Jaguar F-Pace Non Runner
Discussion
B'stard Child said:
I'm sure that it's fine for the 70 to 80 K and 4 years it does in company car ownership - It'll be w
kered by the time it's had 2 more years "private" ownership There was a poster on here (think it was a V6 though ?) Owned from new, reached time limit not miles for first service; due to go in thought he'd check the oil. IIRC ? His initial post was asking what was considered an acceptable amount of metal filings stuck to the dipstick
paradigital said:
Dave211 said:
Why stuff in an engine of unknown internals. A new crank with rods pistons and bearings with all the associated seals/gaskets is about £1500.
It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
Have you read the rest of the thread?It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
The engine has already been rebuilt a few times…
Edited by A.J.M on Tuesday 23 April 19:52
Looking forward to another roller coaster ride for the next 93 pages.
OP, I believe your plan is the best plan.
We have 2 JLR cars, a 2012 evoque and a 2015 v6 F-type, which we have owned for 5 years and 4 years respectively. We have only had one issue. It was a Hadlex pump on the evoque. It’s an Audi part.
Good luck OP, you are overdue a break.
OP, I believe your plan is the best plan.
We have 2 JLR cars, a 2012 evoque and a 2015 v6 F-type, which we have owned for 5 years and 4 years respectively. We have only had one issue. It was a Hadlex pump on the evoque. It’s an Audi part.
Good luck OP, you are overdue a break.
Dave211 said:
Why stuff in an engine of unknown internals. A new crank with rods pistons and bearings with all the associated seals/gaskets is about £1500.
It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
This engine at the very least needs 1 new liner, possibly more. It most likely needs a new head, too.It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
Richbo said:
Everything crossed for you eccsy, hope it all goes smoothly for you. Good luck.
I love how many posters on this thread spell Escy's name as Ecsy, or in this case, eccsy. 
Best of luck with the new engine. I hope it's a reliable one for you. You certainly deserve a change in fortunes.
skwdenyer said:
Dave211 said:
Why stuff in an engine of unknown internals. A new crank with rods pistons and bearings with all the associated seals/gaskets is about £1500.
It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
This engine at the very least needs 1 new liner, possibly more. It most likely needs a new head, too.It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
jamesson said:
skwdenyer said:
Dave211 said:
Why stuff in an engine of unknown internals. A new crank with rods pistons and bearings with all the associated seals/gaskets is about £1500.
It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
This engine at the very least needs 1 new liner, possibly more. It most likely needs a new head, too.It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
Today has taken the wind out of my sails.
The advert for the engine I'd seen was a picture of a nice shiny engine, clearly low mileage. I'd been sent a video of it running.
I wasn't going to give a deposit or anything in case I got ripped off. I can't get any time off work at short notice so I'd organised for someone local who I use all the time to go grab it for me. I'd asked him to send me some pictures when he got there. He sent me these. It looked alright but I had my boss moaning about me being distracted, the seller asking me for payment and the driver messaging me all at the same time. I didn't look at these as closely as I should have and didn't compare it to the advert photos. It looks decent.
We got it unloaded at my end, this was a total nightmare. My garage has a steep slope. I need the engine in the back of the garage but I have 2 other engines in the way and the car in the way. The plan was to connect the battery, release the handbrake, roll the car out on the winch, put the handbrake on then use the winch to drag the engine in on a skate. That plan got scuppered, the Jaguar went into melt down with all the control units not connected and it wouldn't let me release the handbrake or steering lock. Plan B was to put the rear wheels on skates, slide the car as far over as possible and see if we could squeeze the engine through the gap between the car and the door. The wheel on the skate broke which wasn't ideal but it was far enough over at that point. That worked just about, we had my engine crane holding the engine and we had to use the winch to drag crane in.
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The engine was in but I had other stuff in the way, which had to be put anywhere we could. It's total carnage. I was glad the guy who collected it helped me do all this, I would have been bang in trouble on my own.
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Once the engine is in I had a look at it and the penny dropped. It's a Jaguar XE engine, 2015 vintage. No front diff, different sump, different gearbox (less valuable).
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I could make it work by putting my sump on, and swapping over any other parts needed. I'm worried they'll be lots of small differences which become a pain in the arse. It's also an unknown quantity, I don't think I've got the appetite to take a chance on it in the long term as an ownership proposition.
The seller is making out it's an honest error and says he has the correct engine. He's said I can go back and swap it (it cost me £300 to get it collected today). If I hire a van and go on Friday it'd probably cost me about £150 but it's hassle to load and unload it, especially on my own.
There were more than a few red flags with the seller so I think this is a blag anyway. they've probably done it on purpose. Apparently he'll do video call tomorrow showing me the right engine. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now but if they've done me over, I'll go into a bit more depth on it, it's quite interesting and seems dodgy. This thread could go off on a crime thriller tangent.
