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C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Sounds like a fun project, but I'd absolutely recommend against Greenstuff even for just 'spirited' road driving.

My old R53 (similar weight, slightly more power) cooked a set in a morning on a run around Mid Wales. The first I knew was when I nearly rear-ended my friend's FTO when pulling up to a junction. What makes it even worse is that the specialist I used had fitted them when I'd asked for Yellowstuff.

I would recommend sending them back and spending the extra few quid on the DS2500s, which is what I replaced my Greenstuff with. For me there's no better pad for giving a kicking on the road and still having good manners from cold, and they even work on track in short stints on lighter cars. I'd also suggest swapping out the brake fluid for ATE Typ200. It's a cheap job, and will give you a bit of additional fade resistance.

105.4

4,097 posts

72 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Another +1 for getting rid of the Greenstuffs.

They just don’t stand up to even a mild pasting IMO.

Limited100

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1,352 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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C70R said:
Sounds like a fun project, but I'd absolutely recommend against Greenstuff even for just 'spirited' road driving.

My old R53 (similar weight, slightly more power) cooked a set in a morning on a run around Mid Wales. The first I knew was when I nearly rear-ended my friend's FTO when pulling up to a junction. What makes it even worse is that the specialist I used had fitted them when I'd asked for Yellowstuff.

I would recommend sending them back and spending the extra few quid on the DS2500s, which is what I replaced my Greenstuff with. For me there's no better pad for giving a kicking on the road and still having good manners from cold, and they even work on track in short stints on lighter cars. I'd also suggest swapping out the brake fluid for ATE Typ200. It's a cheap job, and will give you a bit of additional fade resistance.
Ah ok, will give Greenstuff a try and once done will try DS2500s next. I was recommended Greenstuff by Spoox Motorsport so will give them the benefit of the doubt, also the brakes have pretty much zero power right now.

Oil temp settles at 90°C and water temp seems to settle between 90°C and 105°C. I take it this is normal.

105.4

4,097 posts

72 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Limited100 said:
Ah ok, will give Greenstuff a try and once done will try DS2500s next. I was recommended Greenstuff by Spoox Motorsport so will give them the benefit of the doubt, also the brakes have pretty much zero power right now.

Oil temp settles at 90°C and water temp seems to settle between 90°C and 105°C. I take it this is normal.
Your oil temp seems ‘ok’, but your water temp seems a tad high to me from what I can remember from my last 309 Goodwood.

Is the rad in good nick? It might be worth reverse flushing it, changing the temp sender and the thermostat, just to be on the safe side.

Limited100

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1,352 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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105.4 said:
Your oil temp seems ‘ok’, but your water temp seems a tad high to me from what I can remember from my last 309 Goodwood.

Is the rad in good nick? It might be worth reverse flushing it, changing the temp sender and the thermostat, just to be on the safe side.
I thought so too. It seems ok but will reverse flush it, thanks. Also new temp sensor and thermostat are on the way.

Terminator X

15,098 posts

205 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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I owned one in the same colour about 20 years ago. Awesome car imho.

Edit - how you getting on with pin code startup sequence?!

TX.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Limited100 said:
C70R said:
Sounds like a fun project, but I'd absolutely recommend against Greenstuff even for just 'spirited' road driving.

My old R53 (similar weight, slightly more power) cooked a set in a morning on a run around Mid Wales. The first I knew was when I nearly rear-ended my friend's FTO when pulling up to a junction. What makes it even worse is that the specialist I used had fitted them when I'd asked for Yellowstuff.

I would recommend sending them back and spending the extra few quid on the DS2500s, which is what I replaced my Greenstuff with. For me there's no better pad for giving a kicking on the road and still having good manners from cold, and they even work on track in short stints on lighter cars. I'd also suggest swapping out the brake fluid for ATE Typ200. It's a cheap job, and will give you a bit of additional fade resistance.
Ah ok, will give Greenstuff a try and once done will try DS2500s next. I was recommended Greenstuff by Spoox Motorsport so will give them the benefit of the doubt, also the brakes have pretty much zero power right now.
This is going to be one of those unfortunate 'buy cheap, buy twice' moments I suspect. Just be very mindful of how hard you push them on the road, and prepare yourself for braking performance to disappear at a moment's notice.

Limited100

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1,352 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Terminator X said:
I owned one in the same colour about 20 years ago. Awesome car imho.

Edit - how you getting on with pin code startup sequence?!

TX.
Not sure if that's been disengaged as nothing is needed. I remember they have some weird immobiliser things in them.

Terminator X

15,098 posts

205 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Limited100 said:
Terminator X said:
I owned one in the same colour about 20 years ago. Awesome car imho.

Edit - how you getting on with pin code startup sequence?!

