L322 Range Rover - Cheapest ever?
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Thought I had a brake issue today. As you'll see from the receipts, she's had a fair bit on the rear (pads, discs, hand brake shoes and one calliper).
Luckily, just the disc shield rubbing. Screwdriver prod required! Unsurprisingly, had this on the E39.
To answer above:
There is another subframe, a rear one. This looks better, and I've never heard of issues with them. Said that about the front one though! One of my previous cars with an E46 M3, I clearly like subframe issues...although quite different issues in reality.
There is other rust on the car, that will need looking at in time. My mechanic is thinking that for next MoT I might need some remedial work, but she is through for now.
My full list of work to be done is:
I really do like the colour. About as far away from the bling crowd as you can get.
Luckily, just the disc shield rubbing. Screwdriver prod required! Unsurprisingly, had this on the E39.
To answer above:
There is another subframe, a rear one. This looks better, and I've never heard of issues with them. Said that about the front one though! One of my previous cars with an E46 M3, I clearly like subframe issues...although quite different issues in reality.
There is other rust on the car, that will need looking at in time. My mechanic is thinking that for next MoT I might need some remedial work, but she is through for now.
My full list of work to be done is:
- Fit turbo vent filter (ordered)
- Fix LCDs (have parts, just need to fit)
- Replace OSF air bag (it leaks when in high mode)
- Fix steering column for reach
- Driver's heated seat stopped working (passenger's is fine)
- Replace rusty tailgate (top and bottom)
- Rust repair to rear quarters and arches
- Headlight washers/wipers need some work
- Replace NSR light, it is degraded inside and looks horrible
- Amplifier needs to be refurbished (about 5 of the 11 speakers work)
- Replace centre console plastic (has glue? in there from previous owner)
- Possibly change the viscous fan clutch, gets stuck on now and again
- At some point, diff oil change, gearbox and filter change etc.
I really do like the colour. About as far away from the bling crowd as you can get.
What's your theoretical monthly cost at the moment?
I use a similar approach to my car and at first had a few big bills for brakes/bodywork/suspension which took my monthly costs to £400-500 per month for the first couple of years. Made me question if I'd done the right thing.
Now everything has settled down and I keep on top of all the little jobs before they become big jobs, the last 3 years the monthly cost has come down to a much more reasonable £200 per month.
I hope yours starts to make financial sense the longer you have it as I have always liked the early non molested versions of these. Before they had too much tinsel added to them!
I use a similar approach to my car and at first had a few big bills for brakes/bodywork/suspension which took my monthly costs to £400-500 per month for the first couple of years. Made me question if I'd done the right thing.
Now everything has settled down and I keep on top of all the little jobs before they become big jobs, the last 3 years the monthly cost has come down to a much more reasonable £200 per month.
I hope yours starts to make financial sense the longer you have it as I have always liked the early non molested versions of these. Before they had too much tinsel added to them!
Uggers said:
What's your theoretical monthly cost at the moment?
I use a similar approach to my car and at first had a few big bills for brakes/bodywork/suspension which took my monthly costs to £400-500 per month for the first couple of years. Made me question if I'd done the right thing.
Now everything has settled down and I keep on top of all the little jobs before they become big jobs, the last 3 years the monthly cost has come down to a much more reasonable £200 per month.
I hope yours starts to make financial sense the longer you have it as I have always liked the early non molested versions of these. Before they had too much tinsel added to them!
Good post!I use a similar approach to my car and at first had a few big bills for brakes/bodywork/suspension which took my monthly costs to £400-500 per month for the first couple of years. Made me question if I'd done the right thing.
Now everything has settled down and I keep on top of all the little jobs before they become big jobs, the last 3 years the monthly cost has come down to a much more reasonable £200 per month.
I hope yours starts to make financial sense the longer you have it as I have always liked the early non molested versions of these. Before they had too much tinsel added to them!
I work to a theoretical £300 a month. At the moment it is a horrendous £800 a month average, but it won't take *too* long to bring that down. The problem I've had in the past is keeping cars long enough to see this through! I don't see me having that problem with this car, though.
I'm happy if she costs £1 less than £300 a month, but I would like it to fit in to that figure.
I tried boring before, and I didn't like it. Zero deposit and £250 a month got me a new shape Qashqai on 9k miles on PCP. Ideally it would match that! Just higher VED, insurance and fuel to contend with.
