine hoist.

Video on youtube if anyone wants to see how. Im not allowed to post links but cant imagine its hard to find.

Bmw is going in next to be stripped down smile

Slow

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138 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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All this talk of lockdown means I might get more time in the garage.

Just started to strip the front end down on the BMW. I have to say I love modern cars for taking them apart, its just so much easier without all the different sized imperial sockets. 2x torx and 3 sockets has taken apart the front end.






Biker's Nemesis

38,713 posts

209 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Im digging this thread.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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This along with a lot of time at home has me thinking of doing something with an older V8 Discovery and a Rolls, the 'Roller Disco' if you will...

Slow

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6,973 posts

138 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Lord-Haggis said:
This along with a lot of time at home has me thinking of doing something with an older V8 Discovery and a Rolls, the 'Roller Disco' if you will...
Wheelbase is miles off sadly, I had 2x 300tdi discoverys lay around and they were my first thought but not that easy to do.

Updates should be here later this week, been out the last few days getting everything sorted before we all get locked in.


Hyde

514 posts

149 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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I tip my hat to you Sir, can't wait to see you progress.

Slow

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138 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Logged in to a notification saying youtube links are allowed now?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSdBdjfnUmF4rTSrZ...

This is my channel where I upload things to do with my cars. Basically just this project, made it to show friends/family but people seem to enjoy it.

J4CKO

41,639 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Cool, will have a watch,

Been watching B is for Build doing something similar-ish, 67 mustang clothes onto a 2015 Mustang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l8FIgUwEP8



Slow

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6,973 posts

138 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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His 240z using m5 donor is what inspired me to do this.

Love his content, there’s also another guy (can’t remember his name) who’s sticking a new mustang inside of a old one.