1970 Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 TI
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I thought I would share a little more info on the spec of the car and the history of this car in particular.
It’s a 1970 1300 TI, it’ll the TI stands for "Turismo Internazionale" a class of Italian saloon car racing. The car features a much sportier engine than the previous 101 series giulietta model. The 84hp 1.3 twin cam engine was lifted from the 105 series 1300 GT junior coupe, and the car also featured a number of sportier improvements born from the very limited homologation special the Giulia TI Super, like disc brakes at all four corners, 5 speed gearbox with floor mounted shifter and a new dash layout. Earlier giuliettas had drum brakes all round and a column shifting 4 speed. So this car really was the original 4 door sports saloon! The M5 of its day!
On to this car in particular, it does have a little bit of a story attached to it. It was imported to the UK from Italy in 2010 by Bill McGrath a Maserati dealer here in Hertfordshire, and was part of his personal collection for a number of years. Whilst in his collection it was used by Alfa Romeo UK for promotional campaigns including the launch of the new Giulia in 2015.
In terms of the spec, the paint colour is Biancospino with a grey cloth interior (which is growing on me somewhat) and a hellebore steering wheel, which was an in period optional extra, I think it is fantastic looking, and feels great to use.
My first order of business this morning was to remove the exterior decals on the car. The TI SUPER style quadrifoglio decals on the wings were fitted by Alfa Romeo UK when they used the car for a press launch, although I don’t mind the look, they used the same decal on both sides rather than a pair of mirrored decals. So the quadrifoglio on the left side faces the wrong way, which bugged me! So I will be going with the clean look for now. But who knows, they might make a return.
And the first picture with its stablemate!
It’s a 1970 1300 TI, it’ll the TI stands for "Turismo Internazionale" a class of Italian saloon car racing. The car features a much sportier engine than the previous 101 series giulietta model. The 84hp 1.3 twin cam engine was lifted from the 105 series 1300 GT junior coupe, and the car also featured a number of sportier improvements born from the very limited homologation special the Giulia TI Super, like disc brakes at all four corners, 5 speed gearbox with floor mounted shifter and a new dash layout. Earlier giuliettas had drum brakes all round and a column shifting 4 speed. So this car really was the original 4 door sports saloon! The M5 of its day!
On to this car in particular, it does have a little bit of a story attached to it. It was imported to the UK from Italy in 2010 by Bill McGrath a Maserati dealer here in Hertfordshire, and was part of his personal collection for a number of years. Whilst in his collection it was used by Alfa Romeo UK for promotional campaigns including the launch of the new Giulia in 2015.
In terms of the spec, the paint colour is Biancospino with a grey cloth interior (which is growing on me somewhat) and a hellebore steering wheel, which was an in period optional extra, I think it is fantastic looking, and feels great to use.
My first order of business this morning was to remove the exterior decals on the car. The TI SUPER style quadrifoglio decals on the wings were fitted by Alfa Romeo UK when they used the car for a press launch, although I don’t mind the look, they used the same decal on both sides rather than a pair of mirrored decals. So the quadrifoglio on the left side faces the wrong way, which bugged me! So I will be going with the clean look for now. But who knows, they might make a return.
And the first picture with its stablemate!
Edited by MTW on Thursday 8th June 09:04
The Dictator said:
Clearly a man of impeccable taste :-) My 214270 (blackout) is 10 years old and still gets worn almost every day. I had acquired the taste for classics a bit earlier than you, having now had my 1981 Mercedes 500 SEL for 9 years.
I look forward to seeing your progress on the latest addition, I have enjoyed your other threads to date ??
Thanks you! Ah nice, yes they are a fantastic watch for every day arnt they. I don’t think you can beat it. I do love the old 500 SEL they are a lovely thing!I look forward to seeing your progress on the latest addition, I have enjoyed your other threads to date ??
AlfaCool said:
She's a stunner. Well done Sir, i look forward to future updates.