A few threads have started to appreciate the early, non-glitter cars; and I do too. QQ below...
Handed the car back after 6 months. Luckily they are in massive demand, so wasn't a terrible financial decision.
Hello again.
The car is booked in, early next week for some work. Replace that leaking airbag, plus some new work! Great... OSF ball joint has failed. Wasn't related to the previous work, but it has all of sudden become very noisy and loose. Also, the CV boot has come adrift on that side. Hoping for some luck soon...
Anyway, I changed the turbo vent filter (£2 odd).
Really need to sort these displays. I have the parts, but that many other problems, they keep being left!
Front end is in fantastic condition. Cables were for the laptop to run the BMW software for the suspension reset.
I had a look what a basic L405 would cost new to achieve the modern equivalent of this car. Just under £80k. Can't say many would spec one with small wheels and in green. I would though!
wait wait wait..."At the moment it is a horrendous £800 a month average"
Eight. Hundred. Pounds. Per month? I'm all for keeping a cheerful old bus on the road (and yours is especially appealing) but good god man that some interesting man maths at play. You could get some serious trouble free exotica for that figure.
Eight. Hundred. Pounds. Per month? I'm all for keeping a cheerful old bus on the road (and yours is especially appealing) but good god man that some interesting man maths at play. You could get some serious trouble free exotica for that figure.
It should be fairly obvious that exotica will continue to cost £800/month forever more, so that isn't a fair comparison.
This is only £800/month because of the particular list of jobs which have been done so far.
The true monthly cost of running this L322 after the initial list of jobs is sorted will obviously settle at around £1,200/month.
This is only £800/month because of the particular list of jobs which have been done so far.
The true monthly cost of running this L322 after the initial list of jobs is sorted will obviously settle at around £1,200/month.
It will make financial sense the longer he keeps it. If he manages to keep his costs to a minimum over the next 6 months his average per month will be down to around £400 per month. I know this is Autocar but just look what dross roughly £350-400 per month gets you https://www.whatcar.com/news/best-car-deals-for-le... Rather depressing stuff.
The OP has had some rather expensive problems sorted which shouldn't come back in his ownership. There is always the spectre of something else big, but that is the chance you take sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
All going well I reckon after 3 years of ownership he'll be within his theoretical budget and he gets to rock around in something very nice indeed in that time.
The OP has had some rather expensive problems sorted which shouldn't come back in his ownership. There is always the spectre of something else big, but that is the chance you take sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
All going well I reckon after 3 years of ownership he'll be within his theoretical budget and he gets to rock around in something very nice indeed in that time.
I've lurked on this site forum and wider site for a long time but this post compelled me to post. I thought I'd share my L322 ownership experiences..........................
I fulfilled a long held dream by buying my Range Rover back in 2014...it was an itch that needed scratching. Having owned a broad range of large 4x4s over the preceding 15 years or so, I felt I was sufficiently mentally prepared to take the plunge. My criteria was for a low owner, well maintained, great condition sub £10k L322 HSE. I viewed half a dozen or so, then promptly bought the very first one I had viewed...and in fact the earliest being a 2002. Its condition was better than all the 2005 models I had seen and for me condition outweighed age. She's finished in Adriatic Blue with contrasting dark blue leather interior. There was the added benefit of 20" Stormers fitted with brand new 295 40 20 Nexen Roadian tyres which really set the car off. I arranged for the rear windows back to receive a medium tint prior to collection. And a condition of sale was to have the dashboard pixilation issues fixed. I drove away a very happy chappy indeed. To this day, I smile when I drive this car. Amazingly practical for large families and a comfortable, easy to drive.
Now I paid just under £7k, which wasn't really a bargain but I was comfortable in knowing there would be no immediate expense - save for diesel, and lots of it! - with a good warranty, fresh service & brand new MOT.
I look after my cars very well but always with an eye on the £s. I change all filters every 6 months. Often forgotten is the crankcase breather filter which is cheap as chips but an important filter for general engine wellbeing. Total 6 monthly servicing cost is approx. £85. In the first year of ownership I had the transmission filter changed and plan on doing that again this year. That cost £175 including the correct fluid but is a darn sight cheaper than a auto transmission rebuild. Aside from routine servicing costs, I've had the following work done:
Recon turbo - £350 inc fitting
Front & rear brake bads - £120 inc fitting
Front wheel bearings - £200 inc fitting
Fuel Pump - £175 inc fitting
O/S/F air suspension - £250 inc
Front suspension refurb - £185 inc fitting
In addition to the transmission filter/fluid, this year I plan also to change the diff oils and brake fluid, just to be on the sure side. The air con will be re-gassed too.
