2013 Ferrari FF
Discussion
Fonzey said:
Love it, well done OP, great purchase and book marked.
Regarding the handling, I had a “nosey” at the MOT history and saw an advisory in March MOT for a distorted wheel, you most likely picked up on that but could that also be affecting the handling along with tyre type.
Nearside Front Road wheel slightly distorted (5.2.2 (c) (i))
Probably not and pointless as you mention it seems the rear but thought I would just mention…..enjoy and all the best in your Ferrari ownership.
Regarding the handling, I had a “nosey” at the MOT history and saw an advisory in March MOT for a distorted wheel, you most likely picked up on that but could that also be affecting the handling along with tyre type.
Nearside Front Road wheel slightly distorted (5.2.2 (c) (i))
Probably not and pointless as you mention it seems the rear but thought I would just mention…..enjoy and all the best in your Ferrari ownership.
wolfracesonic said:
This could be your moment OP; We often see on here GT3 owners organising road trips to the ‘ring or Muira owners making the pilgrimage to their cars spiritual home, Sant’Agata, via some stunning alpine scenery. Well, why not a PH FF/Lusso owners meet at some municipal dump it site in the Midlands, you all arrive with cars dragging on their arses due to weight of crap in the back, rear hatches sketchily held shut with bungee cords, as they won’t close because of the 12ft long dead Christmas sticking out. It could be a thing I tell you!
I think you may have found my calling! Unfortunately all the tips round here' expect you to show proof of address now to make sure you're not dumping on another council so this may take some work to organise. I'll see what I can do.tighnamara said:
Love it, well done OP, great purchase and book marked.
Regarding the handling, I had a “nosey” at the MOT history and saw an advisory in March MOT for a distorted wheel, you most likely picked up on that but could that also be affecting the handling along with tyre type.
Nearside Front Road wheel slightly distorted (5.2.2 (c) (i))
Probably not and pointless as you mention it seems the rear but thought I would just mention…..enjoy and all the best in your Ferrari ownership.
Aye good spot and it was/is on the radar. You're jumping ahead an episode or two by calling that out, but I'll come back to it soon!Regarding the handling, I had a “nosey” at the MOT history and saw an advisory in March MOT for a distorted wheel, you most likely picked up on that but could that also be affecting the handling along with tyre type.
Nearside Front Road wheel slightly distorted (5.2.2 (c) (i))
Probably not and pointless as you mention it seems the rear but thought I would just mention…..enjoy and all the best in your Ferrari ownership.
Brilliant thread OP and don’t take this the wrong way but I’m interested into in your auction experience.
It sounds like you’d sussed a way to bid on something but cancel your card so even if you did win you might not get charged unless you actually wanted to go through with it-how does that work?
A few of us had suspected this sort of thing goes on.
It sounds like you’d sussed a way to bid on something but cancel your card so even if you did win you might not get charged unless you actually wanted to go through with it-how does that work?
A few of us had suspected this sort of thing goes on.
The Dictator said:
I am bookmarking this one, I really hope it is just the tyres, which seems more and more likely as the thread unfolds.
With regard to the child seat, I would not use towels, but instead some sort of rubberised mat, as the towels on leather will be slippery and may cause the car seat to move under hard braking, or even worse case scenario an accident of some sort,
What a great selection of vehicles you have ??
This is a fair point. I had rather assumed that this vehicle had isofix so that the seat was mechanically attached to the car’s anchor point and not relying on friction. With regard to the child seat, I would not use towels, but instead some sort of rubberised mat, as the towels on leather will be slippery and may cause the car seat to move under hard braking, or even worse case scenario an accident of some sort,
What a great selection of vehicles you have ??
Pflanzgarten said:
Brilliant thread OP and don’t take this the wrong way but I’m interested into in your auction experience.
It sounds like you’d sussed a way to bid on something but cancel your card so even if you did win you might not get charged unless you actually wanted to go through with it-how does that work?
A few of us had suspected this sort of thing goes on.
No problem giving my thoughts on the auction format.It sounds like you’d sussed a way to bid on something but cancel your card so even if you did win you might not get charged unless you actually wanted to go through with it-how does that work?
A few of us had suspected this sort of thing goes on.
I found it was a brilliant way to get me excited about lots of different cars. The Ads are all presented very well, and gives some reassurance that you're buying through a system that's setup specifically for the type of car you're looking at.
Unfortunately though, after transacting it was all just a bit underwhelming from the buyers perspective.
