2001 Sunseeker Predator 56?
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I'm starting to come around to the idea of buying something like a Sunseeker Predator 56 for £200 to £300K.
My idea is to keep it somewhere I can easily fly into from Exeter/ Bristol most of the year. Somewhere as South as possible in the med so its as warm as possible for the longest. Somewhere that has some fantastic coastline to explore and anchor off at thats not too far to sail to. I have three children 13, 11 and 8 so enough space for us all to sleep on. To charter it out a few weeks of the year to cover the running costs (too optimistic?). I know Marinas vary in cost but I think its worth paying for the right location and dry stored in the winter. I had in my mind around £20k a year for maintenance, insurance, marina and depreciation. How much on fuel?!
My idea is to keep it somewhere I can easily fly into from Exeter/ Bristol most of the year. Somewhere as South as possible in the med so its as warm as possible for the longest. Somewhere that has some fantastic coastline to explore and anchor off at thats not too far to sail to. I have three children 13, 11 and 8 so enough space for us all to sleep on. To charter it out a few weeks of the year to cover the running costs (too optimistic?). I know Marinas vary in cost but I think its worth paying for the right location and dry stored in the winter. I had in my mind around £20k a year for maintenance, insurance, marina and depreciation. How much on fuel?!
Rangeroverover said:
Have a word with Eddie Woods at Sunseeker Malta, I've known him since I was a kid (now 55) Malta great place to keep a boat, not too expensive plenty of marinas and destinations, also only 70 miles to Sicily.
sounds good but don't think there any direct flights to maltaPetrus1983 said:
The Malaga coastline is the most obvious choice - lots of moorings and plenty of flights from Bristol.
If I was to choose though the areas around Croatia/Montenegro are lovely - others on here will have better knowledge though.
Thank you .. I could also catch flights from Exeter which is 10 minutes from my house and because its such a small airport you can arrive an hour or less before it departs. Malaga is also quite far south which is good, its just whether the coast line is attractive enough and relatively easy to get to If I was to choose though the areas around Croatia/Montenegro are lovely - others on here will have better knowledge though.
I also live about 10 mins from Exeter and the Malta flights are slightly more expensive than the Bristol ones, worth the difference for the ease of use.
If you are going to go the Ltd Co/Charter route for tax and finance have a look at what the charter rates are in various locations.
If you want more detail PM me, I used to be involved in this sort of thing
If you are going to go the Ltd Co/Charter route for tax and finance have a look at what the charter rates are in various locations.
If you want more detail PM me, I used to be involved in this sort of thing
Rangeroverover said:
I also live about 10 mins from Exeter and the Malta flights are slightly more expensive than the Bristol ones, worth the difference for the ease of use.
If you are going to go the Ltd Co/Charter route for tax and finance have a look at what the charter rates are in various locations.
If you want more detail PM me, I used to be involved in this sort of thing
Thank you.If you are going to go the Ltd Co/Charter route for tax and finance have a look at what the charter rates are in various locations.
If you want more detail PM me, I used to be involved in this sort of thing
Can you charter these boats without crew? If I did 15 days a year this could be an expensive way of doing it. My idea was to buy one and charter it out myself for a few weeks a year to pay for a good part of the running costs.
I would be paying for the purchase with a dividend from my business probably.
That size boat I'd be looking at a Pershing 56. 50+ kn, surface drives, Italian style 
I'm new to boating and not sure of your experience, but one thing that's struck me early is that driving the thing is quite boring under most circumstances. Something that's spacious, luxurious yet goes like the clappers gives you that adrenaline hit when you fancy it.
I'm new to boating and not sure of your experience, but one thing that's struck me early is that driving the thing is quite boring under most circumstances. Something that's spacious, luxurious yet goes like the clappers gives you that adrenaline hit when you fancy it.
dvs_dave said:
That size boat I'd be looking at a Pershing 56. 50+ kn, surface drives, Italian style
I'm new to boating and not sure of your experience, but one thing that's struck me early is that driving the thing is quite boring under most circumstances. Something that's spacious, luxurious yet goes like the clappers gives you that adrenaline hit when you fancy it.
