More disk brake in the peleton problems

More disk brake in the peleton problems

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Don1

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15,939 posts

208 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Owain Doull says a disk sliced through his shoe. Not good...

Thoughts?

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

199 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Strange that, I've noticed quite a few of the pro riders using disc brakes. I personally think the caliper brakes were fine but that's progress.

I'm sure that the brake manufacturers will hone this perfection!

Big Rod

6,199 posts

216 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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I don't see how they can be any more dangerous than chainrings, gearsets or spokes or why there's so much focus on the perceived danger.

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

135 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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1) Because they stick out in places you are likely to contact a way that the aforementioned items do not..
2) Because 99% of folks seem to be vehemently pro, or vehemently anti with little logic or openess to debate, so every thread descends into a tribal war.

smifffymoto

4,545 posts

205 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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The leather or fabric is so thin on light weight shoes,plus ventilation perforations,anything could be responsible for a cut/rip.

Your Dad

1,933 posts

183 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Was mentioned somewhere yesterday (road.cc or cyclingweekly) that it's his left foot, Kittel was to his right and a rusty crash barrier was on the LHS of Doull.

confused

lukefreeman

1,494 posts

175 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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More importantly, alert the fashion police. Discs look ghastly on road bikes.

AlasdairMc

555 posts

127 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Your Dad said:
Was mentioned somewhere yesterday (road.cc or cyclingweekly) that it's his left foot, Kittel was to his right and a rusty crash barrier was on the LHS of Doull.

confused
How is it possibly the disc then? I can't see it being possible to hit the left foot with a rotor as it's protected by the other side of the bike?

R1gtr

3,426 posts

154 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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No chance that his foot went anywhere near a disc rotor. All this is is team Sky and a few big players who have not embraced disc brakes trying to put people off them. Discs are the way forward and the likes of Canyon, Cube and Cannondale have embraced them but the Italian manufacturers have been caught napping.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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is anyone getting bored of this debate, it was all over the cycling sites, cycling facebook groups etc etc

I don't really care if professional cyclists use disks , especially when sunday riders use it to justify their bike choice!!!

Don1

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15,939 posts

208 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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I certainly don't understand their reluctance. They haven't let me down thus far - cable or hydro!

snobetter

1,159 posts

146 months

AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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R1gtr said:
All this is team Sky and a few big players who have not embraced disc brakes trying to put people off them. Discs are the way forward and the likes of Canyon, Cube and Cannondale have embraced them but the Italian manufacturers have been caught napping.
yes If only Pinarello produced a high-end disc-braked frame that Team Sky could use. Something like the F8, but with discs:

Oh...rolleyes

R1gtr

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154 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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AyBee said:
R1gtr said:
All this is team Sky and a few big players who have not embraced disc brakes trying to put people off them. Discs are the way forward and the likes of Canyon, Cube and Cannondale have embraced them but the Italian manufacturers have been caught napping.
yes If only Pinarello produced a high-end disc-braked frame that Team Sky could use. Something like the F8, but with discs:

Oh...rolleyes
I am sticking with my comment- Pinarello, Cervelo, Colnago, Bianchi and the likes have not embraced discs like other manufacturers despite the model above.
How did his left foot get caught up with a disc which would have been next to his right foot? He ripped his foot on a barrier so why claim it was a disc? Lying is just what Team Sky need right now isn't it?

AyBee

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202 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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R1gtr said:
I am sticking with my comment- Pinarello, Cervelo, Colnago, Bianchi and the likes have not embraced discs like other manufacturers despite the model above.
How did his left foot get caught up with a disc which would have been next to his right foot? He ripped his foot on a barrier so why claim it was a disc? Lying is just what Team Sky need right now isn't it?
I'm just saying that they could ride disc-braked bikes if they so choose, they just don't see the need. Like someone else said, I don't think everyone will ever agree with one or the other but personally, regardless of safety, I think road bikes should just stick with rim brakes. I have 3 road bikes and a TT bike and none of them have disc brakes and I've never needed more performance from any of them, wet or dry.