In the looks department, I've added rock crawler side steps, later rear lights, colour coded door handles and wing mirror covers. It's just as I want it but could benefit from a bloody good machine polish. I love the Adriatic Blue paintwork, I feel it really suits the car. It just needs to be shinier.
On the money side of things, boy did I grow a pair to make the purchase. The ownership horror stories out there are numerous.....and the costs of some trim items extortionate. But I'm glad I took the leap of faith. Boy am I glad. She's owned outright, so my monthly outlay on keeping this beautiful example on the road is less than a 3 year low deposit PCP on a Ford Focus. My fuel costs are around £250 a month, she averages 22-24 mpg [30 on a motorway run @ 70 - 80]. Insurance is £275 fully comp. I tend to salt £50 a month away for repairs...just in case.
Outstanding jobs include:
Sorting the remote wing mirrors that wave and waggle like an octopus on speed when attempting remote closing; and
Renewing headlining - quite saggy and currently pinned in key locations
Nothing I can't continue to live with and any concerns eclipsed by the pleasure of turning the key. Great purchase OP!! Hope you are as pleased and satisfied as I have and continue to be.
I fulfilled a long held dream by buying my Range Rover back in 2014...it was an itch that needed scratching. Having owned a broad range of large 4x4s over the preceding 15 years or so, I felt I was sufficiently mentally prepared to take the plunge. My criteria was for a low owner, well maintained, great condition sub £10k L322 HSE. I viewed half a dozen or so, then promptly bought the very first one I had viewed...and in fact the earliest being a 2002. Its condition was better than all the 2005 models I had seen and for me condition outweighed age. She's finished in Adriatic Blue with contrasting dark blue leather interior. There was the added benefit of 20" Stormers fitted with brand new 295 40 20 Nexen Roadian tyres which really set the car off. I arranged for the rear windows back to receive a medium tint prior to collection. And a condition of sale was to have the dashboard pixilation issues fixed. I drove away a very happy chappy indeed. To this day, I smile when I drive this car. Amazingly practical for large families and a comfortable, easy to drive.
Now I paid just under £7k, which wasn't really a bargain but I was comfortable in knowing there would be no immediate expense - save for diesel, and lots of it! - with a good warranty, fresh service & brand new MOT.
I look after my cars very well but always with an eye on the £s. I change all filters every 6 months. Often forgotten is the crankcase breather filter which is cheap as chips but an important filter for general engine wellbeing. Total 6 monthly servicing cost is approx. £85. In the first year of ownership I had the transmission filter changed and plan on doing that again this year. That cost £175 including the correct fluid but is a darn sight cheaper than a auto transmission rebuild. Aside from routine servicing costs, I've had the following work done:
Recon turbo - £350 inc fitting
Front & rear brake bads - £120 inc fitting
Front wheel bearings - £200 inc fitting
Fuel Pump - £175 inc fitting
O/S/F air suspension - £250 inc
Front suspension refurb - £185 inc fitting
In addition to the transmission filter/fluid, this year I plan also to change the diff oils and brake fluid, just to be on the sure side. The air con will be re-gassed too.
In the looks department, I've added rock crawler side steps, later rear lights, colour coded door handles and wing mirror covers. It's just as I want it but could benefit from a bloody good machine polish. I love the Adriatic Blue paintwork, I feel it really suits the car. It just needs to be shinier.
On the money side of things, boy did I grow a pair to make the purchase. The ownership horror stories out there are numerous.....and the costs of some trim items extortionate. But I'm glad I took the leap of faith. Boy am I glad. She's owned outright, so my monthly outlay on keeping this beautiful example on the road is less than a 3 year low deposit PCP on a Ford Focus. My fuel costs are around £250 a month, she averages 22-24 mpg [30 on a motorway run @ 70 - 80]. Insurance is £275 fully comp. I tend to salt £50 a month away for repairs...just in case.
Outstanding jobs include:
Sorting the remote wing mirrors that wave and waggle like an octopus on speed when attempting remote closing; and
Renewing headlining - quite saggy and currently pinned in key locations
Nothing I can't continue to live with and any concerns eclipsed by the pleasure of turning the key. Great purchase OP!! Hope you are as pleased and satisfied as I have and continue to be.