But to sum it all up, I've been working my balls off the last few days and I'm thoroughly deflated now. I'm just sick of constant drama, everything seems to be a struggle lately.
The advert for the engine I'd seen was a picture of a nice shiny engine, clearly low mileage. I'd been sent a video of it running.
I wasn't going to give a deposit or anything in case I got ripped off. I can't get any time off work at short notice so I'd organised for someone local who I use all the time to go grab it for me. I'd asked him to send me some pictures when he got there. He sent me these. It looked alright but I had my boss moaning about me being distracted, the seller asking me for payment and the driver messaging me all at the same time. I didn't look at these as closely as I should have and didn't compare it to the advert photos. It looks decent.
We got it unloaded at my end, this was a total nightmare. My garage has a steep slope. I need the engine in the back of the garage but I have 2 other engines in the way and the car in the way. The plan was to connect the battery, release the handbrake, roll the car out on the winch, put the handbrake on then use the winch to drag the engine in on a skate. That plan got scuppered, the Jaguar went into melt down with all the control units not connected and it wouldn't let me release the handbrake or steering lock. Plan B was to put the rear wheels on skates, slide the car as far over as possible and see if we could squeeze the engine through the gap between the car and the door. The wheel on the skate broke which wasn't ideal but it was far enough over at that point. That worked just about, we had my engine crane holding the engine and we had to use the winch to drag crane in.
IMG_20240423_233230771The engine was in but I had other stuff in the way, which had to be put anywhere we could. It's total carnage. I was glad the guy who collected it helped me do all this, I would have been bang in trouble on my own.
IMG_20240423_160833255_HDROnce the engine is in I had a look at it and the penny dropped. It's a Jaguar XE engine, 2015 vintage. No front diff, different sump, different gearbox (less valuable).
IMG_20240423_160827504IMG_20240423_160844680I could make it work by putting my sump on, and swapping over any other parts needed. I'm worried they'll be lots of small differences which become a pain in the arse. It's also an unknown quantity, I don't think I've got the appetite to take a chance on it in the long term as an ownership proposition.
The seller is making out it's an honest error and says he has the correct engine. He's said I can go back and swap it (it cost me £300 to get it collected today). If I hire a van and go on Friday it'd probably cost me about £150 but it's hassle to load and unload it, especially on my own.
There were more than a few red flags with the seller so I think this is a blag anyway. they've probably done it on purpose. Apparently he'll do video call tomorrow showing me the right engine. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now but if they've done me over, I'll go into a bit more depth on it, it's quite interesting and seems dodgy. This thread could go off on a crime thriller tangent.
But to sum it all up, I've been working my balls off the last few days and I'm thoroughly deflated now. I'm just sick of constant drama, everything seems to be a struggle lately.
Dammit. Whoever said rollercoaster in the last few posts was spot on. And I thought it was soon going to be "happily ever after". I really REALLY **REALLY** fuc king HATE scammers and I'm REALLY hoping this is the honest mistake the seller claims it is. If it genuinely was his mistake and he had an ounce of honour, he would bring you the other engine and take away the wrong one. At HIS expense. Sadly I've lost my faith in humanity as a whole a long time ago and I very much doubt he will come through for you. Shame.
Gas1883 said:
This is why I got rid of my original focus , I just couldn’t see light at the end of the tunnel so cut it loose .
But I really do admire you’re perseverance ecssy , hopefully it works out one way or the other for you
Others have said it, and people have criticised it but I do think getting rid is the best option here, I hate to bring it up but just in parts I believe you’re past the cost of a runner (not much help I know) and then there’s all the added stress and work (I know you’ve said it’s your hobby) but at what point do you continue to spend money on something? But I really do admire you’re perseverance ecssy , hopefully it works out one way or the other for you
How long does the “me and the wife like it” last?
However thank you for sharing all of this and like others have said, I hope this run of s
t ends soon. gf15 said:
Looking forward to another roller coaster ride for the next 93 pages.
OP, I believe your plan is the best plan.
We have 2 JLR cars, a 2012 evoque and a 2015 v6 F-type, which we have owned for 5 years and 4 years respectively. We have only had one issue. It was a Hadlex pump on the evoque. It’s an Audi part.
Good luck OP, you are overdue a break.
It's probably a Haldex part, rather than an Audi part.OP, I believe your plan is the best plan.
We have 2 JLR cars, a 2012 evoque and a 2015 v6 F-type, which we have owned for 5 years and 4 years respectively. We have only had one issue. It was a Hadlex pump on the evoque. It’s an Audi part.
Good luck OP, you are overdue a break.
A.J.M said:
paradigital said:
Dave211 said:
Why stuff in an engine of unknown internals. A new crank with rods pistons and bearings with all the associated seals/gaskets is about £1500.
It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
Have you read the rest of the thread?It’s a simple enough motor to rebuild.
The engine has already been rebuilt a few times…
Edited by A.J.M on Tuesday 23 April 19:52
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