Twin Plenum Vitesse restoration

Twin Plenum Vitesse restoration

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Duke Thrust

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Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Will do a proper update soon, in short I've managed to get hold of one of the seven Rovercraft twin turbo 4.5 engines. A whole load of bespoke parts including inlet and exhaust manifolds, Motec ECU, JE pistons & rods and a whole load of other nice bits.

Will have to use a TVR spec Tremec T5 and modified Costworth tail shaft, custom prop to the Quaife LSD.




Duke Thrust

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Friday 24th October 2014
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Yamahadivvyrider said:
Stunning looking car.can that engine be supercharged?
Instead of turbo charging? Yes, it's got large combustion chambers and a CR of 8.5:1

It'd not be a Rovercraft twin turbo though, so not as cool/rare.

Incidentally, the Rovercraft TT is not to be confused with the somewhat agricultural Janspeed draw-through SU carb setup, very different.

The nice thing about this (for me at least) is that it's one of the seven TT Rovercraft engines back into an original Rovercraft car.

Duke Thrust

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Thursday 6th November 2014
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Tremec T5 and Cosworth tail-shaft off to Competition Transmissions to have the housing machined to accept the larger bearing and output shafts.





Intercooler and pipework mocked up (I'll give the intercooler a clean and a coat of the special automotive radiator paint)



Not much space and I still need to fit the A/C condenser in:


Duke Thrust

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Thursday 6th November 2014
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Look what's arrived back!


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Minor bit of body work to get the intercooler to fit in front of the A/C condenser:



Turbo jackets and HT leads on:



Helix paddle clutch on:



Gearbox and bell housing on:


Duke Thrust

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Oil cooler (essential with the turbo's making so much heat)



New lines fitted:



Engine in biggrin



Not masses of space, but it does fit:



Still loads to do, all the intercooler and inlet pipework, I need to fabricate a gearbox mount, install the loom (which I've re-made already), pressure test the fuel lines and probably lots more.

Duke Thrust

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Thursday 6th November 2014
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Pulleys are just for alignment at the moment, will clean and paint.

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Thursday 20th November 2014
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ManOpener said:
Can you tell us a bit more about the Rovercraft twin turbo motors? I've had a bit of a search around but can't find much on the interwebs about them.
They're very rare and hence there's not much about them out there. From what I've managed to research there were up to 7 engines made, production was very short as Simon Law (one of the two brothers that owned Rovercraft) was killed at the Brighton Speed Trials in a single seater powered by one of the engines.

One engine made it into a TR7, one into a GTD40 and one into an SD1, the others I'm not so sure about.

They used a completely bespoke twin plenum intake as well as exhaust manifolds which must have cost a fortune to cast. Rovercraft forged 4.5 crank, low compression forged JE pistons & rods, steel rockers, big injectors, MoTeC ecu, custom grind cam, custom intercooler etc etc.

Depending on boost they will produce from a very lazy 400 bhp to a frantic 700 bhp.

I've seen a couple of twin-turbo ebay jobs advertised as the Rovercraft system, but they've turned out to be home-brew specials, impressive nonetheless.

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Monday 1st December 2014
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I wrapped the down-pipes (forgot to take a picture of the near-side one)



Two of the brake lines and the clutch hose will run very close to the OS turbo, hence wrapping the downpipes but for belt and braces a friend has sorted me out with these very hi-spec sleeves:


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Monday 1st December 2014
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Filled the gearbox with oil
Fitted and bled the clutch hydraulics
Connect up, prime and pressurise the oil system including the oil cooler:


Duke Thrust

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Monday 1st December 2014
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Downpipes and exhaust fitted:


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Monday 1st December 2014
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I made up the hybrid SD1/Cosworth gear leaver last night, as usual I forgot to take enough pictures. These bits used to be joined together until I cut them in half:





That was the SD1 stick.

Welded to the Cosworth base:



And then re-fitted along with all the trim:



It's offset to match the short-shift on the tail, the centre line of the stick/knob lines up perfectly to match that of the box.

I'm really pleased as it looks absolutely standard and not messed about with. All the effort with the tail housing on the big bearing T5 was so that I could get the gearstick to come up in the same place as the original.

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Monday 1st December 2014
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Got the heater pipes on (two pipes there, not the best photo):



Over the top, via the A/C valve and to the water pump:



Then the fuel feed and return (which I then ran the pump for a few mins to pressure test):



Last thing for that session, the ECU loom:


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Monday 1st December 2014
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Monday 1st December 2014
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More pics:

Modified under-tray to fit the intercooler:

Like this at first:



Then this:



Intercooler in:



A/C Condenser:



Then radiator:



Plenum top:



All done (to a point):





So, things left to do, I still have to get the A/C compressor in which won't be an issue, plenty of space but I will probably need to have some custom hoses made up to clear the air pipes.

But, more immediate problem: The windscreen washer tank used to sit on the suspension turret, top middle-ish:



I don't think that tank will fit anywhere under the bonnet now, I'd like to not move it to the boot as it'd be a massive pain. Any suggestion for either a small tank from another car and where I could put it?

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Monday 1st December 2014
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Yes, that might do nicely, thanks.


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Friday 5th December 2014
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The original throttle cable was a touch short so rather than putting a big kink into it I cable-tied it to the intake temporarily. I've now made up a new one using the ends of the old one and a couple of lengths of Shimano inner and outer:

Old:



New:




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Tuesday 9th December 2014
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Bag tank for the washer arrived, decided the best place was on the OSF wing under the intake pipes. There's now a redundant bracket where the resistor pack for the old injection system was mounted (and power steering fluid tank on series one cars).



Tack welded the bag tank bracket to this, easy to remove should I ever want to move it and gave it a quick lick of paint over the weld:



Bag in and filled. I had to move the fluid pipe and the wiring from the other side, but it's all hidden now so actually looks a little neater than standard:




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Friday 1st May 2015
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dib851 said:
I was just having a little look about, reminiscing a little I guess, and I cam across this post. The weird thing is I used to work at Rovercraft (during the Tony Marsh / Phil Eaves twin turbo era) and I don't remember ever seeing these rocker covers with 'Rovercraft' cast into them??
They're quite a bit taller than standard covers, so I assume they're for high lift/solid lifters.

I don't suppose you have any details or brochures from back in the day? (I'm interested on any Rovercraft TT info you have)

Thanks!

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Thursday 15th October 2015
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I though it was about time I updated this thread with my progress:

As part of fitting the new Omex 710 ECU I have to fit a trigger wheel so that the ECU can determine the current degree of rotation of the engine. This is accomplished by a 36-1 trigger wheel, each notch representing 10 degrees of a complete rotation.

Standard ones are pretty thick at around 6mm, I've fitted one at 2.5mm which keeps the power steering belt in alignment as it's sandwiched in the front pulley. (If anything it's improved the alignment slightly)

I also had to make a bracket to hold a VR sensor <0.5mm away from the wheel:







New air temp sensor fitted into the intercooler:



I've made the new ECU loom (from scratch):