MARLBOROLITES said:
I've lurked on this site forum and wider site for a long time but this post compelled me to post. I thought I'd share my L322 ownership experiences..........................
I fulfilled a long held dream by buying my Range Rover back in 2014...it was an itch that needed scratching. Having owned a broad range of large 4x4s over the preceding 15 years or so, I felt I was sufficiently mentally prepared to take the plunge. My criteria was for a low owner, well maintained, great condition sub £10k L322 HSE. I viewed half a dozen or so, then promptly bought the very first one I had viewed...and in fact the earliest being a 2002. Its condition was better than all the 2005 models I had seen and for me condition outweighed age. She's finished in Adriatic Blue with contrasting dark blue leather interior. There was the added benefit of 20" Stormers fitted with brand new 295 40 20 Nexen Roadian tyres which really set the car off. I arranged for the rear windows back to receive a medium tint prior to collection. And a condition of sale was to have the dashboard pixilation issues fixed. I drove away a very happy chappy indeed. To this day, I smile when I drive this car. Amazingly practical for large families and a comfortable, easy to drive.
Now I paid just under £7k, which wasn't really a bargain but I was comfortable in knowing there would be no immediate expense - save for diesel, and lots of it! - with a good warranty, fresh service & brand new MOT.
I look after my cars very well but always with an eye on the £s. I change all filters every 6 months. Often forgotten is the crankcase breather filter which is cheap as chips but an important filter for general engine wellbeing. Total 6 monthly servicing cost is approx. £85. In the first year of ownership I had the transmission filter changed and plan on doing that again this year. That cost £175 including the correct fluid but is a darn sight cheaper than a auto transmission rebuild. Aside from routine servicing costs, I've had the following work done:
Recon turbo - £350 inc fitting
Front & rear brake bads - £120 inc fitting
Front wheel bearings - £200 inc fitting
Fuel Pump - £175 inc fitting
O/S/F air suspension - £250 inc
Front suspension refurb - £185 inc fitting
In addition to the transmission filter/fluid, this year I plan also to change the diff oils and brake fluid, just to be on the sure side. The air con will be re-gassed too.
In the looks department, I've added rock crawler side steps, later rear lights, colour coded door handles and wing mirror covers. It's just as I want it but could benefit from a bloody good machine polish. I love the Adriatic Blue paintwork, I feel it really suits the car. It just needs to be shinier.
On the money side of things, boy did I grow a pair to make the purchase. The ownership horror stories out there are numerous.....and the costs of some trim items extortionate. But I'm glad I took the leap of faith. Boy am I glad. She's owned outright, so my monthly outlay on keeping this beautiful example on the road is less than a 3 year low deposit PCP on a Ford Focus. My fuel costs are around £250 a month, she averages 22-24 mpg [30 on a motorway run @ 70 - 80]. Insurance is £275 fully comp. I tend to salt £50 a month away for repairs...just in case.
Outstanding jobs include:
Sorting the remote wing mirrors that wave and waggle like an octopus on speed when attempting remote closing; and
Renewing headlining - quite saggy and currently pinned in key locations
Nothing I can't continue to live with and any concerns eclipsed by the pleasure of turning the key. Great purchase OP!! Hope you are as pleased and satisfied as I have and continue to be.
Great first post and contribution! Hopefully OP will now have a nicely sorted car like yoursI fulfilled a long held dream by buying my Range Rover back in 2014...it was an itch that needed scratching. Having owned a broad range of large 4x4s over the preceding 15 years or so, I felt I was sufficiently mentally prepared to take the plunge. My criteria was for a low owner, well maintained, great condition sub £10k L322 HSE. I viewed half a dozen or so, then promptly bought the very first one I had viewed...and in fact the earliest being a 2002. Its condition was better than all the 2005 models I had seen and for me condition outweighed age. She's finished in Adriatic Blue with contrasting dark blue leather interior. There was the added benefit of 20" Stormers fitted with brand new 295 40 20 Nexen Roadian tyres which really set the car off. I arranged for the rear windows back to receive a medium tint prior to collection. And a condition of sale was to have the dashboard pixilation issues fixed. I drove away a very happy chappy indeed. To this day, I smile when I drive this car. Amazingly practical for large families and a comfortable, easy to drive.
