Toyota MR2

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C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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MR2 Steve said:
Can anyone think of a 4 seat convertible with similar driving characteristics to an MR2 Roadster? Occasional rear seat usage only.
Mid-engined, lightweight, RWD, 4-seat convertibles are a pretty rare thing, so I suspect probably not.

Depending on how tall the 'occasional' users of those seats are, you've got a few proxy options open to you. The 911 is probably the closest thing you'll get to a 4-seat, RWD 'sports car' without the engine up front - but you don't have many options for bodyshapes in those rear seats.

TameRacingDriver

18,117 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Good shout, I keep forgetting they're 4 seaters. Although probably more suitable for amputees.

Om

1,809 posts

79 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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MR2 Steve said:
Can anyone think of a 4 seat convertible with similar driving characteristics to an MR2 Roadster? Occasional rear seat usage only.
Ferrari Mondial? Though I don't think that will feel like an MR2 to be honest!

TheJimi

25,039 posts

244 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Doesn't fit the RWD or mid engined criteria, but a MINI Cooper S cab would be decent drive.

Luke.

11,019 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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C70R said:
MR2 Steve said:
Can anyone think of a 4 seat convertible with similar driving characteristics to an MR2 Roadster? Occasional rear seat usage only.
Mid-engined, lightweight, RWD, 4-seat convertibles are a pretty rare thing, so I suspect probably not.

Depending on how tall the 'occasional' users of those seats are, you've got a few proxy options open to you. The 911 is probably the closest thing you'll get to a 4-seat, RWD 'sports car' without the engine up front - but you don't have many options for bodyshapes in those rear seats.
Evora? Though obvs a little pricier...

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Luke. said:
C70R said:
MR2 Steve said:
Can anyone think of a 4 seat convertible with similar driving characteristics to an MR2 Roadster? Occasional rear seat usage only.
Mid-engined, lightweight, RWD, 4-seat convertibles are a pretty rare thing, so I suspect probably not.

Depending on how tall the 'occasional' users of those seats are, you've got a few proxy options open to you. The 911 is probably the closest thing you'll get to a 4-seat, RWD 'sports car' without the engine up front - but you don't have many options for bodyshapes in those rear seats.
Evora? Though obvs a little pricier...
And missing the crucial "convertible" bit.

MR2 Steve

312 posts

108 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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TheJimi said:
911 Cab?
Yes only one I can think out that isn't front engined.

craigjm

17,996 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Mondial and 911 are the only options coming anywhere close. Four seater and mid engine doesn’t go together well for obvious reasons

TheJimi

25,039 posts

244 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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craigjm said:
Mondial and 911 are the only options coming anywhere close. Four seater and mid engine doesn’t go together well for obvious reasons
In terms of driving experience, I'm not convinced the Mondial is close at all.

911 Cab sits in it's own niche from that perspective.

MR2 Steve

312 posts

108 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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craigjm said:
Mondial and 911 are the only options coming anywhere close. Four seater and mid engine doesn’t go together well for obvious reasons
Doesn’t have to be mid engined. Just a decent handling car.

Sorry OP for the off topic.

Shifter1

1,079 posts

92 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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markiii said:
Drive an rx8 it will surprise you. It's definitely a sportscar
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Done many times. wink Not a sports car. Not conceptually, nor technically. But it does have some sports car characteristics, which is my point about it possibly diminishing the event of a MR2 as a weekend car.

Shifter1

1,079 posts

92 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
Shifter1 said:
OP, what do you daily? Sorry if you already mentioned.

Talking to a MR2 roadster mate who is bored of his daily, and thinking about replacing it with a RX8. I'm not sure about that. From one side, RX8 is a little "complicted" for a daily. I'm not sure I would want to deal with a wankel for a daily, at this point. From another, if you drive a RX8 daily, would you still want to jump in a sports car for a weekend drive? Sure the MR2 is a convertible. But as far as driving fun, the RX8 is probably closer than most dailies. Certainly closer than his daily. Might take a bit of the edge off the MR2, specially that he doesn't trash his MR2.

Don't get me wrong, the RX8 is not a true sports car and definitely not a match for the MR2. Totally different set up as well, with rear mid engine vs FE RWD. Totally different feeling. But RX8 is still as close as any 4-doors has the right to be. It's a long wheelbase MX5 NC. The other way around, I know. Plus, wankel on a daily basis? Take a special type of person I guess.

