Triumph Bonneville Launch

Triumph Bonneville Launch

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Pothole

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34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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I went along to my "local" dealer last night, mainly to see the Bobber and perhaps book a test ride.

What an amateurish, poorly organised crock. The showroom was packed top the gunwales despite it being stty weather, cars parked both sides of the main road half on the pavement and half over the yellow lines because they hadn't thought about organising anything off the road, despite Doris being forecast days ago and there being all sorts of industrial units with big empty car parks within a few minutes walk of the showroom. God knows how many more people would have crammed into the place had it not been blowing a hooligan and raining.

The bikes were under covers in the middle of the room, but on the ground, so barely visible from two rows back behind the fat, balding, poor "enthusiasts" of a certain age who had only turned up to moan that they weren't "proper" Bonnevilles and a late 70s, poorly constructed Meriden/CoOp oil pisser was way better (judging by what was said after the covers finally came off, anyway)

The big reveal was delayed by about 15 minutes so more sardines could be jammed into an already full tin and when the covers finally came off, the "jokes" started. Now I know the guys opresenting are only sales people and not professional comedians but your Nan could have done better. At least she'd have learnt some salient points about power, torque and performance, or even paint colours. Part of the patter appeared to have been scripted by Triumph HQ but this was delivered at a 5 year old's reading standard.

The saddest thing for me though was the idea that motorcycling has become like car ownership for the masses. Not once was a list price mentioned, only monthly cost on Tristar finance. Triumph also appear to be aping Harley: ("there are 150 different accessories and options on each of these machines").

The icing on the cake "you'll be able to place orders for any of these bikes from tomorrow morning....what?...Oh, hang on...oh yeah. OK, from tonight" (if you could drag a saleman away fromn chatting with one of the aformentioned crusty old tossers)

I had to console myself with a new Jacket (with 20% off, which softened the blow somewhat.

SIGH.

crofty1984

15,859 posts

204 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Hey! I like my Meriden oil pisser!

Weso

447 posts

204 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Enjoyed it then?

dirkgently

2,160 posts

231 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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crofty1984 said:
Hey! I like my Meriden oil pisser!
My Meriden oil pisser has done over 100000 miles, has always got me home and has never leaked oil.

Richyboy

3,739 posts

217 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Did they say anything about the quarter mile option for the bobber - what kind of exhaust and performance upgrades you get etc (heard about it on some YouTube clip)?

Fish

3,976 posts

282 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Due to pick my Bobber up end of May early June.... can't wait.

graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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dirkgently said:
crofty1984 said:
Hey! I like my Meriden oil pisser!
My Meriden oil pisser has done over 100000 miles, has always got me home and has never leaked oil.
Think we've found who was stood in front of Pothole.

Pothole

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34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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dirkgently said:
crofty1984 said:
Hey! I like my Meriden oil pisser!
My Meriden oil pisser has done over 100000 miles, has always got me home and has never leaked oil.
If it ain't leaked, it ain't a pisser so I ain't talking about your bike. Tsk.

Pothole

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34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Richyboy said:
Did they say anything about the quarter mile option for the bobber - what kind of exhaust and performance upgrades you get etc (heard about it on some YouTube clip)?
No, just that you could get clip ons or ape hangers.

Clip ons. Really?

dirkgently

2,160 posts

231 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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graham22 said:
dirkgently said:
crofty1984 said:
Hey! I like my Meriden oil pisser!
My Meriden oil pisser has done over 100000 miles, has always got me home and has never leaked oil.
Think we've found who was stood in front of Pothole.
If I`m honest I don't understand the market for retro bikes that Triumph produce and I just get tired of the leaky British bike BS.

crofty1984

15,859 posts

204 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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My Bonneville is pretty oil tight, but the BSA is definitely a bit leaky.