Now I paid just under £7k, which wasn't really a bargain but I was comfortable in knowing there would be no immediate expense - save for diesel, and lots of it! - with a good warranty, fresh service & brand new MOT.
I look after my cars very well but always with an eye on the £s. I change all filters every 6 months. Often forgotten is the crankcase breather filter which is cheap as chips but an important filter for general engine wellbeing. Total 6 monthly servicing cost is approx. £85. In the first year of ownership I had the transmission filter changed and plan on doing that again this year. That cost £175 including the correct fluid but is a darn sight cheaper than a auto transmission rebuild. Aside from routine servicing costs, I've had the following work done:
Recon turbo - £350 inc fitting
Front & rear brake bads - £120 inc fitting
Front wheel bearings - £200 inc fitting
Fuel Pump - £175 inc fitting
O/S/F air suspension - £250 inc
Front suspension refurb - £185 inc fitting
In addition to the transmission filter/fluid, this year I plan also to change the diff oils and brake fluid, just to be on the sure side. The air con will be re-gassed too.
In the looks department, I've added rock crawler side steps, later rear lights, colour coded door handles and wing mirror covers. It's just as I want it but could benefit from a bloody good machine polish. I love the Adriatic Blue paintwork, I feel it really suits the car. It just needs to be shinier.
On the money side of things, boy did I grow a pair to make the purchase. The ownership horror stories out there are numerous.....and the costs of some trim items extortionate. But I'm glad I took the leap of faith. Boy am I glad. She's owned outright, so my monthly outlay on keeping this beautiful example on the road is less than a 3 year low deposit PCP on a Ford Focus. My fuel costs are around £250 a month, she averages 22-24 mpg [30 on a motorway run @ 70 - 80]. Insurance is £275 fully comp. I tend to salt £50 a month away for repairs...just in case.
Outstanding jobs include:
Sorting the remote wing mirrors that wave and waggle like an octopus on speed when attempting remote closing; and
Renewing headlining - quite saggy and currently pinned in key locations
Nothing I can't continue to live with and any concerns eclipsed by the pleasure of turning the key. Great purchase OP!! Hope you are as pleased and satisfied as I have and continue to be.
Uggers said:
It will make financial sense the longer he keeps it. If he manages to keep his costs to a minimum over the next 6 months his average per month will be down to around £400 per month. I know this is Autocar but just look what dross roughly £350-400 per month gets you https://www.whatcar.com/news/best-car-deals-for-le... Rather depressing stuff.
The OP has had some rather expensive problems sorted which shouldn't come back in his ownership. There is always the spectre of something else big, but that is the chance you take sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
All going well I reckon after 3 years of ownership he'll be within his theoretical budget and he gets to rock around in something very nice indeed in that time.
You're absolutely wrong there. The OP has had some rather expensive problems sorted which shouldn't come back in his ownership. There is always the spectre of something else big, but that is the chance you take sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
All going well I reckon after 3 years of ownership he'll be within his theoretical budget and he gets to rock around in something very nice indeed in that time.
It MAY make financial sense the longer he keeps it. However, a big, complicated car with lots of "common" problems doesn't guarantee anything...
She's back from the garage!
Now feeling very nice.
I totally agree with what you are all saying. Yes, £800 per month is silly, but I've only had it since late last year. This *should* ease off over time. I'm completely agreeing also with the fact that more bills will show up; the list of niggles isn't finished yet, without unexpected work!
I have had a habit of sinking £2k into previous cars and then moving them on far too soon. I won't do that, this time, in an attempt to get the car to a good standard and enjoy the previous work/costs!
Very true on trim pieces costing a fortune, each thing I look at tends to be 2-4 times the price I had in my head before starting the search!
Unfortunately, I've just been made redundant... so hopefully she isn't at risk!!
Now feeling very nice.
I totally agree with what you are all saying. Yes, £800 per month is silly, but I've only had it since late last year. This *should* ease off over time. I'm completely agreeing also with the fact that more bills will show up; the list of niggles isn't finished yet, without unexpected work!
I have had a habit of sinking £2k into previous cars and then moving them on far too soon. I won't do that, this time, in an attempt to get the car to a good standard and enjoy the previous work/costs!
Very true on trim pieces costing a fortune, each thing I look at tends to be 2-4 times the price I had in my head before starting the search!
Unfortunately, I've just been made redundant... so hopefully she isn't at risk!!