What do you daily? Or any of you MR2 gentlemen posting on the thread. smile
Daily is an Outander for the family and an Audi A2, if I can prize my wife's iron grip from the keys. (She loves that car, and I am a big fan as well)
Alright. That is very far apart from a MR2. No overlapping, which is the ideal situation between a daily and a weekend car IMO. smile

I think the RX8 overlaps and knowing how he drivers his MR2, I told him if he buys a RX8 as a daily, I think he will probably sell the MR2, because he will decide he doesn't need it, or to buy something faster. Unless he totally hates the RX8 or finds it too unreliable. This is my take. But I might be wrong.

moorx

3,550 posts

115 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Not a gentleman (wrong gender) but the MR2 is my daily, alongside a Celica of the same year.

OH has a Mazda5 and a Suzuki Grand Vitara.

TameRacingDriver

18,117 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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moorx said:
Not a gentleman (wrong gender) but the MR2 is my daily, alongside a Celica of the same year.
Always thought that would be a decent little two car fleet, hopefully the Celica is the 190? smile

markiii

3,641 posts

195 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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MR2 Steve said:
Can anyone think of a 4 seat convertible with similar driving characteristics to an MR2 Roadster? Occasional rear seat usage only.
Ferrari mondial

moorx

3,550 posts

115 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
moorx said:
Not a gentleman (wrong gender) but the MR2 is my daily, alongside a Celica of the same year.
Always thought that would be a decent little two car fleet, hopefully the Celica is the 190? smile
Nope, 140, but it's served me well for the last 10 years!

Shifter1

1,079 posts

92 months

Friday 21st July 2023
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moorx said:
Not a gentleman (wrong gender) but the MR2 is my daily, alongside a Celica of the same year.
Nice combo to have. smile

QuantumTokoloshi

Original Poster:

4,166 posts

218 months

Saturday 22nd July 2023
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Shifter1 said:
Alright. That is very far apart from a MR2. No overlapping, which is the ideal situation between a daily and a weekend car IMO. smile

I think the RX8 overlaps and knowing how he drivers his MR2, I told him if he buys a RX8 as a daily, I think he will probably sell the MR2, because he will decide he doesn't need it, or to buy something faster. Unless he totally hates the RX8 or finds it too unreliable. This is my take. But I might be wrong.
Also have a SEAT Cupra R Mk1, that I have had for almost 20 years, standard besides a map, with less than 70K on it, which I use sparingly for my hot hatch fix.

QuantumTokoloshi

Original Poster:

4,166 posts

218 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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Got the precats removed, looked to be in decent condition, with no evidence of break up, good news.

I was going to put in a new exhaust system, but as the existing original system is fine, I'll wait until it is needed, and put it a full system, sports cat etc.

Mechanicals are more or less sorted, might look for a front strut brace and body brace, but first get the outstanding cosmetic issues sorted, with some paint correction.

QuantumTokoloshi

Original Poster:

4,166 posts

218 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Month or two under the belt, and a few impressions.

Great fun, crazy value, fast enough to be fun, small enough to use on small rural roads, ride is ideal to handle potholed rutted roads. The 1ZZ engine is given a bad rep, not a k-series Honda, but revs cleanly, VVTI and suits the car, especially since the pre cat has been removed, definitely revs better. Yes it is a Avensis econobox engine, but 7200 redline means it works in the MR2. It feels quicker than the 140 BHP would suggest.

A pleasant car to drive in town, small, nippy, light controls, easy to park etc. There is enough space for two for a few days, few bags etc. You can absolutely feel the mid-engine pivot when pushing on, brilliant fun to feel the weight pivot as you load up the rear wheels. I am struggling a little with the seats, I prefer a wheel style seat back adjuster rather than a lever, just cannot seem to get the angle right, likewise the steering wheel adjustment, while it is height adjustable, just missing the ability to adjust how close it is to you, as I prefer it a little closer.

Being so low, means you get the LED inflicted retina cauterizing SUVs lights when driving at night, both from the front or the back, Self dimming rear mirror is going to be a key update. It also makes trying to find the car in parking lots difficult, parked next to a new Range Rover, you have to be right on top of it before you see it.

Got my replacement hood booked from the well known trimmer in Swansea, quality of his work is great, and 1/3 of the price popular in MX5 MR2 owners clubs, 6 month lead time ! I also had the tracking done, made a real difference to the feel, much more planted. So far so good.

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Friday 15th September 21:16