Minardi PS04B - A Season In BOSS GP (Photo Heavy!)

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olly22n said:

B&B booked for Assen!

Atmosphere at Assen was great this year, should be a great one for 2017.

[poppopbangbang]

Sorry guys! Been away for a bit and just come on to post the calendar to find someone has beaten us to it! Hope to see some of you at one of the rounds.

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matrignano said:

Great thread!
Question: why are the calipers so thick? Is it simply that the pads have to be super thick to last a whole race?

Carbon/Carbon brakes so generally our pads are way thicker than a conventional brake bad due to the requirement to handle sustained very high temperatures for long periods. Wear rates are pretty high but also we are using a fair bit of the pad as thermal insulation.

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stevesuk said:

Just found this video of what I assume is your Minardi in action at Imola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG2fnCfrWlE

Not only do I miss that V10 sound, I also miss Imola

Yep that's our one Always good to hear it making progress!

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LeonArtez said:

What a fascinating story! BossGP is a great series, which gets bigger every year. I will visit the event in Assen next year, Hope to see you race over there.

Is there much difference between the Cosworth V10 in the Minardi, and the V10 in Zwart's Jaguar and/or Gerstl's Toro Rosso?

Yes.... about a generations worth! Klaus and Ingo are both running TJs which are over 900bhp at 19Krpm, we are running CKs which are only 800bhp at 17.8KRPM hence those guys being a bit further up the road than we are! We still won a few this year though and to be honest if you've got to get beat it's nice to beaten by a couple of chaps with great teams and very well turned out cars

[Usget]

Sorry if this is a daft question but how is the series equalised? When you have cars with massive power differentials on the same track, are there umpteen classes, or is the case that the lower-powered cars can still compete on a level playing field as long as they have a fast driver and a well-drilled team?

[stevesuk]

poppopbangbang said:

Yes.... about a generations worth! Klaus and Ingo are both running TJs which are over 900bhp at 19Krpm, we are running CKs which are only 800bhp at 17.8KRPM hence those guys being a bit further up the road than we are! We still won a few this year though and to be honest if you've got to get beat it's nice to beaten by a couple of chaps with great teams and very well turned out cars

I think this is my favourite thread on PH

Is Ingo's Torro Rosso running the rev limited V10 as used in 2006, or has "full beans" mode been re-enabled (or a different version of the engine installed)? In 2006, Torro Rosso were the only team to run a V10 (everyone else had moved to the 2.4L V8). So the FIA introduced an equivalency formula, which I guess must have reduced the performance of the V10 a lot in order to match the V8s (which were rumoured to be running about 750bhp), hence wondering?

In general, do you guys detune the engines (or reduce the rev limit) in order to make them last longer/run more reliably? Or are they being run with pretty much the same performance parameters as they would have been back in the day?

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I'll leave PopPop to answer that one, but I've been present when qualifying revs were decided and chuckled...

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stevesuk said:

I think this is my favourite thread on PH

Is Ingo's Torro Rosso running the rev limited V10 as used in 2006, or has "full beans" mode been re-enabled (or a different version of the engine installed)? In 2006, Torro Rosso were the only team to run a V10 (everyone else had moved to the 2.4L V8). So the FIA introduced an equivalency formula, which I guess must have reduced the performance of the V10 a lot in order to match the V8s (which were rumoured to be running about 750bhp), hence wondering?

In general, do you guys detune the engines (or reduce the rev limit) in order to make them last longer/run more reliably? Or are they being run with pretty much the same performance parameters as they would have been back in the day?

Detune? This isn't current F1! Generally we run the same race revs and qualifying revs as they did in the day. We may move by a few hundred RPM depending on gearing etc. but if they did nearly 18K in the day then we do nearly 18K now.

Originally the STR1 had an air restrictor built into the roll hoop/intake and the revs were capped several K below what the TJ could do when it was in the RBR1, Topspeed and Ingo have thankfully de-clipped it's wings ....... Red Bull pun intended.