TX.
Not sure if that's been disengaged as nothing is needed. I remember they have some weird immobiliser things in them.
Ah ok, mine had this:



TX.

BricktopST205

926 posts

135 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Terminator X said:
Ah ok, mine had this:



TX.
Mine had this too. The code from the previous owner was 6969.........

Mine was 1.6 XS which was basically red tiger sports seats with GTi-6/S16 bodykit.

It looked great but the 90BHP 1.6 8v had nothing.

Regardless it was my first car and felt like a rocket ship.

C5_Steve

3,099 posts

104 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Following with interest, you've picked that up at a decent price to allow you to put it back as it should be.

Great colour and base car to start with!

integraf40

39 posts

64 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Limited100 said:
Ah ok, will give Greenstuff a try and once done will try DS2500s next. I was recommended Greenstuff by Spoox Motorsport so will give them the benefit of the doubt, also the brakes have pretty much zero power right now.

Oil temp settles at 90°C and water temp seems to settle between 90°C and 105°C. I take it this is normal.
It's normal when in traffic or moving slowly, a low speed fan will come on at 97 degrees and the high speed fan will come on at 107 degrees. Usually the low speed one is enough to keep on top of it. If the fans don't come on disconnect the brown coolant plug on the thermostat housing and the high speed will run all the time. Had this issue and replaces the brown plug, and problem solved. Have a 98 blaze myself

ciaranthemurph

278 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Lovely, I had a Nile Blue Ph2 one back in the day, was a fantastic car and I won't say no to owning another.

I wasn't a fan of the Blaze yellow in the day, but at least you are clear of having the Mustang cloth inside.

Limited100

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1,352 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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HPI clear smokin - not stolen, scrapped, not a write-off, no outstanding finance.


Limited100

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1,352 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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integraf40 said:
It's normal when in traffic or moving slowly, a low speed fan will come on at 97 degrees and the high speed fan will come on at 107 degrees. Usually the low speed one is enough to keep on top of it. If the fans don't come on disconnect the brown coolant plug on the thermostat housing and the high speed will run all the time. Had this issue and replaces the brown plug, and problem solved. Have a 98 blaze myself
Will bear in mind, thanks.

Limited100

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1,352 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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ciaranthemurph said:
Lovely, I had a Nile Blue Ph2 one back in the day, was a fantastic car and I won't say no to owning another.

I wasn't a fan of the Blaze yellow in the day, but at least you are clear of having the Mustang cloth inside.
Blaze yellow is a very marmite colour for sure. Yeh I much prefer this interior style to the jazzier interior option.

Limited100

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1,352 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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C5_Steve said:
Following with interest, you've picked that up at a decent price to allow you to put it back as it should be.

Great colour and base car to start with!
Thanks!

Yeh I'm thinking..

Car £2200
Front brake pads £55
New tyres £200
Exhaust cat £130
Exterior trim £100
Stock front springs £110
New thermostat and sensor £24

£2819

Probably get £3k to £3.5k for it in a year or two if I sort out all the niggles. Cheap motoring.

donaircooleone

428 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Limited100 said:
Oil temp settles at 90°C and water temp seems to settle between 90°C and 105°C. I take it this is normal.
Oil at 90 is pretty standard, just you wait till it gets colder and notice how long it can take to get warm! Mind you mine lives an easy life with a dual carriageway commute.

Water on mine has only ever sat just below 80°C when cruising and will creep up to 105°C when stuck in traffic (fans manage nicely). When the AC was working it would never go above 80°C indicated.

Great cars, mine is on 208k now and just back from a French road trip.

Limited100

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1,352 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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donaircooleone said:
Oil at 90 is pretty standard, just you wait till it gets colder and notice how long it can take to get warm! Mind you mine lives an easy life with a dual carriageway commute.

Water on mine has only ever sat just below 80°C when cruising and will creep up to 105°C when stuck in traffic (fans manage nicely). When the AC was working it would never go above 80°C indicated.

Great cars, mine is on 208k now and just back from a French road trip.
Sounds like a great road trip. They're so comfy too.

How often have you had the cambelt done? Has the head been rebuilt in that mileage?

donaircooleone

428 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Limited100 said:
Sounds like a great road trip. They're so comfy too.

How often have you had the cambelt done? Has the head been rebuilt in that mileage?
Cam belt is done every 36k miles or 3 years, usually hitting the age limit with the commute being less regular now. It did snap a belt with the previous owner (who owned it for nearly 10 years) when it got to 50k IIRC and from memory it went to a reputable garage who removed the head and replaced a fair chunk of bits along with the headgasket etc. It doesn't sound like a 'tapper' to me so I'd say its probably doing well!

It has been a little needy in the last few years with a rear axle and clutch but otherwise just works and tends to return 38-40MPG happily.

Just a little crust to sort out now frown