E60 BMW 5 series on a shoestring

E60 BMW 5 series on a shoestring

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sparks_E39

12,738 posts

214 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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If the wheel is welded to a decent standard it will be absolutely fine, overkill to buy a new wheel if it's fixable. Although I'd suggest it would cost about £80 for a decent job.

Slow

6,973 posts

138 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Had a buckled 20" Range Rover wheel straightened out which then cracked the wheel. Had it welded up and it has been fine for 10k miles on low profile tyres with 750kg of Range Rover on it (assuming 3ton total weight). Some people are overly cautious about these things I think. Obviously depends on the crack but if its just the edge it should be fine to be welded.

I have been somewhat looking at these as my current E46 330i touring just isnt large enough inside. How would you say the space would be for rear passengers with a 6'4" driver?

JakeT

5,448 posts

121 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Lozw86 said:
Wheel stuff
One of mine has been welded in the past along the lip, balances just fine and holds air perfectly. I see no reason why you wouldn't try it.

Windymiller

1,924 posts

241 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Just scour ebay for a spare - you may find a full set of wheels for around £100-150 with crap tyres. Bound to be 1 decent one in a set!

Lozw86

Original Poster:

877 posts

133 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Ok I'll look into wheel repair and refurb today. I could probably get it welded and all 4 wheels refurbed for the cost of 1 new wheel

Slow said:
I have been somewhat looking at these as my current E46 330i touring just isnt large enough inside. How would you say the space would be for rear passengers with a 6'4" driver?
There is probably a few inches more leg room than a 3 series, a noticeable difference but not huge

f1nn

2,693 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Regarding the wheel welding, I think you'll struggle to find many BMW's of this era fitted with 18's or 19's which haven't experienced cracked wheels at some point.

As long as the repair has been done to a decent standard, balances and holds air, then i'd be happy enough.

However, the local alloy refurbers did say that once a wheel had cracked, they usually go again eventually once repaired....how true that is i don't know but the struggle is real!

Yours truly, a 3 series on 8.5" wide, 19" on 30 series profile rubber owner.

Lozw86

Original Poster:

877 posts

133 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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I have just been quoted £360 for a new wheel and £400 for a full 4 wheel refurb and welding of the cracked wheel. I think I'll go for the refurb as the other wheels could do with tidying up

Thinking about getting the paint work detailed, or whether I could improve the appearance of the paintwork myself, as a complete novice


helix402

7,882 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Go for a gen BMW cam cover gasket if you want it to last. Pattern ones only last a year or two.

James_G

347 posts

185 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Very interesting OP.

I've done something similar, in that I stepped out of an M135i after two years and 20k miles into a 2006 C350. What I've lost in features and convenience (Pro Nav and xenons mainly) I've gained in comfort and tranquillity.




whytheory

750 posts

147 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Seems like a proper bargain that, interested to see how you get on, the F30 is a lot to measure up to!

clio007

545 posts

226 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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You will probably end up spending 50% of the purchase price on tidying it up and fixing bits and pieces. Doesn't sound that appealing to me

GrantB5

572 posts

89 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Very pleasing cars the E60 but maintenance can add up. All fun and games smile

Lozw86

Original Poster:

877 posts

133 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Thanks for the advice on the cam cover

Yes I know there will be some costs in getting this car to a reasonable standard, but this was factored in prior to the purchase and was reflected in the price

I am hoping to have this car purchased and tidied up for less than 12 months PCP payments on the F30.

I have ordered a new bonnet roundel / badge today, £3.98. The original has seen better days




Lozw86

Original Poster:

877 posts

133 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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Costs so far:

Item Cost (£)
Car purchase 2600.00
Gear box oil, filter and sump pan 450.00
Rear tyres and tracking 250.00
Front wiper blades 29.99
Locking wheel nut adaptor key 9.25
New BMW badge for bonnet 3.98


Total 3343.22

matt-t1bgt

1 posts

89 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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I have a very similar car, 2004 530i SE (I think the only real difference is that mine is a manual, as it looks like an almost identical spec) I bought my car about 18 months, having come from running virtually new company cars for the past 5/6 years.

Mine had 100k when I bought it and is now just under 120k. I've not had any real problems but a few points that may prove helpful:

-i was told that it's worth changing out the water pump (I didn't research this-just figured I might as well do it- so could be wrong, I was also advised to use OEM pump from BMW).

-One of my water hoses broke at the join -hard to explain properly without photographs- and the car dumped all of its water in a dramatic cloud of steam, leaving me stranded roadside. You can purchase all replacement pipes from BMW for about £150 and I would highly recommend that you do-getting stranded is no fun and tends to ruin any bond you might have with the car.

-Mine developed a very sudden misfire which proved to be a coil. Bosch replacements were about £23 each so I just did all of them, apparently a pretty common failure.

Other than that I've done 20k miles of daily use with no further issues whatsoever. The car had FBMWSH when I bought it and I've continued the servicing using a local BM specialist who seems to think that it's one of the most bombproof cars BM have made-Enjoy!

Oh, and I also had to do cam cover and oil filter base gaskets as it had a small leak.

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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How bad is the cam cover leak? If this is being run on a shoestring then I'd be tempted to leave it and keep an eye on the oil.

My e36 M3 leaks from the same gasket (or somewhere very nearby...) and it doesn't use a drop of oil between services (which to be fair are yearly/6000 miles) so the actual amount of oil loss is negligible.

Barchettaman

6,325 posts

133 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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clio007 said:
You will probably end up spending 50% of the purchase price on tidying it up and fixing bits and pieces. Doesn't sound that appealing to me
You could quite easily spend 1300 quid on a 5k motor tidying up and fixing bits.

The point is, after his spend, the OP is going to have a cracking example, and it looks like it´ll come in at less than 4k, plus a) he´ll know the work has been done, and b) it will have been done recently.

I can see the logic.

seismic22

644 posts

170 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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Barchettaman said:
You could quite easily spend 1300 quid on a 5k motor tidying up and fixing bits.

The point is, after his spend, the OP is going to have a cracking example, and it looks like it´ll come in at less than 4k, plus a) he´ll know the work has been done, and b) it will have been done recently.

I can see the logic.
AND...he will actually own the car after 3 years and have suffered only minute depreciation by comparison to something new on finance or PCP.


funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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seismic22 said:
AND...he will actually own the car after 3 years and have suffered only minute depreciation by comparison to something new on finance or PCP.
He owns the car now. smile

Lozw86

Original Poster:

877 posts

133 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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Yes these are all good points and were the motivating factors for doing it this way

At the end I hope to have a well sorted, comfy 5 series with a smooth straight 6 to run about in for a few years

Replaced the oil filter housing gasket today which looks to have been dripping down to the sump pan, so we'll see if that sorts the leak. Also renewed the brake fluid and spark plugs

Checked out the thermostat, seems to be operating correctly but is possibly leaking coolant, this will be monitored