There was no shenanigans with my card and the deposit from my side, my bank were just throwing account blocks around for fun. It seemed that around the budget I was bidding at for many cars there was a threshold in which the auction co would try to take a holding deposit (sort of like when a Hotel puts a charge on your card), and a couple of times my bank denied this meaning my bids would get rejected, and on at least one occasion it failed because I simply didn't have anything in my current account! I probably could have won two different 911's if not for this.
In both occasions the auction co were very quick to ring me to help me resolve, but it almost always happened in the pub and I just couldn't be bothered so I let it go.
As for winning the FF, they immediately tried to take the buyers fee after the auction ended and once again, my account was blocked - so it failed. They called me immediately, I explained and they agreed to send me an invoice the following day so I could BACS it, which I did.
Up to this point the auction co were very interested in me, what I was looking to buy, what my ambitions were for a 'car collection', etc etc. As soon as I paid my buyers fee, that was that - they just emailed me the seller details and cut me loose. I feel like for the ££ I spent with them, that they could do a lot more to help the buyers. Even a basic escrow service thrown into the fee for hammer prices over a certain threshold would make the whole process so much slicker, as sending these sums of money privately is always a concern to me... especially when you have a fraud squad as keen as mine!
I covered the auction description in my initial post, but I don't believe it to be particularly reflective of the car. Their terms are clearly written out to absolve them of any responsibility and that you should view a car, but with the amount of presentation effort that goes into the hundreds of photos for each listing - it's clear that they're working with the sellers to present the cars particularly generously.
Still, none of this is naughty, it's business and it seems to be working for them - but I feel short changed from the buyer side of the transaction. They didn't do anything wrong as such, but they didn't do anything right for me either. I personally won't buy a car in this format again, at least not with this company.
Austin_Metro said:
This is a fair point. I had rather assumed that this vehicle had isofix so that the seat was mechanically attached to the car’s anchor point and not relying on friction.
Yep it has isofix, but still a couple of people have sent me links to purpose made seat protectors and all of them seem cheaper than the fancy towels my missus keeps buying - so it won't hurt to buy something proper on this occasion 
Fonzey said:
Austin_Metro said:
This is a fair point. I had rather assumed that this vehicle had isofix so that the seat was mechanically attached to the car’s anchor point and not relying on friction.
Yep it has isofix, but still a couple of people have sent me links to purpose made seat protectors and all of them seem cheaper than the fancy towels my missus keeps buying - so it won't hurt to buy something proper on this occasion You do need to let her eat McDonalds in the back. There’s nothing like finding a French fry wedged under the seat … or half eaten chupa lolly…
Austin_Metro said:
Fair point.
You do need to let her eat McDonalds in the back. There’s nothing like finding a French fry wedged under the seat … or half eaten chupa lolly…
She's been in it once and I made her take her shoes off!You do need to let her eat McDonalds in the back. There’s nothing like finding a French fry wedged under the seat … or half eaten chupa lolly…
If I want to find a load of stale, sticky food I'll go in the Volvo!
One thing I probably should do in defence of the auction format is say that in many ways, it allowed the market to protect me from my own ignorance/naivety.
I was all geared up for spending a good £15-20k more on this particular car than I did. I didn't go view the car, but presumably other bidders did - and this stopped the hammer price from creeping too high.
Though I'd done some research on FFs, I was far from an expert on their values. The mileage particularly is something that I didn't expect to be so influential for what is essentially the "daily driver Ferrari".
As a result I've ended up with a car that was priced in such a way that I have head room to make improvements, enjoy the hell out of it and whenever it is time to return it back to the market, it will be categorically a better example than when I bought it for someone else to enjoy.
I was all geared up for spending a good £15-20k more on this particular car than I did. I didn't go view the car, but presumably other bidders did - and this stopped the hammer price from creeping too high.
Though I'd done some research on FFs, I was far from an expert on their values. The mileage particularly is something that I didn't expect to be so influential for what is essentially the "daily driver Ferrari".
As a result I've ended up with a car that was priced in such a way that I have head room to make improvements, enjoy the hell out of it and whenever it is time to return it back to the market, it will be categorically a better example than when I bought it for someone else to enjoy.
With a garage full of tyres and the paintshop booked, I vanished off to Spa in my Lotus for a long weekend so for the first time in a few weeks I could forget about the Ferrari and stop worrying about it!
