1970 Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 TI

[ChevronB19]

Love it, my dream classic (or at least achievable dream classic) garage includes this and an NSU 1000TTS (my dad had 5 of the latter at the same time, although I think 2 were TT’s). Still got most of the stuff in a garage to change a TT to a TTS.

I’ll have a fulvia HF as well please!

[sinbaddio]

This is next level!

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The Dictator said:

Cheers, it was featured on Mike Brewers website and socials last year after I had an interview with a journalist.

Ah lovely! Your username makes complete sense! Ha ha

ChevronB19 said:

Love it, my dream classic (or at least achievable dream classic) garage includes this and an NSU 1000TTS (my dad had 5 of the latter at the same time, although I think 2 were TT’s). Still got most of the stuff in a garage to change a TT to a TTS.

I’ll have a fulvia HF as well please!

Thanks! Ah yes those are some nice choices! I’m a big fan of the Zagato Fulvia also, really cool things!

sinbaddio said:

This is next level!

Thanks!

[Pooh]

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StescoG66 said:

CP Garage Services Dundee. Euan Colbron? If so, he has a great rep and is one of the main AROC guys up here.

Yes that’s where I picked it up from, he sorted the MOT and got the car ready for sale on Behalf of the seller. Yes he seemed a great chap who really knew his stuff!

Gret choice of car, it looks ace and will have been well looked after if Euan has had anything to do with it, he has looked after all my Fiats, Alfas and my Maserati over the last 25 years and really knows his stuff

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Pooh said:

Gret choice of car, it looks ace and will have been well looked after if Euan has had anything to do with it, he has looked after all my Fiats, Alfas and my Maserati over the last 25 years and really knows his stuff

Thanks! Ah great to hear!

[Joehow]

As you know I absolutely love this dude

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Joehow said:

As you know I absolutely love this dude

Thanks mate!

[Fessia fancier]

bumskins said:

This, lovely car OP! Always remind me of the police in The Italian Job seeing this shape of Giulia

Alfa were putting out some really great cars in this era IMO, I mean no other saloon of the same dimensions/engine size had a 5 speed gearbox iirc (R8 Gordini and 1 of 200 BMW 1800 Ti/SAs excepted) teamed with disc brakes and a twin overhead cam engine, properly great-driving cars for the age.

Probably a Fulvia S 2 saloon also qualified
Lovely car OP

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Fessia fancier said:

Probably a Fulvia S 2 saloon also qualified
Lovely car OP

Thanks!

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Quick run out this morning to the butchers to pick up some BBQ fodder, I love the fact I can just jump in this car and drive it. As much as I adore the Caterham, it’s very much an ordeal to go out in it. It’s great I can just whip the cover off this car and drive it, I intend to do so as much as possible as I do know these cars are not best left sitting for too long.

Also I mentioned to my neighbour, who is also a classic car guy, that I was slightly surprised how “boat like” the car felt for a car renowned for its handling. He suggested tyre pressures! I can’t believe I didn’t think of something so simple. The car had 24psi all round, I pumped them up to around 30psi all round and the difference is huge! The car feels much much better for it.

[el romeral]

What a great looking car in fabulous condition. Agree with the other comments on impressive power output for the time. I remember back in the day thinking my mum’s 1979 1.3 Fiesta sport output of 66 bhp was going some!
I am a bit of a gambler with buying cars unseen etc and making long trips too. Great when it all pays off.
Something I just noticed from the pictures - no wing mirrors? I know this fits in with the first rule of Italian driving but how is it in reality, especially being left hand drive?

[Spinakerr]

Lovely car, the design is 'just right' and this looks to be a really good example. More fun at 50mph than most other cars - enjoy!

PS. My wife rarely comments on cars on PH threads, but this one received a compliment on looks, chrome and the white 'elucidating the designer's intent'.

[Slowboathome]

It's a lovely lovely thing.

And, bonus!, it's such a sensible car for 90% of what you need to have a car for. I think it's great.

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el romeral said:

What a great looking car in fabulous condition. Agree with the other comments on impressive power output for the time. I remember back in the day thinking my mum’s 1979 1.3 Fiesta sport output of 66 bhp was going some!
I am a bit of a gambler with buying cars unseen etc and making long trips too. Great when it all pays off.
Something I just noticed from the pictures - no wing mirrors? I know this fits in with the first rule of Italian driving but how is it in reality, especially being left hand drive?

Thanks! Yes I’m always all Heart and zero head when it comes to buying cars!

No wing mirrors isn’t actually that bad, you can see a lot through the rear view because of the thin B and C pillars. That being said I did put my neck out constantly turning my head on the drive back from Scotland! But I do have a small round chrome wing mirror to fit to the drivers side, when I have time to fit it.