C70R said:
You're absolutely wrong there.
It MAY make financial sense the longer he keeps it. However, a big, complicated car with lots of "common" problems doesn't guarantee anything...
Hence me saying there is always the chance another expensive thing may come up which you take a chance on. Win some lose some, all part of operating in this part of the market.It MAY make financial sense the longer he keeps it. However, a big, complicated car with lots of "common" problems doesn't guarantee anything...
But if all goes well he will make his theoretical monthly budget.
Thanks for the welcome Lynch91, appreciated!
It's true you never know what might lay in wait when you dabble in this market segment. For me, preventative and proactive maintenance reigns supreme. I also benefit from a top mate mechanic who loves RRs, and takes proper pride in his workmanship. He's old school too...doesn't rely on a lap top to tell him what a fault might be.
I forgot to mention a few things in the earlier post.
I always thought the car went well and discovered why when I found a Dutch made tuning box in the ECU chamber. Distributed by a company specialising in tuning BMWs, especially diesels, displaying the true origins of my powertrain. I disconnected it out of curiosity and fuel consumption decreased and the unit was far less responsive. It was quickly plugged back in!
Another mod was to remove the EGR and fit a blanking unit. What prompted me was the trail of smoke I was leaving behind me on acceleration. I felt particular guilt when cyclists would disappear. £45 later, a stainless steel unit occupied the place of the EGR valve. No smoke! Faster pick up! Smoother acceleration! Win, win, win..... This mod is highly recommended and on my old girl there's no need to re programme the ECU. Do it, you know you want to.
I had the rear wiper fail like the OP. It kept dumping water on my parcel shelf. I tried loads of fixes involving glues, silicones etc. All failed. Watching the pennies as per usual I set about a fix. I bought a couple of metres of silicone hosing and some push connectors. I drilled the core of the wiper spline to increase its diameter to 4mm to take the hose I bought. I then spliced my new hose to the original and ran the pipe straight through the wiper spline to the underside of the roof spoiler. Works a treat and cost £6 in total. 2 years on, still functioning great.
The tailgate seal can fail allowing water to leak in to the spare wheel well. In there you'll find the air suspension compressor. Water and air compressors generally are not bed fellows so action was needed when I began to notice gathering water. I changed my underwear after learning the cost of a new seal and then set about finding a cheaper solution. This was found in the form of some black silicone sealant which I applied to the seam on which the rubber seal sits. Perfect new seal created ....no more water ingress! Result!
As we all know, 'stealers' charge a fortune for parts, nowhere is that more obvious than with the electronic tailgate latches. I'm aware owners have spent many many hundreds of £s on sorting sticky latches. I removed mine and oiled them thoroughly. You only need to remove a couple of bolts from memory. All very straightforward. That was 2 years ago and both are working perfectly still.
Hope this is of interest..... I'll share more experiences as they come to mind.
Good luck on job quest OP.
It's true you never know what might lay in wait when you dabble in this market segment. For me, preventative and proactive maintenance reigns supreme. I also benefit from a top mate mechanic who loves RRs, and takes proper pride in his workmanship. He's old school too...doesn't rely on a lap top to tell him what a fault might be.
I forgot to mention a few things in the earlier post.
I always thought the car went well and discovered why when I found a Dutch made tuning box in the ECU chamber. Distributed by a company specialising in tuning BMWs, especially diesels, displaying the true origins of my powertrain. I disconnected it out of curiosity and fuel consumption decreased and the unit was far less responsive. It was quickly plugged back in!
Another mod was to remove the EGR and fit a blanking unit. What prompted me was the trail of smoke I was leaving behind me on acceleration. I felt particular guilt when cyclists would disappear. £45 later, a stainless steel unit occupied the place of the EGR valve. No smoke! Faster pick up! Smoother acceleration! Win, win, win..... This mod is highly recommended and on my old girl there's no need to re programme the ECU. Do it, you know you want to.
I had the rear wiper fail like the OP. It kept dumping water on my parcel shelf. I tried loads of fixes involving glues, silicones etc. All failed. Watching the pennies as per usual I set about a fix. I bought a couple of metres of silicone hosing and some push connectors. I drilled the core of the wiper spline to increase its diameter to 4mm to take the hose I bought. I then spliced my new hose to the original and ran the pipe straight through the wiper spline to the underside of the roof spoiler. Works a treat and cost £6 in total. 2 years on, still functioning great.