Thanks!Jhonno said:
Very very cool! Love it.
Cheers mate!Om said:
That is an absolute gem. Alfas (and Lancias) of that era are rather special. Even the seemingly 'mundane' ones. I look forward to hearing more about it.
Thanks! Yes they are great arnt they. When I look at the car there are so many strange little design choices that make the car so special. Cambs_Stuart said:
What a fantastic car. Love everything about this. The interior, the engine, and it's so pretty. Brilliant purchase.
Thanks, much appreciated!Om said:
That is an absolute gem. Alfas (and Lancias) of that era are rather special. Even the seemingly 'mundane' ones. I look forward to hearing more about it.
This, lovely car OP! Always remind me of the police in The Italian Job seeing this shape of Giulia 
Alfa were putting out some really great cars in this era IMO, I mean no other saloon of the same dimensions/engine size had a 5 speed gearbox iirc (R8 Gordini and 1 of 200 BMW 1800 Ti/SAs excepted) teamed with disc brakes and a twin overhead cam engine, properly great-driving cars for the age.
A brilliant choice!
I bought a 1972 1600cc Super in late 1999 to have a go at historic rallying in, I paid about £800 for it back then which seems ridiculous now. I did the PH thing and got a lift from home near Bath up to Preston one grey December day to collect it. Two discoveries made for me. The heater didn't work and the fuel tank had gone porous. That was a long, very cold and very smelly trip back but it made the trip without fuss and both easily sorted. Mine used to have an appetite for master cylinders (under the floor) but it never let me down and to hear that engine giving it the beans was always a joy. At the time, a Harvey-Bailey anti roll bar for the front was a must have and a LSD off a GTV stopped a lot of wheel spin. Unforunately mine lost a battle with a large piece of granite in Wales and was no more.
Sadly missed but best of luck to you with yours.
I bought a 1972 1600cc Super in late 1999 to have a go at historic rallying in, I paid about £800 for it back then which seems ridiculous now. I did the PH thing and got a lift from home near Bath up to Preston one grey December day to collect it. Two discoveries made for me. The heater didn't work and the fuel tank had gone porous. That was a long, very cold and very smelly trip back but it made the trip without fuss and both easily sorted. Mine used to have an appetite for master cylinders (under the floor) but it never let me down and to hear that engine giving it the beans was always a joy. At the time, a Harvey-Bailey anti roll bar for the front was a must have and a LSD off a GTV stopped a lot of wheel spin. Unforunately mine lost a battle with a large piece of granite in Wales and was no more.
Sadly missed but best of luck to you with yours.
You may already know this, but the Goodwood calendar says it's "Classic Alfa" on Saturday and this looks like it'd be an absolute stunner there - sorry I don't know anymore details it's just my local circuit that I'll probably pop into on Saturday, so tend to look at what's on 
If I see this I'll say hi (I'll have hidden the M2c away from the Alfas haha)
If I see this I'll say hi (I'll have hidden the M2c away from the Alfas haha)
bumskins said:
This, lovely car OP! Always remind me of the police in The Italian Job seeing this shape of Giulia
Alfa were putting out some really great cars in this era IMO, I mean no other saloon of the same dimensions/engine size had a 5 speed gearbox iirc (R8 Gordini and 1 of 200 BMW 1800 Ti/SAs excepted) teamed with disc brakes and a twin overhead cam engine, properly great-driving cars for the age.
Yea they are really cool arnt they, really underrated it seems doesn’t it. They are quite special things when you look at them compared to other stuff of the era like the 2002 etc.Alfa were putting out some really great cars in this era IMO, I mean no other saloon of the same dimensions/engine size had a 5 speed gearbox iirc (R8 Gordini and 1 of 200 BMW 1800 Ti/SAs excepted) teamed with disc brakes and a twin overhead cam engine, properly great-driving cars for the age.
Fusion777 said:
I like this 
84hp from a 1.3 in 1970 sounds very decent.
