A Good Chassis, and a Divisive Engine. The American M3.

A Good Chassis, and a Divisive Engine. The American M3.

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chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Ambleton said:
frankenstein12 said:
So buy a nice car and ruin it.. class

Why not buy one that needed tlc and turn that into a track car?
...oh great. Another boring person on their high horse telling other people what to do with their cars...

His money, his car, and his vision. With this attitude everyone would be rolling around in factory standard boring cars.... Some people have no vision...
By ruin it do you mean putting the rod through the block or putting a more reliable, less stressed and more tuneable engine?

Seems like a win win win to me! smile

frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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chuntington101 said:
Ambleton said:
frankenstein12 said:
So buy a nice car and ruin it.. class

Why not buy one that needed tlc and turn that into a track car?
...oh great. Another boring person on their high horse telling other people what to do with their cars...

His money, his car, and his vision. With this attitude everyone would be rolling around in factory standard boring cars.... Some people have no vision...
By ruin it do you mean putting the rod through the block or putting a more reliable, less stressed and more tuneable engine?

Seems like a win win win to me! smile
Actually what he did was he took a perfectly reliable and serviceable engine (unless there was a serious underlying issue at point of purchase) and drove it with such a lack of mechanical sympathy that it destroyed itself.Not something I would be proud of personally.

Mikeeb

406 posts

118 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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frankenstein12 said:
Actually what he did was he took a perfectly reliable and serviceable engine (unless there was a serious underlying issue at point of purchase) and drove it with such a lack of mechanical sympathy that it destroyed itself.Not something I would be proud of personally.
We are talking about an E46 M3 built in their 10's of thousands not a 250GTO SWB!!!

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

163 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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frankenstein12 said:
Actually what he did was he took a perfectly reliable and serviceable engine (unless there was a serious underlying issue at point of purchase) and drove it with such a lack of mechanical sympathy that it destroyed itself.Not something I would be proud of personally.
Chasing a 458 on track.

A decent way for an engine to blow IMO.

jaacck

190 posts

140 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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i rarely log in to make a comment... but when I do its for an awesome build. cannot wait to see this. Get some CSL wheels on there and be perfect ;D

exgtt

2,067 posts

212 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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frankenstein12 said:
Actually what he did was he took a perfectly reliable and serviceable engine (unless there was a serious underlying issue at point of purchase) and drove it with such a lack of mechanical sympathy that it destroyed itself.Not something I would be proud of personally.
The S54 is capable of throwing a rod when being driven as BMW intended. st happens.

AshBurrows

Original Poster:

2,552 posts

162 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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frankenstein12 said:
Actually what he did was he took a perfectly reliable and serviceable engine (unless there was a serious underlying issue at point of purchase) and drove it with such a lack of mechanical sympathy that it destroyed itself.Not something I would be proud of personally.
Wow what a weird attitude to have! What makes you think I'm proud?! It was one of the most expensive, heart breaking experiences of my life.

If you knew anything about the S54 at all, you'd know it was a fundamentally flawed engine. You can read an overview here:
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96280...
and here
http://www.langracing.com/finding-a-real-solution-...
BMW even tried to fix it themselves on their facelift roll out (they didn't).
In hindsight I wish I'd rebuilt my bottom end with ARP hardware yes, but your post is still way off the mark and also lol at the idea of not driving something like an M3 hard.

Anyway, to end on a positive note; I forgot to post my favourite pic:



Cheers!

themanwithnoname

1,634 posts

213 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Bravo, love it.

Would Sir care for a brace of turbos with that dirty great V8?




mwstewart

7,600 posts

188 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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exgtt said:
frankenstein12 said:
Actually what he did was he took a perfectly reliable and serviceable engine (unless there was a serious underlying issue at point of purchase) and drove it with such a lack of mechanical sympathy that it destroyed itself.Not something I would be proud of personally.
The S54 is capable of throwing a rod when being driven as BMW intended. st happens.
S54 rod bearings wear with heavy use and are essentially a service item around the 80k mark, or even less if driven very hard or having endured less frequent oil changes. Not everyone is aware.

For road cars it is unusual.

Croutons

9,875 posts

166 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Op said:
Anyway, to end on a positive note; I forgot to post my favourite pic:



Cheers!
Phwoar!

leglessAlex

5,447 posts

141 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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AshBurrows said:
That looks fantastic! Every time I see a well cared for E46 M3 or E39 M5 it reminds me that BMW really got it right with the design of these cars. Not too out there and I guess some could accuse them of being a little conservative, but I think they're really solid, handsome cars.

Yours has the added bonus of being in a decent colour too OP. Mods on it are excellent, just the right amount of lowering and great wheels.

Looking forward to how this goes.

Tinkshusband

280 posts

103 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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themanwithnoname said:
Bravo, love it.

Would Sir care for a brace of turbos with that dirty great V8?

Supercharger for a Yank v8, surely

Sf_Manta

2,191 posts

191 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Tinkshusband said:
themanwithnoname said:
Bravo, love it.

Would Sir care for a brace of turbos with that dirty great V8?

Supercharger for a Yank v8, surely
Or this..

With a flat plane crank would sound absolutely nuts.

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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AshBurrows said:
frankenstein12 said:
Actually what he did was he took a perfectly reliable and serviceable engine (unless there was a serious underlying issue at point of purchase) and drove it with such a lack of mechanical sympathy that it destroyed itself.Not something I would be proud of personally.
Wow what a weird attitude to have! What makes you think I'm proud?! It was one of the most expensive, heart breaking experiences of my life.

If you knew anything about the S54 at all, you'd know it was a fundamentally flawed engine. You can read an overview here:
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96280...
and here
http://www.langracing.com/finding-a-real-solution-...
BMW even tried to fix it themselves on their facelift roll out (they didn't).
In hindsight I wish I'd rebuilt my bottom end with ARP hardware yes, but your post is still way off the mark and also lol at the idea of not driving something like an M3 hard.

Anyway, to end on a positive note; I forgot to post my favourite pic:



Cheers!
I'm really sorry about this! I wasn't trying to intise him. Lol

All I was getting at was you blew your engine, for whatever reason, and found a more powerful, more reliable solution.

Tinkshusband

280 posts

103 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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chuntington101 said:
a more powerful, more reliable solution.
that in my opinion, will sound 10000000x better than the straight 6 it replaces.

AshBurrows

Original Poster:

2,552 posts

162 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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Sf_Manta said:
Or this..

With a flat plane crank would sound absolutely nuts.
I would love love love to do this. But you're talking £3k and minimal performance gains. As someone said earlier, supercharging is probably the way to go. But at the same time, turbos are real neat.
In reality if it can keep it NA and approach 500hp/ton there's absolutely no need for FI surely?! Haha!

irocfan

40,431 posts

190 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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got to be honest I'm not a huge BM fan.... but I'm really taken with this thread and it sounds like you've got an awesome project to be getting on with. thumbup

Smitters

4,003 posts

157 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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This looks all sorts of wicked. That said, I'm not sure how you see over the wheel if that pic of you on page one is recent...

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

166 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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In for the updates

SebringMan

1,773 posts

186 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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I had a suspicion I knew which car this was upon seeing this post today. I was wondering why it had been sat where it was for quite some time. A friend of mine used to occasionally see it on his road in another part of town smile.

It makes sense as to why it hasn't moved! It certainly looks pretty well track specced!