Secretly I'd bought the FF as a backup car for Spa, all year I'd been panicking about the Lotus breaking at the most inopportune moment leaving me stranded for the headliner in my trackday calendar, so when I had all of my saved searches setup for FFs, 911s and Giulia QFs there was always one eye on getting something that could cruise around a GP circuit for a few hours too.
As it happens, it's a bloody good job the Lotus didn't break - because sending this V12 deathtrap down the Kemmel straight at 200mph would have been the stuff of nightmares!
On my return, it was back to Daddy duties and the Saturday morning swimming lesson - so threw the baby seat in one more time for a quick blast through the countryside to see if I'd learned to love the handling yet. (I hadn't).
I did win at Dad though in the swimming carpark.
45mins later, the winningest Dad was suddenly the panickiest Dad.
The car was stuck in the "wet" driving mode, fortunate as it was now bouncing it down to compound my misery. But it did drive, with no nasty noises or sensations.
We were about 30mins from home, and had a lunch date at a local tearoom so we limped it there where I could get onto the phone with Ferrari at Leeds.
I was already building up a good relationship with Rachel on the Service Desk after she was helping me confirm the various bits of service history on the car etc. She calmly explained that the car was fine to drive, BUT I should not expect any driver aids whilst that error was displayed.
The FF people on the Facebook group quickly stepped in and said it was almost certainly a false alarm caused by a bit of battery drain whilst I was away for the long weekend. I'd heard about this before on the FF, that they can throw all sorts of weird errors after a few days of down time - and generally they just go away.
We had lunch, and I tried to forget about it. I decided that if the error was still on after lunch, that I'd ring Ferrari Assistance, cancel/postpone the bodyshop and just get it looked at. It had a new PTU earlier in the year at a Ferrari dealer, had Powertrain warranty till November - so I wasn't really worried. In fact, I was actually quite positive because maybe if there was a PTU issue this could explain the handling flaws.
As it happened, the error cleared - and it drove home fine in all modes, and has done since. Not a bing or a bong, no error codes. So I think the battery theory is sound.
Plan is to still get it checked out at Ferrari very soon, but it's been a few weeks since then - and no sign of problem. Will add a trickle charger to the shopping list.
Aside from that little drama, I took the car out for a coffee evening at the Motorist where it was due to be painted very soon.
Secretly I'd bought the FF as a backup car for Spa, all year I'd been panicking about the Lotus breaking at the most inopportune moment leaving me stranded for the headliner in my trackday calendar, so when I had all of my saved searches setup for FFs, 911s and Giulia QFs there was always one eye on getting something that could cruise around a GP circuit for a few hours too.
As it happens, it's a bloody good job the Lotus didn't break - because sending this V12 deathtrap down the Kemmel straight at 200mph would have been the stuff of nightmares!
On my return, it was back to Daddy duties and the Saturday morning swimming lesson - so threw the baby seat in one more time for a quick blast through the countryside to see if I'd learned to love the handling yet. (I hadn't).
I did win at Dad though in the swimming carpark.
45mins later, the winningest Dad was suddenly the panickiest Dad.
The car was stuck in the "wet" driving mode, fortunate as it was now bouncing it down to compound my misery. But it did drive, with no nasty noises or sensations.
We were about 30mins from home, and had a lunch date at a local tearoom so we limped it there where I could get onto the phone with Ferrari at Leeds.
I was already building up a good relationship with Rachel on the Service Desk after she was helping me confirm the various bits of service history on the car etc. She calmly explained that the car was fine to drive, BUT I should not expect any driver aids whilst that error was displayed.
The FF people on the Facebook group quickly stepped in and said it was almost certainly a false alarm caused by a bit of battery drain whilst I was away for the long weekend. I'd heard about this before on the FF, that they can throw all sorts of weird errors after a few days of down time - and generally they just go away.
We had lunch, and I tried to forget about it. I decided that if the error was still on after lunch, that I'd ring Ferrari Assistance, cancel/postpone the bodyshop and just get it looked at. It had a new PTU earlier in the year at a Ferrari dealer, had Powertrain warranty till November - so I wasn't really worried. In fact, I was actually quite positive because maybe if there was a PTU issue this could explain the handling flaws.
As it happened, the error cleared - and it drove home fine in all modes, and has done since. Not a bing or a bong, no error codes. So I think the battery theory is sound.
Plan is to still get it checked out at Ferrari very soon, but it's been a few weeks since then - and no sign of problem. Will add a trickle charger to the shopping list.
Aside from that little drama, I took the car out for a coffee evening at the Motorist where it was due to be painted very soon.
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