GOLD Rolls Royce Phantom
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Gulzar, It's well known in the field of neuroscience that different parts of the brain take care of different functionality. Well done for communicating this principle to the wider public. The highly developed stocktrader relevant part of your brain is obviously working well, congratulations on that. As your clients rely on you for critical decisions with reguards to their portfolios, I think you should rely on others for advice in the area of asthetics, after all the whole point of having something that looks nice is that it looks nice. No offence meant ol' chap but your cars are suffering and I can't abide such cruelty and apparent disregard for the talents of top designers and engineers. The cars are the most important thing here, if they were pets the RSPCA would take them off you.
leffehoegaarden said:
Gulzar, It's well known in the field of neuroscience that different parts of the brain take care of different functionality. Well done for communicating this principle to the wider public. The highly developed stocktrader relevant part of your brain is obviously working well, congratulations on that. As your clients rely on you for critical decisions with reguards to their portfolios, I think you should rely on others for advice in the area of asthetics, after all the whole point of having something that looks nice is that it looks nice. No offence meant ol' chap but your cars are suffering and I can't abide such cruelty and apparent disregard for the talents of top designers and engineers. The cars are the most important thing here, if they were pets the RSPCA would take them off you.
PFFT! Who doesnt want a gold plated cat and a dog with crystals on it?Go look at the horrors in the PH classifieds and the badly modded cars thread and tell me you still think Gulzar has bad taste.
DannyScene said:
PFFT! Who doesnt want a gold plated cat and a dog with crystals on it?
Go look at the horrors in the PH classifieds and the badly modded cars thread and tell me you still think Gulzar has bad taste.
Sorry, but IMHO, there is little difference between Gulzars cars and the less expensive but similarly styled and poorly implemented cars in the badly modified cars thread.Go look at the horrors in the PH classifieds and the badly modded cars thread and tell me you still think Gulzar has bad taste.
Had the cars been skilfully modified, as some cars have been, then there would be some mitigation as it would simply have been his taste being questioned. However covering a car in spray foam, GRP and stick backed plastic, or in the case of this Goodwood Royce, just covering it in sticky backed plastic and plating a few parts, does not make any car, irrespective of its value “well modified”
AndrewW-G said:
Sorry, but IMHO, there is little difference between Gulzars cars and the less expensive but similarly styled and poorly implemented cars in the badly modified cars thread.
Had the cars been skilfully modified, as some cars have been, then there would be some mitigation as it would simply have been his taste being questioned. However covering a car in spray foam, GRP and stick backed plastic, or in the case of this Goodwood Royce, just covering it in sticky backed plastic and plating a few parts, does not make any car, irrespective of its value “well modified”
Ahh but I never said Gulxars was well modified I just said I dont think he has awful taste compared to the style and vision of some of the cars in said threadsHad the cars been skilfully modified, as some cars have been, then there would be some mitigation as it would simply have been his taste being questioned. However covering a car in spray foam, GRP and stick backed plastic, or in the case of this Goodwood Royce, just covering it in sticky backed plastic and plating a few parts, does not make any car, irrespective of its value “well modified”
leffehoegaarden said:
Bad taste is bad tast whether you spend a million on a $ shaped swimming pool or a tenner on a playboy numberplate. Proficiency in the execution of bad tast is no mitigation.
Is the ability to actually spell taste mitigation? As someone said much more eloquently than I could in the other thread about Gulzar's cars;"If you denounce someone as having no class or taste, chances are you have none either."
_dobbo_ said:
leffehoegaarden said:
Bad taste is bad tast whether you spend a million on a $ shaped swimming pool or a tenner on a playboy numberplate. Proficiency in the execution of bad tast is no mitigation.
"If you denounce someone as having no class or taste, chances are you have none either."
t anyway.Some like what he has done, some don't. You obviously don't - I don't particularly - but he can do what he likes with his cash and I admire anyone who does, and can afford to.
ManBetterKnow said:
leffehoegaarden said:
Bad taste is bad tast whether you spend a million on a $ shaped swimming pool or a tenner on a playboy numberplate. Proficiency in the execution of bad tast is no mitigation.
Ignorant,narrow minded self righteous idiot. Greg_D said:
ManBetterKnow said:
leffehoegaarden said:
Bad taste is bad tast whether you spend a million on a $ shaped swimming pool or a tenner on a playboy numberplate. Proficiency in the execution of bad tast is no mitigation.
Ignorant,narrow minded self righteous idiot. Taste is subjective but the concept has a refined and pains taking set of arbiters, usually guided (but not solely) by the market, by industry standards of excellence and by criticism. If you go to the Oscar’s dressed as a tramp you can be perfectly justified in holding the opinion that you look the bee’s knees. You can never be proved wrong in that opinion but you will be almost universally condemned for having bad taste, this counts. There is a price to pay for displaying what the majority believe to be bad taste. Gulzar is paying that price in the criticism he has received in this thread.
Don't confuse bad taste with stepping outside the boundaries of conformity, one can commit offences to the eye or fill an onlooker with joy when going beyond the norm. Many new and revolutionary ideas and concepts within the field of design and engineering have been condemned in the past only to be later adopted as industry standards. But to be adopted and accepted, conformity must catch up. Maybe one day I will wake up in a world where having eight chrome exhaust pipes protruding from underneath a gold striped bumper that displays a playboy number plate will be cooler than ice, but I doubt it. Maybe there are men who find Kelly Brook physically repulsive; I’ve yet to encounter one.