Spinakerr said:

Lovely car, the design is 'just right' and this looks to be a really good example. More fun at 50mph than most other cars - enjoy!

PS. My wife rarely comments on cars on PH threads, but this one received a compliment on looks, chrome and the white 'elucidating the designer's intent'.

Ah thanks! Very much appreciated! Yes the design really is great. All the little design touches are amazing. I have just noticed the angle of the rear bumper edges follow perfectly with the swage line of the bodywork, so many cool little flairs of design all over the place.

Funnily enough my original plan with the car was to go full hot rod, I thought it might be a bit of a ratty one. So my plan was to take the bumpers off etc. But as it’s in such great condition my plan now is to keep it very OEM looking with some nice touches.

Slowboathome said:

It's a lovely lovely thing.

And, bonus!, it's such a sensible car for 90% of what you need to have a car for. I think it's great.

Thanks! Yes it’s really fantastic, plenty of room in the interior and the boot is huge. The only thing I do want to do is fit rear seatbelts so I can have the kids in the back.

[Spinakerr]

Great stuff - I'm firmly in the 'bumpers on' for classic cars in general - the chrome and the whole shape was usually taken into account by the original team, unless its something truly hideous like the US-spec rubber blorpings on some cars. De-bumpering Alfas of this period is common, especially for racing, but two gaping holes and the ability to be truly destroyed by the next SUV driver that fails to pay attention... not favourable!

I fitted some Securon belts to our 1973 Saab 99 recently and they went in perfectly, tick all standards and look pretty much perfect. There are options for rear lap belts too - might be worth reneweing the fronts if the are ages old too. Good luck pulling out the carpet a bit to uncover what holes are already present - sometimes you can be extremely lucky in waht was drilled and tapped 'in period', but waxoiled over if someone didn't order them or want to spend 24.5 lire extra.

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Spinakerr said:

Great stuff - I'm firmly in the 'bumpers on' for classic cars in general - the chrome and the whole shape was usually taken into account by the original team, unless its something truly hideous like the US-spec rubber blorpings on some cars. De-bumpering Alfas of this period is common, especially for racing, but two gaping holes and the ability to be truly destroyed by the next SUV driver that fails to pay attention... not favourable!

I fitted some Securon belts to our 1973 Saab 99 recently and they went in perfectly, tick all standards and look pretty much perfect. There are options for rear lap belts too - might be worth reneweing the fronts if the are ages old too. Good luck pulling out the carpet a bit to uncover what holes are already present - sometimes you can be extremely lucky in waht was drilled and tapped 'in period', but waxoiled over if someone didn't order them or want to spend 24.5 lire extra.

Yes agree’d I do like to old school racing look, but to do it to a very tidy car would be a shame I think.

Yes I’m planning on re doing the whole interior at some point so I will tackle the belts at the same time. Although there is no carpet it has rubber matting instead with some thick insulation under it. Not looking forward to ripping that out, but yes hopefully there might be some mounts under there, I know some cars do, but it seems like pot luck.

[velocemitch]

Great story and lovely example of superb car.
On the Tyre pressure thing, the Coupe’s and I expect the saloon benefit from softening the rears. I think you are about right with 30 at the front, but try lowering the rears a bit. I run my 2000GTV at 29 front, 26 rear. Get the fronts too soft and it feels too heavy and not willing to turn.
An LSD is a good option, but you would probably need a bit more power to make good use of it.

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velocemitch said:

Great story and lovely example of superb car.
On the Tyre pressure thing, the Coupe’s and I expect the saloon benefit from softening the rears. I think you are about right with 30 at the front, but try lowering the rears a bit. I run my 2000GTV at 29 front, 26 rear. Get the fronts too soft and it feels too heavy and not willing to turn.
An LSD is a good option, but you would probably need a bit more power to make good use of it.

Thanks! And cheers for the advice. Yes the car felt very wallowy and heavy with 25psi all round! I did read it’s better to have the softer rear so I think I have 32psi front and 29psi rear at the moment. But I have a new set of wheels arriving today so might try a little lower once I have driven it a bit more. Yes I like the idea of and LSD but yea maybe in the future, I’m pretty sure I want to stick with the 1300 and tune that up a little bit at some point.

[bumskins]

I think this thread has the most universally-positive comments of which I can recall, looking forward to seeing more pictures once you have the new wheels fitted OP

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bumskins said:

I think this thread has the most universally-positive comments of which I can recall, looking forward to seeing more pictures once you have the new wheels fitted OP

Thanks! Yes looking forward to getting all the bits fitted!