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CAR PORN ALERT !!!!!! Our trackday kit car.

CAR PORN ALERT !!!!!! Our trackday kit car.

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spyder dryver

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1,031 posts

129 months

Tuesday 26th February 2008
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Here are a few pics of our Stuart Taylor Phoenix trackday car,presently under construction.Engine is a Fireblade 929. Loads of one off parts, made by ourselves. Alloy engine cradle, carbon tunnel, billet rack mounts and column mounts,pedals, all our own work.
In the pipeline...
titanium manifold, titanium blade type adjustable anti-roll bar ..
Can't wait to drive it!!
Geoff and Eldon. ,
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Dr G

12,492 posts

155 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Oh now that looks like a weapon cool

flattotheboards

6,663 posts

119 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Thats is an absolute machine! Very nice!

dazdcfc

23 posts

115 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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hi chaps cars looking good havnt seen you in a while hows tricks.daz

spyder dryver

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1,031 posts

129 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Hi daz! We're very busy as you can see. You're welcome to come and see the car any time. You may be able to help us source some bits of carbon sheet we need.
We are usually in the garage most weekends.
Still loads to do. Eldon is making the fuel tank, header tank, breather tank etc. I'm busy on anti roll bar design and install. And making a complete loom from scratch.
Do you know anywhere local for limited slip diff work?
Geoff.
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dazdcfc

23 posts

115 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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ill have a word with my mate barney about the diff and mick for the carbon send me a contact number and ill let you know.daz

dugt

1,624 posts

120 months

Friday 29th February 2008
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spyder dryver said:
won't the pedals feel weird as they will be in different arks?

not sure if any one else will understand that but it makes sence to me

nice car

doug

spyder dryver

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1,031 posts

129 months

Saturday 1st March 2008
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dugt said:
....won't the pedals feel weird as they will be in different arks?...
Far from it Doug. This arrangement is often seen in race cars. My road going kit car has a similar arrangement. I find it perfectly OK, especially for heel and toeing.
Geoff.

dumbfunk

1,726 posts

197 months

Saturday 1st March 2008
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My BMW has top hinged brake and clutch with a floor mounted throttle and took just 20 yards to adapt to.

sniff petrol

13,049 posts

125 months

Sunday 2nd March 2008
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dumbfunk said:
My BMW has top hinged brake and clutch with a floor mounted throttle and took just 20 yards to adapt to.
But this is the other way around...

dumbfunk

1,726 posts

197 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Yeah, I realise that but I would imagine the principal to be the same.

MJO

293 posts

106 months

Friday 7th March 2008
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Very nice, love the trick parts.

Not trying to start an argument here, but, do you think the Fireblade motor is powerful enough?

spyder dryver

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1,031 posts

129 months

Saturday 8th March 2008
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MJO said:
Very nice, love the trick parts.

Not trying to start an argument here, but, do you think the Fireblade motor is powerful enough?
MJO, do yourself a favour and hitch a ride in a "bike engined car", or BEC as they are referred to.
I didn't believe the performance either, given as you rightly point out, the apparent lack of outright power.
The 929 Blade engine only makes around 140hp or so, but it is the way it is delivered that makes the difference I think.
Bike engines have little or no flywheel type inertia to overcome, so they are very free revving. This, in combination with close gear ratios and overall gearing that runs out at 130mph or so, gives stunning performance. Low vehicle weight of 450kgs also helps. (Although this is mitigated somewhat when two "less than svelte" PHers climb aboard)
60mph is reached in around 4 seconds, 100mph in less than 10. I haven't measured these myself, I am quoting other sources, but these figures are typical. Bigger engined BECs are quicker still.
Acceleration through the gears from 50 to 130 is incredible.
Get yourself to a trackday and blag a ride. You'll be stunned!
Geoff.

spyder dryver

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129 months

Sunday 9th March 2008
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This weekend we are mostly been making...a Titanium exhaust manifold, with Eldon on duty on the TIG set.
Not finished yet but well on the way. Not the easiest of materials to work with worth the effort. Making a collector is going to be fun as Titanium doesn't like being bent. Eldon says its a piece of p155 to weld though.



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Edited by spyder dryver on Friday 12th February 19:44

selnic

352 posts

180 months

Sunday 9th March 2008
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Super manifolds you've got there, the car looks like it will be quite some weapon. When you say Eldon is doing the welding, would that be the great Eldon Sellars from Heanor, former bike racer and specialist welder extraordinaire???

spyder dryver

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129 months

Monday 10th March 2008
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selnic said:
..... would that be the great Eldon Sellars from Heanor, former bike crasher and pigeon-ste welder ordinaire???
Would that be his cousin and ex mini clubman owner?
Here is Eldon in action. And I mean inaction!

selnic

352 posts

180 months

Monday 10th March 2008
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That il be the one!!! biglaugh

MJO

293 posts

106 months

Monday 10th March 2008
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spyder dryver said:
MJO said:
Very nice, love the trick parts.

Not trying to start an argument here, but, do you think the Fireblade motor is powerful enough?
MJO, do yourself a favour and hitch a ride in a "bike engined car", or BEC as they are referred to.
I didn't believe the performance either, given as you rightly point out, the apparent lack of outright power.
The 929 Blade engine only makes around 140hp or so, but it is the way it is delivered that makes the difference I think.
Bike engines have little or no flywheel type inertia to overcome, so they are very free revving. This, in combination with close gear ratios and overall gearing that runs out at 130mph or so, gives stunning performance. Low vehicle weight of 450kgs also helps. (Although this is mitigated somewhat when two "less than svelte" PHers climb aboard)
60mph is reached in around 4 seconds, 100mph in less than 10. I haven't measured these myself, I am quoting other sources, but these figures are typical. Bigger engined BECs are quicker still.
Acceleration through the gears from 50 to 130 is incredible.
Get yourself to a trackday and blag a ride. You'll be stunned!
Geoff.
I have a ZX12R powered MNR Vortx, has been Hole Shot prepared and produces 145bhp at the wheels, the car weighs roughly 420kg. So I'm well and truely a BEC convert. Point I was making is that you soon get used to the power you have available and soon crave more. I bought my car fully built so fitting a more powerful engine would mean quite a lot of work, if I was in your position I'd definately consider something with more capacity.

Feel free to tell me to shut up, these are just my thoughts.

spyder dryver

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1,031 posts

129 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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MJO said:
....... if I was in your position I'd definately consider something with more capacity.

Feel free to tell me to shut up, these are just my thoughts.
I wouldn't dream of telling you to shut up. Your point is a fair one. The 929 engine came along at the right price, especially when compared (price wise) to the zx12 or busa units.
IF we do get used to it to the point of boredom I have a plan which involves a small turbo, a medium sized intercooler and yet more titanium. This is, hopefully, far into the future.
The 929 is cheaply replaceable too.
And talking of titanium, the system is virtually finished.
Second pic shows the slash cut tailpipe poking through our (very) second hand bodywork.( Tim Gray's old bodywork from his Championship winning Phoenix, hence the no.1 )
Geoff.



Edited by spyder dryver on Friday 12th February 19:47

jiber

74 posts

125 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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don't make the tornado(25%???) in your fuel tank if you want keep your engine....biggrin

sorry for my english....