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poppopbangbang said:

Detune? This isn't current F1! Generally we run the same race revs and qualifying revs as they did in the day. We may move by a few hundred RPM depending on gearing etc. but if they did nearly 18K in the day then we do nearly 18K now.

Originally the STR1 had an air restrictor built into the roll hoop/intake and the revs were capped several K below what the TJ could do when it was in the RBR1, Topspeed and Ingo have thankfully de-clipped it's wings ....... Red Bull pun intended.

I'm even more excited about going to see a round now!

[stevesuk]

poppopbangbang said:

Detune? This isn't current F1! Generally we run the same race revs and qualifying revs as they did in the day. We may move by a few hundred RPM depending on gearing etc. but if they did nearly 18K in the day then we do nearly 18K now.

Originally the STR1 had an air restrictor built into the roll hoop/intake and the revs were capped several K below what the TJ could do when it was in the RBR1, Topspeed and Ingo have thankfully de-clipped it's wings ....... Red Bull pun intended.

Thanks for the insight. Good to hear the power units are still being given the full beans

[stevesuk]

Hello Poppopbangbang

Is the Minardi going to be running in BOSS GP this year?

Entry list suggests there could be two Toro Rosso STR1 on the grid this year, and a Jordan 198?

http://bossgp.com/driver/

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stevesuk said:

Hello Poppopbangbang

Is the Minardi going to be running in BOSS GP this year?

Entry list suggests there could be two Toro Rosso STR1 on the grid this year, and a [b]Jordan 198[b]?

http://bossgp.com/driver/

Alright!! Bitten and Hisses!! Probably my all time favourite F1 car.

[stevetav]

Fantastic Images there!

I have fond memories of being at Castle Combe circa 1997ish? The EURO BOSS series raced there once.

I recall the ex Mica Salo 1995 Tyrrell going around the old circuit sub 55 seconds. Constant noise! brilliant.

Link - http://www.motorsport-fanatic.co.uk/combe-boss.htm...

Edited by stevetav on Friday 10th March 05:32

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stevesuk said:

Hello Poppopbangbang

Is the Minardi going to be running in BOSS GP this year?

Entry list suggests there could be two Toro Rosso STR1 on the grid this year, and a Jordan 198?

http://bossgp.com/driver/

I can't speak on behalf of Poppopbangbang, but I know that a very yellow car running in some famous 24 hours races this year may stand in the way of running in BOSS...

[stevesuk]

stevetav said:

I have fond memories of being at Castle Combe circa 1997ish? The EURO BOSS series raced there once.

I recall the ex Mica Salo 1995 Tyrrell going around the old circuit sub 55 seconds. Constant noise! brilliant.

What's interesting, is that in 1997 that Tyrrell would only have been a couple of years old. Can you imagine that happening today? Someone arriving at a small circuit in Wiltshire with a 2015 Force india and racing it? Although I see they dumped the Yahama engine - thank goodness for Judd

[_dobbo_]

Running a team of this nature must be expensive - would you be looking at some of the stuff in this auction thinking it might be useful?

http://manorf1auction.com/m/view-auctions/catalog/...

[stevesuk]

_dobbo_ said:

Running a team of this nature must be expensive - would you be looking at some of the stuff in this auction thinking it might be useful?

http://manorf1auction.com/m/view-auctions/catalog/...

There's a guy who bought a load of stuff at the Caterham F1 auction, and is turning it in to a driveable car:

http://www.caterhamf1.co.uk/

(although not with an F1 engine)

It does look the part though

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stevesuk said:

There's a guy who bought a load of stuff at the Caterham F1 auction, and is turning it in to a driveable car:

http://www.caterhamf1.co.uk/

(although not with an F1 engine)

It does look the part though

Been following this for some time now, really enjoy seeing the pics of the chassis being prepped, and the great CAD images he has too.

That website is a shambles though XD I prefer to just catch up on his Twitter.

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weeboot said:

I can't speak on behalf of Poppopbangbang, but I know that a very yellow car running in some famous 24 hours races this year may stand in the way of running in BOSS...

So please do not speak on behalf of Poppopbangbang, this posting reads "look at me, I know something you don't!" and ruins a great thread.