My Honda Accord Type R Big Turbo
Discussion
AdamBomb said:
I have never (ever) seen a turbo setup with both internal AND external gates - and I have studied a lot of turbo setups (a serious obsession of mine for a while now, maybe 10 years).
Why not just use a larger external gate? Manifold won't take it? How are you going to control the actuators? Sequentialy? What are you going to use to do that?
Did your guy build the block / head up?
Good luck with it!
Manifold is cast so alot stronger than all these fancy manifolds with plenty of welds. I have no idea, as im not mapping it, nor that technicailly minded when it comes to turbo's ive pretty much always been N/A, but he said it will run both internal and external wastgates. Thor are taking on the mapping of the AEM EMS. Why not just use a larger external gate? Manifold won't take it? How are you going to control the actuators? Sequentialy? What are you going to use to do that?
Did your guy build the block / head up?
Good luck with it!
Yeah my tuner really composed the spec and build it up. He built a Civc Type R EK9 1.8 VTEC Turbo and that ran 500whp @ 1.5bar pushed to 9850rpm. That is nuts.
10 years is a series obsession Ad, i think my hair would start falling out if it was me!
stew-S160 said:
JayK12 said:
stew-S160 said:
Oi you tank top wearing fairy. didn't realise it was an ATR you was doing all this work on. looks bloody good though.
Hello Darling! I thought i told you ages ago? 
JayK12 said:
charliedaker said:
Yea i thought it was goin in a Civic?????
Oh and for the record, how G A Y
Hahaha, In a chavec? Noooo chance!Oh and for the record, how G A Y
So G A Y would be great in your terms then?
Seen it outside Amars for a while and assumed it was summat to do with Rik but clearly not.
Cant wait to see (drive) it!
charliedaker said:
JayK12 said:
charliedaker said:
Yea i thought it was goin in a Civic?????
Oh and for the record, how G A Y
Hahaha, In a chavec? Noooo chance!Oh and for the record, how G A Y
So G A Y would be great in your terms then?
Seen it outside Amars for a while and assumed it was summat to do with Rik but clearly not.
Cant wait to see (drive) it!
Picking it up tomorrow evening, then will do a few bits over the weekend, use it for a week put a good 300 miles more on it. Then Turbo time
Deffo mate, im sure you will give it a good abusing!
Well heres a pic of the car as it is currently.
Didnt do much on the weekend. Bled front brakes, Sprayed rear hubs, changed drop links, fitted Tein strut brace.
Rear sits high as ive not adjusted it yet, suspension setup will be once its mapped. Clutch is still an animal, really hard, and agressive on the up and downshifts. However it seems to be bedding in as i can get a biteing point now.
Whats left to do:
Installed Turbo parts
7th June - Blueflame to build downpipe and exhaust
10th June - mapping
14th June Suspension setup / geo
15th June Body mop, valet etc.
So thats the plan, fingers crossed we can stay on schedule.
Cheers
Jay
Didnt do much on the weekend. Bled front brakes, Sprayed rear hubs, changed drop links, fitted Tein strut brace.
Rear sits high as ive not adjusted it yet, suspension setup will be once its mapped. Clutch is still an animal, really hard, and agressive on the up and downshifts. However it seems to be bedding in as i can get a biteing point now.
Whats left to do:
Installed Turbo parts
7th June - Blueflame to build downpipe and exhaust
10th June - mapping
14th June Suspension setup / geo
15th June Body mop, valet etc.
So thats the plan, fingers crossed we can stay on schedule.
Cheers
Jay
It has a LSD as standard, but its not as agressive as the DC5. Gearbox will remain stanard for now, we dont know if its going die or how quickly. Clutch is really agressive on the up and especially downshifts, which i feel is hurting the box. Carbon Syncro's will do the trick, but will see if it strips the gears, i want to change 5th gear anyway as i might try and go for 200mph in FWD, it will only hit 184mph @ 9350rpm.
JayK12 said:
It has a LSD as standard, but its not as agressive as the DC5. Gearbox will remain stanard for now, we dont know if its going die or how quickly. Clutch is really agressive on the up and especially downshifts, which i feel is hurting the box. Carbon Syncro's will do the trick, but will see if it strips the gears, i want to change 5th gear anyway as i might try and go for 200mph in FWD, it will only hit 184mph @ 9350rpm.
I really really like this car for some reason, but that gearbox on those sharp upshifts when on boost is going to make a mess, I just hope its doesn't take anything else (you) out when (not if 
) it blows..And don't lower it too much, just make it sit right
Edited by joe_90 on Tuesday 25th May 20:43
Cheers Joe.
The clutch should stop it from destorying the syncro's on the upshift, however i have to remember to plant the clutch all the way down, its so damn heavy.
My tuner build a Civic Type R EK9 which runs over 500hp and the stock gearbox is perfect, never missed a beat.
Time will tell i guess. One way to find out, standing mile, flat out
It wont be lowered to much at the rear, i prefer the nose down look myself.
The clutch should stop it from destorying the syncro's on the upshift, however i have to remember to plant the clutch all the way down, its so damn heavy.
