Minardi PS04B - A Season In BOSS GP (Photo Heavy!)

Minardi PS04B - A Season In BOSS GP (Photo Heavy!)

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poppopbangbang

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Wednesday 14th December 2016
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LeonArtez said:
What a fascinating story! BossGP is a great series, which gets bigger every year. I will visit the event in Assen next year, Hope to see you race over there.

Is there much difference between the Cosworth V10 in the Minardi, and the V10 in Zwart's Jaguar and/or Gerstl's Toro Rosso?
Yes.... about a generations worth! Klaus and Ingo are both running TJs which are over 900bhp at 19Krpm, we are running CKs which are only 800bhp at 17.8KRPM hence those guys being a bit further up the road than we are! We still won a few this year though and to be honest if you've got to get beat it's nice to beaten by a couple of chaps with great teams and very well turned out cars smile

poppopbangbang

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stevesuk said:
I think this is my favourite thread on PH smile

Is Ingo's Torro Rosso running the rev limited V10 as used in 2006, or has "full beans" mode been re-enabled (or a different version of the engine installed)? In 2006, Torro Rosso were the only team to run a V10 (everyone else had moved to the 2.4L V8). So the FIA introduced an equivalency formula, which I guess must have reduced the performance of the V10 a lot in order to match the V8s (which were rumoured to be running about 750bhp), hence wondering?

In general, do you guys detune the engines (or reduce the rev limit) in order to make them last longer/run more reliably? Or are they being run with pretty much the same performance parameters as they would have been back in the day?
Detune? This isn't current F1! biggrin Generally we run the same race revs and qualifying revs as they did in the day. We may move by a few hundred RPM depending on gearing etc. but if they did nearly 18K in the day then we do nearly 18K now.

Originally the STR1 had an air restrictor built into the roll hoop/intake and the revs were capped several K below what the TJ could do when it was in the RBR1, Topspeed and Ingo have thankfully de-clipped it's wings ....... Red Bull pun intended.

poppopbangbang

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TobyTR said:
Part of the group I'm CTO of so yes in short. smile

poppopbangbang

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TobyTR said:
Best thread I've ever read on PH. Thank you so much.

Hypothetically speaking, if one was to win a Euromillions jackpot ( hehe ) and wanted to buy and run a 2004 V10 F1 car, how much are we talking for:
1. Purchase of fully working race-ready 2004 V10 F1 car, including spares package (I'm thinking Jaguar R5, Minardi PS04, Jordan EJ14, Toyota TF-104 etc)
2. How much per season of Boss GP would it cost to run - ie 20 man team, logistics, engineering, new parts replacing etc all up?
3. any other costs

Please keep these threads coming, Pop. I find reading these far more interesting than watching this year's F1 races.
1. Depends on the car and history. It can be as little as 350K for something tight on parts and needing some attention. For something on the button with an excellent spares package, drawings, data, loads of wheels etc. etc. £1M+ A TF-104 is available for 1.7M Euro.
2. You don't need a 20 man team, 10 is enough for BOSS but all in including travel and transport circa half a million. They sky is the limit if you want to go full F1 and bolt on hospitality and helicopters though.
3. Testing, Wind Tunnel, Rig Time, it's really a case of set a budget and the best possible will be achieved for that. Much like F1 really where the team runs to the available budget.