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Really rather looking forward to this.
Blurb said:
From the opening shot of SS-GB, it is clear this is a world that is both familiar but also arrestingly alien. There are the rolling hills of the South Downs, the dome of St Paul’s and opulent columns of Buckingham Palace – with a difference: they are all emblazoned with swastikas.
The series is the newest ambitious, big-budget drama from the BBC. Based on the bestselling novel by Len Deighton, SS-GB envisions a world in 1941 in which the Nazis won the Battle of Britain and took full control of the UK. It is, according to the creators, “the ultimate post-truth drama – what could be more fitting for this moment in time?”
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/feb/10/ss-gb-nazi-britain-dystopian-parallel-universe-television-dramaThe series is the newest ambitious, big-budget drama from the BBC. Based on the bestselling novel by Len Deighton, SS-GB envisions a world in 1941 in which the Nazis won the Battle of Britain and took full control of the UK. It is, according to the creators, “the ultimate post-truth drama – what could be more fitting for this moment in time?”
I'm looking forward to this.
I am not a fan of speculative histories - a few nice touches aside, Man in the High Castle is a disappointing show to be honest - not read the book in fairness.
I did like Fatherland by Robert Harris though - its a sensible set of suppositions and extrapolations from what we already know and that makes the story believable and compelling. High Castle all just feels a bit far fetched.
This looks slickly done and I have heard good things about the book so I am looking forward to it.
I am not a fan of speculative histories - a few nice touches aside, Man in the High Castle is a disappointing show to be honest - not read the book in fairness.
I did like Fatherland by Robert Harris though - its a sensible set of suppositions and extrapolations from what we already know and that makes the story believable and compelling. High Castle all just feels a bit far fetched.
This looks slickly done and I have heard good things about the book so I am looking forward to it.
Vocal Minority said:
I am not a fan of speculative histories - a few nice touches aside, Man in the High Castle is a disappointing show to be honest - not read the book in fairness.
I did like Fatherland by Robert Harris though - its a sensible set of suppositions and extrapolations from what we already know and that makes the story believable and compelling. High Castle all just feels a bit far fetched.
It has been quite a while since I read either but, from memory, I seem to remember thinking at the time I read Fatherland that it was in a similar vein to SSGB which I had read previously. I did like Fatherland by Robert Harris though - its a sensible set of suppositions and extrapolations from what we already know and that makes the story believable and compelling. High Castle all just feels a bit far fetched.
I am looking forward to the TV adaptation.
EDIT: Just spotted that it starts this Sunday - sooner than I thought!
Edited by Lurking Lawyer on Monday 13th February 16:37
Blurb said:
From the opening shot of SS-GB, it is clear this is a world that is both familiar but also arrestingly alien. There are the rolling hills of the South Downs, the dome of St Paul’s and opulent columns of Buckingham Palace – with a difference: they are all emblazoned with swastikas.
The series is the newest ambitious, big-budget drama from the BBC. Based on the bestselling novel by Len Deighton, SS-GB envisions a world in 1941 in which the Nazis won the Battle of Britain and took full control of the UK. It is, according to the creators, “the ultimate post-truth drama – what could be more fitting for this moment in time?”
It's post-truth in as much as it couldn't possibly have happened, even with supposed German air superiority. Lets hope it's better than the dreadful "Close to teh Enemy" that the BBC produced recently.The series is the newest ambitious, big-budget drama from the BBC. Based on the bestselling novel by Len Deighton, SS-GB envisions a world in 1941 in which the Nazis won the Battle of Britain and took full control of the UK. It is, according to the creators, “the ultimate post-truth drama – what could be more fitting for this moment in time?”
I honestly haven't given much thought to the logistical side of it - why would it not happen in your opinion?
I always thought that they would do what they did with France, with a puppet government located elsewhere. Though I suppose a physically occupied rump somewhere like the south east would need retaining
I always thought that they would do what they did with France, with a puppet government located elsewhere. Though I suppose a physically occupied rump somewhere like the south east would need retaining
TEKNOPUG said:
It's post-truth in as much as it couldn't possibly have happened, even with supposed German air superiority. Lets hope it's better than the dreadful "Close to the Enemy" that the BBC produced recently.