My tuner build a Civic Type R EK9 which runs over 500hp and the stock gearbox is perfect, never missed a beat.
Time will tell i guess. One way to find out, standing mile, flat out
It wont be lowered to much at the rear, i prefer the nose down look myself.
NOOOWWWW THEN!! Sunday i put the Turbo on, its just bolted on so the downpipe and exhaust can be made up, its rather big. Lmao. Will spin it round, might be able to close the bonnet, if not the bonnet will be slightly cut out and a slight bluge and vent.
What i long day yesterday was, dropped the car at Blueflame. After speaking with blueflame and telling them that it makes no difference to us which root the downpipe takes, along with the external waste gate piping, they are going to turn the turbo over, this would allow the bonnet to be closed, however im unsure if the Turbo will clear the alternator. But they will give it ago and see if it works.
3" Downpipe with Flange on the Turbo, Flow formed bends, they look very very nice 38mm Internal wastegate (staying on), and 38mm external wastegate will not sit directly on the manifold, ive asked blueflame to make a pipe coming of the top the of manifold, going to externalwaste gate so it sits infront of the head, and then the pipe will continue to the downpipe.
Wideband to go in the downpipe. 3" Pipe work and center silencer to be tucked up high as possible, and single exit which will come from drivers side.
Leaving them to it now, more than capable. Once they have built it, i'll get them to email me some pictures, and post them, as i then want them to take it so i can get the car back on the truck without damaging it.
Hopefully pics later this week.
Cheers
Jay
Next to a JDM STI Turbo.
What i long day yesterday was, dropped the car at Blueflame. After speaking with blueflame and telling them that it makes no difference to us which root the downpipe takes, along with the external waste gate piping, they are going to turn the turbo over, this would allow the bonnet to be closed, however im unsure if the Turbo will clear the alternator. But they will give it ago and see if it works.
3" Downpipe with Flange on the Turbo, Flow formed bends, they look very very nice
38mm Internal wastegate (staying on), and 38mm external wastegate will not sit directly on the manifold, ive asked blueflame to make a pipe coming of the top the of manifold, going to externalwaste gate so it sits infront of the head, and then the pipe will continue to the downpipe.Wideband to go in the downpipe. 3" Pipe work and center silencer to be tucked up high as possible, and single exit which will come from drivers side.
Leaving them to it now, more than capable. Once they have built it, i'll get them to email me some pictures, and post them, as i then want them to take it so i can get the car back on the truck without damaging it.
Hopefully pics later this week.
Cheers
Jay
Next to a JDM STI Turbo.
DE_GODFATHER said:
mmmmmmmmmm You did all that work by yourself did you on sunday ..... or did we have some help ..lol ... No names mentioned.
Car is coming along just fine !. Can't wait for the Boost Baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You did fCar is coming along just fine !. Can't wait for the Boost Baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
k all........lmao. Nah cheers for you assistance! Roll on Saturday morning for the next mission hey bro?!
thats absolutely insane!
Please keep it looking like it is - it looks good, but basically its a sleeper.
I just think of the "VTEC JUST KICKED IN YO!" pics. But you'd need another one below with "TURBO JUST KICKED IN ON TOP OF VTEC. SHIIIIIIIIITTTTTT!"
Whats the current estimates on the power of that engine?
Please keep it looking like it is - it looks good, but basically its a sleeper.
I just think of the "VTEC JUST KICKED IN YO!" pics. But you'd need another one below with "TURBO JUST KICKED IN ON TOP OF VTEC. SHIIIIIIIIITTTTTT!"
Whats the current estimates on the power of that engine?
clonmult said:
thats absolutely insane!
Please keep it looking like it is - it looks good, but basically its a sleeper.
I just think of the "VTEC JUST KICKED IN YO!" pics. But you'd need another one below with "TURBO JUST KICKED IN ON TOP OF VTEC. SHIIIIIIIIITTTTTT!"
Whats the current estimates on the power of that engine?
lol, thats ace comment. Please keep it looking like it is - it looks good, but basically its a sleeper.
I just think of the "VTEC JUST KICKED IN YO!" pics. But you'd need another one below with "TURBO JUST KICKED IN ON TOP OF VTEC. SHIIIIIIIIITTTTTT!"
Whats the current estimates on the power of that engine?
Engine is built for 800hp and 10,000rpm. We are going to keep well within tolerances. As its my road car. Road map will be 280/300. Then have another 2 at 400whp and 500whp. That would be 560 engine power. The goal was 500whp, even though we have built well above that spec, im ensuring we do not go power hunting, as that leads to disaster. What we get we will gladly take leaving massive margins for reliablility. Someone with a simular setup is running 780hp in the US.
Cant wait for boost and VTEC pulling me all the way to 9200rpm
Well, Blueflame emailed me a few pics this morning, and ive paid, cars on the trailer and on its way back home.
Exhaust looks really good, and ground clearances look awesome.
Turbo is staying as i originally fitted it. Waste gate pipe work looks great!
Great quality work done by the guys!
Exhaust looks really good, and ground clearances look awesome.
Turbo is staying as i originally fitted it. Waste gate pipe work looks great!
Great quality work done by the guys!
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