The tailgate seal can fail allowing water to leak in to the spare wheel well. In there you'll find the air suspension compressor. Water and air compressors generally are not bed fellows so action was needed when I began to notice gathering water. I changed my underwear after learning the cost of a new seal and then set about finding a cheaper solution. This was found in the form of some black silicone sealant which I applied to the seam on which the rubber seal sits. Perfect new seal created ....no more water ingress! Result!
As we all know, 'stealers' charge a fortune for parts, nowhere is that more obvious than with the electronic tailgate latches. I'm aware owners have spent many many hundreds of £s on sorting sticky latches. I removed mine and oiled them thoroughly. You only need to remove a couple of bolts from memory. All very straightforward. That was 2 years ago and both are working perfectly still.
Hope this is of interest..... I'll share more experiences as they come to mind.
Good luck on job quest OP.
When I removed mine you wouldn't believe the state of the chamber. It was thick...clogged in fact..... with a tar-like, gluey substance. I jet washed it and kept it just in case I had emission later issues. But I didn't thankfully. Worked a treat in my case.....maybe the trick tuning box playing a key role? Who knows....
I will be getting a Terraclean treatment shortly. Prompted by seeing the state of the EGR and realising that that tar like glue was likely to be adhering to other areas of the engine invisible to the naked eye.
I will be getting a Terraclean treatment shortly. Prompted by seeing the state of the EGR and realising that that tar like glue was likely to be adhering to other areas of the engine invisible to the naked eye.
The car does feel like it is let down by some horrendous parts that just fail due to bad design. Silver trim that scratches/peels easily on the interior and the door handles on the outside, plus things like the rear wiper motor and rusty tailgates. It isn't really a case of if, it is when, with things like this (if you use them anything like you would in normal day to day use).
The engine feels really healthy to me and hasn't give me any cause for concern (starts easily, no smoke, smooth power delivery, revs cleanly). The previous owner had no documentation whatsoever, due to a complete lack of organisation, but he did have it serviced regularly by a garage and himself, and this shows (I rang the garage etc.).
Just had the OSF ball joint replaced (well, one of them), and I think the other will need doing in the not too distant future. At least they are cheap!
For reference, for the front air suspension unit (genuine), ball joint, CV boot, lots of hassle of fitting, diag to get the suspension working and whatnot, total bill was £470. No idea what LR would charge (i'm guessing a lot more...).
The engine feels really healthy to me and hasn't give me any cause for concern (starts easily, no smoke, smooth power delivery, revs cleanly). The previous owner had no documentation whatsoever, due to a complete lack of organisation, but he did have it serviced regularly by a garage and himself, and this shows (I rang the garage etc.).
Just had the OSF ball joint replaced (well, one of them), and I think the other will need doing in the not too distant future. At least they are cheap!
For reference, for the front air suspension unit (genuine), ball joint, CV boot, lots of hassle of fitting, diag to get the suspension working and whatnot, total bill was £470. No idea what LR would charge (i'm guessing a lot more...).
Ah, the silver trim and flaking paint! Talk about a car being let down by poor quality interior trim! When searching for my purchase I discounted a couple of examples where there was more underlying black plastic on display than the silver paint covering itself. Thankfully, my ultimate purchase was in good health. There were odd areas in need of touching up, but nothing dramatic.
Once I purchased I set about browsing Range Rover forums for ownership hints and tips. I came across one thread relating to touch up paint for the silver interior trim. A company by the name of paints4u had colour matched this and supplied 100ml pots. I ordered some and was very happy with the result. Whenever a defect occurs I dig the pot out and re-touch it.
To order, you need the custom formulation paint code: STD 29 131 181.
Once I purchased I set about browsing Range Rover forums for ownership hints and tips. I came across one thread relating to touch up paint for the silver interior trim. A company by the name of paints4u had colour matched this and supplied 100ml pots. I ordered some and was very happy with the result. Whenever a defect occurs I dig the pot out and re-touch it.
To order, you need the custom formulation paint code: STD 29 131 181.
MJ85 said:
For reference, for the front air suspension unit (genuine), ball joint, CV boot, lots of hassle of fitting, diag to get the suspension working and whatnot, total bill was £470. No idea what LR would charge (i'm guessing a lot more...).
That sounds like rather a bargain!Lots of love for the L322, such a nice piece of design, especially in non-drug-dealer spec.
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