"Close to The Enemy" yes, I gave up on that after just a couple of episodes. it was all very implausible but worse than that was Jim Sturgess's accent. He seemed to play Captain Callum Ferguson with some weird clipped cockney/vaguely american/vaguely estrine accent that as a Londoner made me turn off. It was just awful! TEKNOPUG said:
Blurb said:
From the opening shot of SS-GB, it is clear this is a world that is both familiar but also arrestingly alien. There are the rolling hills of the South Downs, the dome of St Paul’s and opulent columns of Buckingham Palace – with a difference: they are all emblazoned with swastikas.
The series is the newest ambitious, big-budget drama from the BBC. Based on the bestselling novel by Len Deighton, SS-GB envisions a world in 1941 in which the Nazis won the Battle of Britain and took full control of the UK. It is, according to the creators, “the ultimate post-truth drama – what could be more fitting for this moment in time?”
It's post-truth in as much as it couldn't possibly have happened, even with supposed German air superiority. Lets hope it's better than the dreadful "Close to teh Enemy" that the BBC produced recently.The series is the newest ambitious, big-budget drama from the BBC. Based on the bestselling novel by Len Deighton, SS-GB envisions a world in 1941 in which the Nazis won the Battle of Britain and took full control of the UK. It is, according to the creators, “the ultimate post-truth drama – what could be more fitting for this moment in time?”
From what I remember of the war gaming done in the years afterwards an invasion in the south was possible and would have worked inland for quite a way but seriously slowed by the various defences that were in place (and there were lots) which would have given time to get forces down to cut the supply lines and stop the whole thing.
Would have been difficult on both sides though, and subject to the whim of history about who could sustain forces and supplies.
If various things had gone differently at a few points in the war it could have happened, there was nothing absolute to stop it.
RichB said:
TEKNOPUG said:
It's post-truth in as much as it couldn't possibly have happened, even with supposed German air superiority. Lets hope it's better than the dreadful "Close to the Enemy" that the BBC produced recently.
"Close to The Enemy" yes, I gave up on that after just a couple of episodes. it was all very implausible but worse than that was Jim Sturgess's accent. He seemed to play Captain Callum Ferguson with some weird clipped cockney/vaguely american/vaguely estrine accent that as a Londoner made me turn off. It was just awful! Jonesy23 said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Blurb said:
From the opening shot of SS-GB, it is clear this is a world that is both familiar but also arrestingly alien. There are the rolling hills of the South Downs, the dome of St Paul’s and opulent columns of Buckingham Palace – with a difference: they are all emblazoned with swastikas.
The series is the newest ambitious, big-budget drama from the BBC. Based on the bestselling novel by Len Deighton, SS-GB envisions a world in 1941 in which the Nazis won the Battle of Britain and took full control of the UK. It is, according to the creators, “the ultimate post-truth drama – what could be more fitting for this moment in time?”
It's post-truth in as much as it couldn't possibly have happened, even with supposed German air superiority. Lets hope it's better than the dreadful "Close to teh Enemy" that the BBC produced recently.The series is the newest ambitious, big-budget drama from the BBC. Based on the bestselling novel by Len Deighton, SS-GB envisions a world in 1941 in which the Nazis won the Battle of Britain and took full control of the UK. It is, according to the creators, “the ultimate post-truth drama – what could be more fitting for this moment in time?”
From what I remember of the war gaming done in the years afterwards an invasion in the south was possible and would have worked inland for quite a way but seriously slowed by the various defences that were in place (and there were lots) which would have given time to get forces down to cut the supply lines and stop the whole thing.
Jonesy23 said:
If various things had gone differently at a few points in the war it could have happened, there was nothing absolute to stop it.
The thing that would absolutely stop it was the Royal Navy. The Germans had no way of countering the Home Fleet, even with air superiority over the Channel. All the leading German military figures acknowledged this; Goering, Donitz, Raeder, Galland, Von Rundstedt etc thought that it was not possible and didn't even consider it a serious proposition. It was at best a political bluff.Vocal Minority said:
I honestly haven't given much thought to the logistical side of it - why would it not happen in your opinion?
I always thought that they would do what they did with France, with a puppet government located elsewhere. Though I suppose a physically occupied rump somewhere like the south east would need retaining
Nobody has ever come up with a working scenario for Operation Sea Lion. It has been discussed to death on 'what-if' and alt-history forums and in every case the invasion fleet ends up at the bottom of the channel, assuming it makes it out of harbour in the first place.I always thought that they would do what they did with France, with a puppet government located elsewhere. Though I suppose a physically occupied rump somewhere like the south east would need retaining
Operation sea lion was pretty much a non starter here's a link to the war game carried out at Sandhurst in 1974 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea_Lion_(...
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