Jean is in season, what do?

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Pesty

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42,655 posts

256 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Ok first of all isn't this a bit soon she's only 5 months old.

Second she lives with the manliest dog in the world who has been sniffing around her all day. Much as I'd love a house full of puppies I can't cope with her let alone another 6-8 velociraptors in the house.

Not a situation I've been in before what do I need to know, and how do I stop a handful of little Logan's appearing.

Cheers

Turn7

23,607 posts

221 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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IME....

You will need to seperate them during her season, otherwise she will drive Logan insane.

And I mean different house type seperate.

Milly came into season at about 6 months, so its not desperately early.

Hopefully others have better advice, but we a week of hell with our two until we shipped Milly back to her breeder for a short holiday.

essayer

9,065 posts

194 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Do you want to breed from her? One season of mopping up blood was enough to get ours booked in for the op straight away.

The dog will do absolutely anything to get to her, btw, and if they do get the opportunity you can't really stop them 'in the act'.

Could either of them live elsewhere while this is going on?

Pesty

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42,655 posts

256 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Could either of them be elsewhere.

Hmm not an option I'm afraid, plus we have some major issues to deal at the moment.


No , we have no plans to breed her but it would be nice. Logan is intact, he had great hip and elbow scores, the breeder has asked that she can use him as he has an excellent temrement etc.

I always thought you had to wait until they were over a year old until you can have the females fixed?


bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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It is young but not unheard of.

Please please don't let them mate though she is way too young frown.

Will her breeder take her back until it is over? Otherwise no it doesn't matter who gets moved out of the house (but sort it asap)

If not planning to breed then spay 12 weeks post season.

And no you definitely don't need to wait til they are a year. They can be spayed pre season but I generally suggest post 1st season.

Edited by bexVN on Monday 2nd January 23:12

Pesty

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42,655 posts

256 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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No we don't want any babies nothing that will hurt Jean. We will separate them at night and when we can't be around during the day they are usually crated anyway.

Jean is wearing boys pants with a hole cut out for her tail.

My only worry is we only noticed today he's been sniffing around for a few days and I've been unfortunately occupied elsewhere.

Don't want these.




bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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You will struggle even being that vigilant (have heard from enough owners of accidental matings enough to know smile ) if he gets it in him he will go crazy trying to get her!! Though if you are lucky he may be one of the few to not be that bothered.

Pesty

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42,655 posts

256 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Why do these things always happen at the wrong time. Back to work tomorrow I'll be away tomorrow night

At the moment he's just seems to spend a lot of time sniffing around no interest other than that or change of behaviour.

More interested in play fighting.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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It'll be approximately 10-14 days into the season that he could become really obsessed with her. I agree, timing is not the best!!!!

Konan

1,835 posts

146 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Pesty said:
I always thought you had to wait until they were over a year old until you can have the females fixed?
I can't remember the exact timing but there's a specific point in their hormone cycle at which it's considered best to have them done. Something like 3 months after the end of the season.

Misty left no avenue unexplored when it came to opportunities to breed. We had to keep her on a lead everywhere. She even had a go at enticing Hiss, who being female... and a cat, wasn't best pleased.

Pesty

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42,655 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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laugh

Ok well we what we can do, I'll also have a word with the breeder but seeing as she's quite a way away and probably won't have room anyway.

Plus to be honest I'm a huge softy and not sure I could rest easy with her not being here.

I know I know.

Turn7

23,607 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Honestly dude, she will drive Logan truly insane - unless you have witnessed it, you wont beleive it.
We went through the exact thing, and ended up driving to Warwick from Tring one evening to drop Milly off.
Some vets will spay very early, but its your choice.

Mexican cuties

691 posts

122 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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especially regarding costs for emergency caesareans etc, also bex will know that you can have complications with such a young dog getting pregnant, he will find a way unless they are 100% separate, so good luck

jmsgld

1,010 posts

176 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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I have seen several dogs literally chew through internal doors / walls to get to a receptive bh.

If (/ when )they do get together then once they have tied you absolutely must not try to separate them as you will cause significant damage.

She is way too young to have a litter, termination is an option but it is expensive and no good for her, better separate them now.




Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Season is a nightmare. Poppy was quite heavy last time and we purchased some dog pants for her. Blood and cream carpets do not mix! They even had a small string pocket for a pad (sad eh?). The vet said that she can be spayed between seasons so that's next on the list.

Added: That's one thing I remember from childhood is my parents putting Goldie in the bathroom at night and the Labrador howling the place down at 3am. Dad coming down reading him the riot act and then 30 seconds after going back up it would repeat.
That and the smell of Antimate (I think it was called) horrid smelling stuff that you sprayed on their tail to put the dog off.

Edited by Morningside on Wednesday 4th January 11:04

JordanM200

180 posts

128 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Thought I would reply to this thread rather than create a new one, as it's on the same topic.

My female pup is now 4 months old, so maybe in season in the upcoming months. I want to get her spayed, and just wondered when this can be done? Ideally I would like her done ASAP, but wasn't sure if she too young to have the op?

Thanks

garythesign

2,089 posts

88 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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JordanM200 said:
Thought I would reply to this thread rather than create a new one, as it's on the same topic.

My female pup is now 4 months old, so maybe in season in the upcoming months. I want to get her spayed, and just wondered when this can be done? Ideally I would like her done ASAP, but wasn't sure if she too young to have the op?

Thanks
Our vet's advice has been to let them have one season before spaying. The timing of the first season seems to vary wildly.

The operation should take place about 12 weeks after the first season, i.e. in between seasons. This is to allow everything to be as settled as possible.

Happy to be corrected by those that work in the profession.

Ours had a false pregnancy, which was very worrying until we understood what was happening

garythesign

2,089 posts

88 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Have you someone who could look after Pesty?

Maybe even consider.........a kennel. There, I have said it

JordanM200

180 posts

128 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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garythesign said:
Our vet's advice has been to let them have one season before spaying. The timing of the first season seems to vary wildly.

The operation should take place about 12 weeks after the first season, i.e. in between seasons. This is to allow everything to be as settled as possible.

Happy to be corrected by those that work in the profession.

Ours had a false pregnancy, which was very worrying until we understood what was happening
Just been on the phone to my local vet, and yeah basically let her have her first season, then 3 months after that she is good to go for the op.

I am a bit worried I guess with regards to male dogs etc, as had originally planned to do ASAP.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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JordanM200 said:
garythesign said:
Our vet's advice has been to let them have one season before spaying. The timing of the first season seems to vary wildly.

The operation should take place about 12 weeks after the first season, i.e. in between seasons. This is to allow everything to be as settled as possible.

Happy to be corrected by those that work in the profession.

Ours had a false pregnancy, which was very worrying until we understood what was happening
Just been on the phone to my local vet, and yeah basically let her have her first season, then 3 months after that she is good to go for the op.

I am a bit worried I guess with regards to male dogs etc, as had originally planned to do ASAP.
Pre season spaying can be done but can depend on breed, some shouldn't be. Pre season spaying was done regularly at my last practice and is the norm in animal charities etc.

Our female whippet was done before her first season (by her previous owner)

So absolutely possible to do, however personally I would do one season then spay (I would have done this if we'd had Mabel our whippet from a pup).