Pothole

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34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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dirkgently said:
graham22 said:
dirkgently said:
crofty1984 said:
Hey! I like my Meriden oil pisser!
My Meriden oil pisser has done over 100000 miles, has always got me home and has never leaked oil.
Think we've found who was stood in front of Pothole.
If I`m honest I don't understand the market for retro bikes that Triumph produce and I just get tired of the leaky British bike BS.
Your anecdata would appear to be trumped by mine. My good mate in the TOMCC has 22 British bikes, mostly Triumphs, ranging from a Model P to a Hinckley 955i Speed Triple. All the older models have oil trays underneath them in his garage and most of them need them. it was only a throwaway remark, don't get too upset.

casbar

1,103 posts

215 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Good write up and pretty much sums up my experience of previous Triumph launches. I am one of those old gits, that has owned and ridden old brit bikes since the mid 70s. I do not lament their passing and have moved on. Good luck to Triumph with their retro range, not for me, but they look good and the reviews I've read seem good. If their model range get new riders into biking good on them.

Pothole

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34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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casbar said:
Good write up and pretty much sums up my experience of previous Triumph launches. I am one of those old gits, that has owned and ridden old brit bikes since the mid 70s. I do not lament their passing and have moved on. Good luck to Triumph with their retro range, not for me, but they look good and the reviews I've read seem good. If their model range get new riders into biking good on them.
I agree, it was just the "event" that was poor. I'll probably take a pootle on the Bobber when I take the Tiger Sport in for a service next Month.

rapide

180 posts

249 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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dirkgently said:
If I`m honest I don't understand the market for retro bikes that Triumph produce and I just get tired of the leaky British bike BS.
I don't understand how anyone couldn't understand? I understand not wanting a retro bike, I don't want one

New, modern bike with classic looks styled around an era made out as being cool by film, TV, fashion, media (no idea if it was or not given I'm in my 30s)

Ergo you get to feel all cool and fashionable and stuff inside and in the reflection of shop windows, with zero hassle and manageable, monthly payments

BobSaunders

3,033 posts

155 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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rapide said:
Ergo you get to feel all cool and fashionable and stuff inside and in the reflection of shop windows, with zero hassle and manageable, monthly payments
And that sir... is the retro bike scene wrapped up in one sentence..

Wacky Racer

38,162 posts

247 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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As nice and reliable as the current Bonneville range are, I don't think they have quite got the looks right, and don't hold a candle to the Meriden 1968-9 Export models which were perfection.

Having said that, I intend to place an order for a "new" T120 in the near future.

Here is the launch at Youles motorcycles...


dirkgently

2,160 posts

231 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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rapide said:
I don't understand how anyone couldn't understand? I understand not wanting a retro bike, I don't want one

New, modern bike with classic looks styled around an era made out as being cool by film, TV, fashion, media (no idea if it was or not given I'm in my 30s)

Ergo you get to feel all cool and fashionable and stuff inside and in the reflection of shop windows, with zero hassle and manageable, monthly payments
Look, it ain't right, there are minis the size of a small bus, Beatles with no split screen Bonnevilles that don't shake your eyeballs and fillings out, next thing you know they will be remaking Get Carter. bds.

rapide

180 posts

249 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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dirkgently said:
Look, it ain't right, there are minis the size of a small bus, Beatles with no split screen Bonnevilles that don't shake your eyeballs and fillings out, next thing you know they will be remaking Get Carter. bds.
I couldn't agree more. But sadly we're both just aging, grumpy and wrong. You can't argue with popularity, and the owners of all the above are happy as Larry

I await, with gritted teeth, the remake of that Sly Stallone classic winkgetmecoat




Pothole

Original Poster:

34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Wacky Racer said:
As nice and reliable as the current Bonneville range are, I don't think they have quite got the looks right, and don't hold a candle to the Meriden 1968-9 Export models which were perfection.

Having said that, I intend to place an order for a "new" T120 in the near future.

Here is the launch at Youles motorcycles...

Similar scene, except Staffs Triumph's roof is only about 10 feet high.