Yea!84hp from a 1.3 in 1970 sounds very decent.
waynedear said:
You Sir are a star, that is my dream car and in my opinion the most gorgeous saloon.
Ah cheers dude!LFB531 said:
A brilliant choice!
I bought a 1972 1600cc Super in late 1999 to have a go at historic rallying in, I paid about £800 for it back then which seems ridiculous now. I did the PH thing and got a lift from home near Bath up to Preston one grey December day to collect it. Two discoveries made for me. The heater didn't work and the fuel tank had gone porous. That was a long, very cold and very smelly trip back but it made the trip without fuss and both easily sorted. Mine used to have an appetite for master cylinders (under the floor) but it never let me down and to hear that engine giving it the beans was always a joy. At the time, a Harvey-Bailey anti roll bar for the front was a must have and a LSD off a GTV stopped a lot of wheel spin. Unforunately mine lost a battle with a large piece of granite in Wales and was no more.
Sadly missed but best of luck to you with yours.
Thanks, Ah sounds awesome! Yes I have just ordered a few suspension bits for it this morning. I will have a look at the diff! That’s one thing I was wondering about. Although I don’t think I will ever be at a power level to warrent it!I bought a 1972 1600cc Super in late 1999 to have a go at historic rallying in, I paid about £800 for it back then which seems ridiculous now. I did the PH thing and got a lift from home near Bath up to Preston one grey December day to collect it. Two discoveries made for me. The heater didn't work and the fuel tank had gone porous. That was a long, very cold and very smelly trip back but it made the trip without fuss and both easily sorted. Mine used to have an appetite for master cylinders (under the floor) but it never let me down and to hear that engine giving it the beans was always a joy. At the time, a Harvey-Bailey anti roll bar for the front was a must have and a LSD off a GTV stopped a lot of wheel spin. Unforunately mine lost a battle with a large piece of granite in Wales and was no more.
Sadly missed but best of luck to you with yours.
PR350 said:
You may already know this, but the Goodwood calendar says it's "Classic Alfa" on Saturday and this looks like it'd be an absolute stunner there - sorry I don't know anymore details it's just my local circuit that I'll probably pop into on Saturday, so tend to look at what's on
If I see this I'll say hi (I'll have hidden the M2c away from the Alfas haha)
Ah no I didn’t see that! I will see if I can head down for a bit!If I see this I'll say hi (I'll have hidden the M2c away from the Alfas haha)
PR350 said:
You may already know this, but the Goodwood calendar says it's "Classic Alfa" on Saturday and this looks like it'd be an absolute stunner there - sorry I don't know anymore details it's just my local circuit that I'll probably pop into on Saturday, so tend to look at what's on
If I see this I'll say hi (I'll have hidden the M2c away from the Alfas haha)
If it's what I think it is, Classic Alfa is a London specialist and they organise a track day at Goodwood every year for classic Alfas. It's well worth visiting for both the sounds and the sights. My profile pic is from one of their days. If I see this I'll say hi (I'll have hidden the M2c away from the Alfas haha)
rossybee said:
Great to hear the story in more detail Max
I did almost the opposite, buying my Giulia Super from Norfolk, but due to being during lockdown it got delivered to Carlisle and I drove back to Dundee!
Glad Euan looked after you - cracking guy, he's been my MOT man for almost 30yrs!!!
Ah yes the ones you want always seem to be the ones at the other end of the country. I’m pretty sure I could have bought a car in Austria and it would have technically been closer ha ha. Yes Euan was great, had some lovely bits kicking around the garage too!I did almost the opposite, buying my Giulia Super from Norfolk, but due to being during lockdown it got delivered to Carlisle and I drove back to Dundee!
Glad Euan looked after you - cracking guy, he's been my MOT man for almost 30yrs!!!
rossybee said:
Oh and I've been pondering getting another Caterham or S1 Elise, your pics have me leaning towards a 7 to share garage space with the Alfa!
They are a great choice! I don’t think I could be without one now!
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