Those who recognise that they are out of step will do well to look at the rest.
Don't confuse bad taste with stepping outside the boundaries of conformity, one can commit offences to the eye or fill an onlooker with joy when going beyond the norm. Many new and revolutionary ideas and concepts within the field of design and engineering have been condemned in the past only to be later adopted as industry standards. But to be adopted and accepted, conformity must catch up. Maybe one day I will wake up in a world where having eight chrome exhaust pipes protruding from underneath a gold striped bumper that displays a playboy number plate will be cooler than ice, but I doubt it. Maybe there are men who find Kelly Brook physically repulsive; I’ve yet to encounter one.
Those who recognise that they are out of step will do well to look at the rest.
leffehoegaarden said:
Taste is subjective but the concept has a refined and pains taking set of arbiters, usually guided (but not solely) by the market, by industry standards of excellence and by criticism. If you go to the Oscar’s dressed as a tramp you can be perfectly justified in holding the opinion that you look the bee’s knees. You can never be proved wrong in that opinion but you will be almost universally condemned for having bad taste, this counts. There is a price to pay for displaying what the majority believe to be bad taste. Gulzar is paying that price in the criticism he has received in this thread.
Don't confuse bad taste with stepping outside the boundaries of conformity, one can commit offences to the eye or fill an onlooker with joy when going beyond the norm. Many new and revolutionary ideas and concepts within the field of design and engineering have been condemned in the past only to be later adopted as industry standards. But to be adopted and accepted, conformity must catch up. Maybe one day I will wake up in a world where having eight chrome exhaust pipes protruding from underneath a gold striped bumper that displays a playboy number plate will be cooler than ice, but I doubt it. Maybe there are men who find Kelly Brook physically repulsive; I’ve yet to encounter one.
Those who recognise that they are out of step will do well to look at the rest.
That'll be fashion, not tasteDon't confuse bad taste with stepping outside the boundaries of conformity, one can commit offences to the eye or fill an onlooker with joy when going beyond the norm. Many new and revolutionary ideas and concepts within the field of design and engineering have been condemned in the past only to be later adopted as industry standards. But to be adopted and accepted, conformity must catch up. Maybe one day I will wake up in a world where having eight chrome exhaust pipes protruding from underneath a gold striped bumper that displays a playboy number plate will be cooler than ice, but I doubt it. Maybe there are men who find Kelly Brook physically repulsive; I’ve yet to encounter one.
Those who recognise that they are out of step will do well to look at the rest.
leffehoegaarden said:
mattyn1 said:
Are you saying good taste is what other people regard as good taste? I say bks to what others think. My good taste is what I like, not what others may or may not.
Like the man at the Oscar's?ks to what others think. My good taste is what I like, not what others may or may not.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2090547/Mo...
'good' by definition is a populist opinion.
keeping it in a car context, Some people think that the trabant is 'good'. popular opinion would say that it is a papier mache deathtrap with woeful emissions and terrible handling and the engine out of a sewing machine.
a person's taste is just that, theirs, and good luck to them with that, but it is the general population's perspective as to whether it is good taste.
some people are just contrary for the sake of it, Gulzar is one of those people, of that there is no doubt, but his cars, whilst individual, do not display good taste,
keeping it in a car context, Some people think that the trabant is 'good'. popular opinion would say that it is a papier mache deathtrap with woeful emissions and terrible handling and the engine out of a sewing machine.
a person's taste is just that, theirs, and good luck to them with that, but it is the general population's perspective as to whether it is good taste.
some people are just contrary for the sake of it, Gulzar is one of those people, of that there is no doubt, but his cars, whilst individual, do not display good taste,
Would you rather be seen driving down London's boheimian Brick Lane in a golden Rolls Royce with its ostentacious baggage or a Trabant with its limited but obvious charm?
Or on the Cote d'Azur? Which would you prefer? As I said, taste is relative and subject to change according to peer pressure. But to my mind, golden Rollers and blinged out Range Rovers are not quite der rigueur on these islands. Maybe along the front at Dubai it'll be the puppys privates but we're here, not there.
Or on the Cote d'Azur? Which would you prefer? As I said, taste is relative and subject to change according to peer pressure. But to my mind, golden Rollers and blinged out Range Rovers are not quite der rigueur on these islands. Maybe along the front at Dubai it'll be the puppys privates but we're here, not there.
Greg_D said:
I'm not sure why you come to that conclusion. I happen to think that his point (whether you apply it to gulzar or as a general principal) is very valid.
I find it so terribly crass when certain sorts don't know how to spell. Makes one's skin crawl. I mean it's just the general principle of it, stinks of bad taste and a lack of class. Frankly if you're going to come over all superior and self righteous, one simply has to at least write legibly. I blame the red tops.Whether you like it not is immaterial- he likes it and it's his car. Gulzar accepts that it's not to everyone's taste, doesn't get annoyed when people say they don't like it, stays civil and keeps a sense of humour. It's this attitude that means he's given some slack.
His cars are not to my taste but that doesn't mean I feel the need to dislike him. Quite the opposite in fact.
His cars are not to my taste but that doesn't mean I feel the need to dislike him. Quite the opposite in fact.
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