R1gtr

3,426 posts

154 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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AyBee said:
R1gtr said:
I am sticking with my comment- Pinarello, Cervelo, Colnago, Bianchi and the likes have not embraced discs like other manufacturers despite the model above.
How did his left foot get caught up with a disc which would have been next to his right foot? He ripped his foot on a barrier so why claim it was a disc? Lying is just what Team Sky need right now isn't it?
I'm just saying that they could ride disc-braked bikes if they so choose, they just don't see the need. Like someone else said, I don't think everyone will ever agree with one or the other but personally, regardless of safety, I think road bikes should just stick with rim brakes. I have 3 road bikes and a TT bike and none of them have disc brakes and I've never needed more performance from any of them, wet or dry.
I get where you are coming from- they have the choice to use them if they want or stick to rim brakes, it's just it feels like some in the Pro ranks are desperate for disc brakes to fail.
My last bike had rim brakes which were perfectly good and the new bike has disc brakes which I was not actually looking for but the bike was a bargain. Now I have them I like them but would not be bothered if my next bike had rim brakes.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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R1gtr said:
AyBee said:
R1gtr said:
All this is team Sky and a few big players who have not embraced disc brakes trying to put people off them. Discs are the way forward and the likes of Canyon, Cube and Cannondale have embraced them but the Italian manufacturers have been caught napping.
yes If only Pinarello produced a high-end disc-braked frame that Team Sky could use. Something like the F8, but with discs:

Oh...rolleyes
I am sticking with my comment- Pinarello, Cervelo, Colnago, Bianchi and the likes have not embraced discs like other manufacturers despite the model above.
How did his left foot get caught up with a disc which would have been next to his right foot? He ripped his foot on a barrier so why claim it was a disc? Lying is just what Team Sky need right now isn't it?
What utter st. Cervelo offer a disc brake version of most bikes and Vroomen is half of Open Cycles who have done more to embrace this disc/gravel fad than many others. How many wheel and tyre combinations does the Up support?

Trek, Specialized and Giant have very aggressive marketing strategies, told everyone they needed disc brakes or they would die and lo and behold every bloody high end road bike now comes with disc brakes despite the fact they are our Sunday summer bikes but at least the Surrey wobblers can descend those fearsome hills without worrying now!!

Sure, endurance and commuter bikes I get, the wet weather reliability is good, my planet x London road has discs but why you need discs on an Pinarello F8 is beyond me. The pros can descend without them and even if we all had F8s, very few of us would visit the Alps where, leaving in skill or confidence, we'd be dragging the brakes and heating up the rims.

Marketing, pure and simple. The pros don't need discs but the bean counters can see that if the pros use them, the tubby wobblers will be convinced they need another bike despite never descending these famous cols, they need discs.... I'm looking forward to the cheap rim braked, second hand bikes coming on the market soon!....

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 24th February 17:39

joema

2,647 posts

179 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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AlasdairMc said:
Your Dad said:
Was mentioned somewhere yesterday (road.cc or cyclingweekly) that it's his left foot, Kittel was to his right and a rusty crash barrier was on the LHS of Doull.

confused
How is it possibly the disc then? I can't see it being possible to hit the left foot with a rotor as it's protected by the other side of the bike?
This and only this.

You might not think they need discs but on an alpine descent in the wet I'm sure discs have their advantages. Consistent braking for starters.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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I can see the marketing people have you in their pocket...

mcelliott

8,656 posts

181 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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joema said:
AlasdairMc said:
Your Dad said:
Was mentioned somewhere yesterday (road.cc or cyclingweekly) that it's his left foot, Kittel was to his right and a rusty crash barrier was on the LHS of Doull.

confused
How is it possibly the disc then? I can't see it being possible to hit the left foot with a rotor as it's protected by the other side of the bike?
This and only this.

You might not think they need discs but on an alpine descent in the wet I'm sure discs have their advantages. Consistent braking for starters.
I disagree. You don't "need" brake discs, in any situation, on a road bike. Rim brakes are perfectly adequate in any situation, I've descended 100s of km of wet/dry descents in the Alps, and you just ride accordingly to the conditions.

Edited by mcelliott on Friday 24th February 19:08