981 purchase

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flying scotsman

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123 posts

222 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Further to my pasm post- I saw the car today and will drive it tomorrow. The car is due a major service, plus brake fluid and spark plug change at circa £1000 within the next 3000 or June. The selling garage which have porsche approved technicians said they will do this as part of the sale, is this good enough or should I get a reduced price and pay for the service at opc myself or is it reasonable to ask them to get it done at opc for full sale price? Additionally after speaking an opc today, they confirmed that the car has approved warranty and according to the extremely helpful service manager he said that "he wouldnt tell if I didn't and that the warranty was valid until march 2018. How will an opc know that I have bought the car independently and invalidate the warranty?
Finally, no sign of brake pad change yet, what is the average mileage people are getting without trackdays etc?
Thanks again for all your advice...

Green1man

549 posts

88 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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If it has warranty until March 18 then that is an extended warranty not the standard 3 years, as such to maintain this all servicing must be performed at OPC, hence you might be better trying to negotiate some deal around that.

Just inspect the brakes to figure out how much life is left in them.

flying scotsman

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123 posts

222 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Ok, I am trying to find the small print on the porsche website to confirm that all servicing need to be carried out at opc. Thanks for your input.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Hang on, the next service isn't due for 4 months or 3,000 miles. Why have anything done now?

The main question you should be asking is how many months warranty the seller is offering on the car. And check carefully what is covered in view of the age of the vehicle.

As regards any other warranty I would expect the seller to show clear evidence of when the car was first registered, the date on which any remaining Porsche warranty will expire and that the car has been serviced to manufacturer's schedule. When push comes to shove you would need to buy from an OPC to have absolute certainty of full Porsche after-sales support. Next best thing would be to make sure all previous maintenance is fully supported by OPC invoices.

You don't want to find out somewhere down the line that verbal assurances from the salesman aren't worth a row of beans.

Green1man

549 posts

88 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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A few things to note here:

The standard Porsche 3 year warranty can not insist on servicing being carried out at OPC due to EC rules, but you do have to prove servicing of same quality is performed (this is the same for any car).

However this car obviously has an extended warranty, the terms for this can be different and if this is the standard Porsche extended Warrenty then one of the terms is that it is serviced at OPC, you probably won't find these conditions on Porsche Website, but I have the docs for my 981with extended warranty, so can confirm what it says.

stevod

449 posts

140 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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^the Porsche manufacturer warranty is two years

Green1man

549 posts

88 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Not in the uk it isn't. 3 years. It used to be 2 years with an optional third (that every took anyway) now it's 3 years standard (in U.K. anyway)

flying scotsman

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123 posts

222 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Thanks for all your help.
I am holding fire on the boxster just now as I have 2 young children and although I thought I could get away with only a 2 seater I think the reality is that I probably should get a car with four seats. My wife has told me as much!
Regards the boxster, it is a good looking car, retro fitted pse and the selling garage have said they would do major service inc spark plugs and brake fluid as part of the sale as it is due soon. Car is covered by porsche extended warranty as the car was an approved opc sale in march 2016 so had 111 point check and 2 year warranty applied. The validity of this is questionable as it is being sold by an indy.
I also tested a certain cat d 911 gts yesterday which, although not the car for me due to it not having heated seats and my fear of its resale difficulty, has made me think that I will go the 911 way even though I think the 981 sounded better...

ATM

18,284 posts

219 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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flying scotsman said:
Thanks for all your help.
I am holding fire on the boxster just now as I have 2 young children and although I thought I could get away with only a 2 seater I think the reality is that I probably should get a car with four seats. My wife has told me as much!
Regards the boxster, it is a good looking car, retro fitted pse and the selling garage have said they would do major service inc spark plugs and brake fluid as part of the sale as it is due soon. Car is covered by porsche extended warranty as the car was an approved opc sale in march 2016 so had 111 point check and 2 year warranty applied. The validity of this is questionable as it is being sold by an indy.
I also tested a certain cat d 911 gts yesterday which, although not the car for me due to it not having heated seats and my fear of its resale difficulty, has made me think that I will go the 911 way even though I think the 981 sounded better...
I thought if a P car is sold by a dealer [today] then the 2 year warranty [from march 2016] is not transferable?

Sir_Dave

1,495 posts

210 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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ATM]I thought if a P car is sold by a dealer [today] then the 2 year warranty [from march 2016 said:
is not transferable?
I was told that by the Indi that i bought mine from. Was an OPC car in May 16, so 2 years warranty, but i bought it in Oct 16 from an Indie, so no more Porsche warranty as far as im aware.

Green1man

549 posts

88 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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The extended Porsche Warranty is transferable if selling privately or to an OPC, so in the case above it is likely not transferable.

Mike Brown

585 posts

187 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Would you mind telling me where this car is as I quite like the idea of a 981 with pse, many thanks Mike

Jim1556

1,771 posts

156 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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If it's being sold via SOR, it counts as a private sale - some companies do this as it's virtually zero financial outlay (they act as an agent), and it allows the warranty to be passed on...

I'd be happy buying this way, provided it passes an 111 point check at an OPC.

ATM

18,284 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Jim1556 said:
If it's being sold via SOR, it counts as a private sale - some companies do this as it's virtually zero financial outlay (they act as an agent), and it allows the warranty to be passed on...

I'd be happy buying this way, provided it passes an 111 point check at an OPC.
I would advise anyone reading to NEVER do this. If the garage sell the car and keep the money then there is ZERO come back. You lose your car and get no money.

7184c

415 posts

91 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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ATM said:
I would advise anyone reading to NEVER do this. If the garage sell the car and keep the money then there is ZERO come back. You lose your car and get no money.
Can't do that if you keep v5?

ATM

18,284 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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7184c said:
ATM said:
I would advise anyone reading to NEVER do this. If the garage sell the car and keep the money then there is ZERO come back. You lose your car and get no money.
Can't do that if you keep v5?
Possession is 9 tenths of the law. They would have a receipt, the car and the keys. It is still a bad idea.

Bennachie

1,090 posts

151 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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V5 is keeper not owner.........

Mario149

7,754 posts

178 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Green1man said:
Not in the uk it isn't. 3 years. It used to be 2 years with an optional third (that every took anyway) now it's 3 years standard (in U.K. anyway)
Interesting....when did it change from 2 to 3 years? I distinctly remember being offered the 3rd year for another £400 or so when I was making final payment for my BGTS in June '15 before flying out to collect from factory....

Cabsi

263 posts

139 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Mike Brown said:
Would you mind telling me where this car is as I quite like the idea of a 981 with pse, many thanks Mike
The silver one was at 911Box in Keston, Kent, but I'm not sure if the OP bought it?


ATM

18,284 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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Mario149 said:
Green1man said:
Not in the uk it isn't. 3 years. It used to be 2 years with an optional third (that every took anyway) now it's 3 years standard (in U.K. anyway)
Interesting....when did it change from 2 to 3 years? I distinctly remember being offered the 3rd year for another £400 or so when I was making final payment for my BGTS in June '15 before flying out to collect from factory....
Has been for a while. When I bought my 997 in 2005 it was 3 years. Porsche came with 2 year from factory and I think porsche gb paid for the additional 3rd year without telling the owner.