Looked it up and they look just right .. just twice my budget though at 500k+I'm new to boating and not sure of your experience, but one thing that's struck me early is that driving the thing is quite boring under most circumstances. Something that's spacious, luxurious yet goes like the clappers gives you that adrenaline hit when you fancy it.
Jonny TVR said:
I'm starting to come around to the idea of buying something like a Sunseeker Predator 56 for £200 to £300K.
My idea is to keep it somewhere I can easily fly into from Exeter/ Bristol most of the year. Somewhere as South as possible in the med so its as warm as possible for the longest. Somewhere that has some fantastic coastline to explore and anchor off at thats not too far to sail to. I have three children 13, 11 and 8 so enough space for us all to sleep on. To charter it out a few weeks of the year to cover the running costs (too optimistic?). I know Marinas vary in cost but I think its worth paying for the right location and dry stored in the winter. I had in my mind around £20k a year for maintenance, insurance, marina and depreciation. How much on fuel?!
Good luck with this.My idea is to keep it somewhere I can easily fly into from Exeter/ Bristol most of the year. Somewhere as South as possible in the med so its as warm as possible for the longest. Somewhere that has some fantastic coastline to explore and anchor off at thats not too far to sail to. I have three children 13, 11 and 8 so enough space for us all to sleep on. To charter it out a few weeks of the year to cover the running costs (too optimistic?). I know Marinas vary in cost but I think its worth paying for the right location and dry stored in the winter. I had in my mind around £20k a year for maintenance, insurance, marina and depreciation. How much on fuel?!
If you charter the boat I'd be keen to take it on for a week (PH rates of course;-) feel free to PM me if you take the plunge,
Thanks
Jonny TVR said:
dvs_dave said:
That size boat I'd be looking at a Pershing 56. 50+ kn, surface drives, Italian style
I'm new to boating and not sure of your experience, but one thing that's struck me early is that driving the thing is quite boring under most circumstances. Something that's spacious, luxurious yet goes like the clappers gives you that adrenaline hit when you fancy it.
Looked it up and they look just right .. just twice my budget though at 500k+I'm new to boating and not sure of your experience, but one thing that's struck me early is that driving the thing is quite boring under most circumstances. Something that's spacious, luxurious yet goes like the clappers gives you that adrenaline hit when you fancy it.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2007/Pershing-56-2...
dvs_dave said:
Bad time to be buying a used yacht which are often priced in USD. Until Brexit, this one would have been just about in budget. And imho a lot more special than the Sunseeker.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2007/Pershing-56-2...
Out of nothing but idle curiosity what would the fuel burn be on something like that?http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2007/Pershing-56-2...
dvs_dave said:
A quick google suggests 340l/hr at a cruising speed of 28kn which to me sounds pretty decent.
Though fully lit at 54kn, probably double that!
So about 12l/nm then. That would explain why when I was down at Swanwick marina earlier despite it being a glorious evening so few of the things were on the move.Though fully lit at 54kn, probably double that!
dvs_dave said:
Boats are frighteningly thirsty, even small ones. You really need to understand just how much they cost to run beyond just general mooring and maintenance. Fuel can be a massively underestimated out of pocket expense, especially on a bigger boat with a tasty power plant.
so round trip from Malta to Sicily would be £2K in fuel!We had a 1994 Princess 440 with twin Caterpillar 3208s (about 430bhp each). 1409 litres total fuel capacity.
it was a while ago, but as I remember 22kt cruising was about 100-130 litres per hour.
What's that in car terms, about 0.9-1.1 mpg ? That's assuming it's clean and in good fettle.
it was a while ago, but as I remember 22kt cruising was about 100-130 litres per hour.
What's that in car terms, about 0.9-1.1 mpg ? That's assuming it's clean and in good fettle.
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