1961 Jaguar E type convertible restoration

1961 Jaguar E type convertible restoration

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ECG1000

381 posts

143 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. Stunning cars!

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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where are you up to with it now?

Paracetamol

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4,226 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Hmm..good question..

I live overseas and so I am not completely up to date with progress and asking the restorer usually results in a new invoice smile

The expectation is that it should be finished by end November but its strangely quiet so perhaps by year end.

Its amazing how things have changed. When I first started looking for a restorer, the car could usually be fitted in within 3 to 6 months. Now the restorer has some 30 cars waiting for restoration and cannot find staff skilled enough to adhere to his high standard of work. I am glad I did this work when I did. By way of example, the paint cost 40% more than was originally quoted back in 2014 all because of supply and demand. When we sought out other companies for the work, they were even more expensive.

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

282 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Paracetamol said:
Hmm..good question..

I live overseas and so I am not completely up to date with progress and asking the restorer usually results in a new invoice smile

The expectation is that it should be finished by end November but its strangely quiet so perhaps by year end.

Its amazing how things have changed. When I first started looking for a restorer, the car could usually be fitted in within 3 to 6 months. Now the restorer has some 30 cars waiting for restoration and cannot find staff skilled enough to adhere to his high standard of work. I am glad I did this work when I did. By way of example, the paint cost 40% more than was originally quoted back in 2014 all because of supply and demand. When we sought out other companies for the work, they were even more expensive.
This is very interesting and I wonder how many of those 30 cars are for overseas customers. I don't think Brexit has impacted on this type of expenditure although I wonder what will happen as interest rates start rising. I bet you can't wait to see it!

lowdrag

12,899 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Thought you might like to see these two photos. This car has been restored to concours, and I mean concours, even down to the early bonnet hinges being reproduced.

IMG_1391 by Tony Brown, on Flickr
IMG_1393 by Tony Brown, on Flickr

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

282 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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why is the engine block orange colour? looks amazing

lowdrag

12,899 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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The early cars, up to about September 1961, were painted in what is colloquially known as "pumpkin". The gold colur was after that. My car is September 1961 and is the usual colour. please note that mine is not concours!


IMG_0283 by Tony Brown, on Flickr

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

282 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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I see thanks for the explanation. Mine looks very different again!





Edited by Jonny TVR on Thursday 2nd November 09:32

Wacky Racer

38,175 posts

248 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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All these cars are a credit to their owners.

I realise you have all spent a fortune getting them to this condition, but I'm sure you would get your money back and more besides if ever you decided to sell.

smile

psi310398

9,128 posts

204 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Wacky Racer said:
All these cars are a credit to their owners.

I realise you have all spent a fortune getting them to this condition, but I'm sure you would get your money back and more besides if ever you decided to sell.

smile
As someone currently haemorrhaging cash on an E Type restoration, I'd like to think so but that would depend on a continually rising market and a good day at the auction. It is generally the case that restorations seldom pay the owner the money they owe him.

My motivation, fortunately, is to have a car I'd keep foreversmile.


lowdrag

12,899 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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As regards spending a fortune, well, one has to understand that these cars, if you use them, are like the Forth Bridge. The spending never stops. My new soft top from three years back has shrunk so it needs another fitted for example. I've finally replaced the gear knob which cracked in extreme heat in the south of France in 1991; I remember to this day the cracking noise as I waited at lights at La Grande Motte in 42C heat. I am on the fourth ring binder of bills dating back 30 years but the value of the car was never a point that interested me and frankly I'd be happy if the car was still around £25,000 because people would still think me crazy for running an old car and I could thrash the thing to death as we used to on track days, tours, hill climbs and so on. Just the petrol and oil bills alone would amount to a sizeable sum, about 6,000 gallons of fuel and about 120 litres of oil I calculate. But then passion has no price.

Paracetamol

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4,226 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Jonny TVR said:
This is very interesting and I wonder how many of those 30 cars are for overseas customers. I don't think Brexit has impacted on this type of expenditure although I wonder what will happen as interest rates start rising. I bet you can't wait to see it!
I am a brit but based overseas..so it was natural to send the car home..however, I benefit from no VAT on the resto and also a great exchange rate...so I am doing well !

Most of the clientle is otherwise UK based. Anyone inclined to send a car overeas without a link to the place would probably send it to Eastern Europe

CharlesdeGaulle

26,302 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Paracetamol said:
Most of the clientle is otherwise UK based. Anyone inclined to send a car overeas without a link to the place would probably send it to Eastern Europe
That latter point is an option that needs to be approached with caution, as always. The Mercedes specialist that worked on my SLC has a car in his workshop that was supposedly the subject of a full restoration in Poland but is now having to be re-done.

lowdrag

12,899 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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I have seen many a car both built and/or restored in Poland plus many alloy shells sent overseas (including the UK) from there. I think the employees must have been smoking quite a bit! I mean, an E-type with the wishbones on the wrong sides? And that's just for starters.

RDMcG

19,184 posts

208 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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lowdrag said:
As regards spending a fortune, well, one has to understand that these cars, if you use them, are like the Forth Bridge. The spending never stops. My new soft top from three years back has shrunk so it needs another fitted for example. I've finally replaced the gear knob which cracked in extreme heat in the south of France in 1991; I remember to this day the cracking noise as I waited at lights at La Grande Motte in 42C heat. I am on the fourth ring binder of bills dating back 30 years but the value of the car was never a point that interested me and frankly I'd be happy if the car was still around £25,000 because people would still think me crazy for running an old car and I could thrash the thing to death as we used to on track days, tours, hill climbs and so on. Just the petrol and oil bills alone would amount to a sizeable sum, about 6,000 gallons of fuel and about 120 litres of oil I calculate. But then passion has no price.
As good a summary as I have seen. I truly admire your passion and expertise in bringing cars to an accurate version of how they were when produced. Have enjoyed your various updates over the years.

craig-e777v

1 posts

63 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Is there any images of the car upon completion?

Paracetamol

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4,226 posts

245 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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here she is












Edited by Paracetamol on Saturday 16th February 08:42

Gus265

265 posts

134 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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Wow - congratulations - that is stunning! Lovely colour and looks great on the painted wires! More piccies please!

lowdrag

12,899 posts

214 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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Truly stunning. Pride of place in the collection perhaps? Reminds me of the first rebuild I undertook of mine in 1987:-



Some original parts are hard to come by. Did you amnage to find the right Butler chromes for the number plate lights, or the Shelley jack, and so on?

Edited by lowdrag on Saturday 16th February 12:48

Paracetamol

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4,226 posts

245 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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I got the shelly jack but not the butlers. I did find someone who had done a recreation but stamped the butlers letters on the wrong way round 😂.

I was fortunate to have most of the rare parts already like

internal metal rim steering wheel
XK type gearknob
thin dashtop
flat air filter housing
original radiator (now replaced with a repro lookalike)
etc